GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

HRBP AMA

AMA about what actually goes behind those rangolis in the HR dept and work that better compensated people in HR do.

24mo ago
QuirkyMarshmallow
QuirkyMarshmallow

Why are you called HRBP and not HR managers?

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Manager is a designation, business partner is a role.
Most companies have diluted HRBP role these days by disguising it under a line HR role.
HRBPs are supposed to be enablers and partners of business. They are expected to deal with Business Managers, Employees and Management and strike a balance in driving the organisation strategy forward.
Limited roles exist in the market where you get to work on good stuff.

FuzzySushi
FuzzySushi

As an HRBP of 3 years work ex, I stand by this. We don’t deal in administration, talent acquisition or creating engagement activities. We facilitate, create and drive strategic interventions ranging from attrition control to learning and development.

SleepyNugget
SleepyNugget
Amazon24mo

What according to you does the future of work in India look like considering the environment we all just went through?

  1. everyone thought wfh was the future. Apparently only kinda
  2. crazy salary hikes and now perhaps salary normalization
  3. crazy hiring and now crazy firing

What does the future look like

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

To be honest, nobody can predict this. In the coming future, following things are expected to happen:

  1. Hybrid models will be the norm. You won't be expected in the office everyday but don't expect permanent wfh either
  2. Gig economy has a long way to go when it comes to Indian corporate. Our legal system makes it extra more difficult to employ freelancers and dual employment is banned. Add to that, the NDAs of your company and clients.
  3. Pay is getting normalised. Gone are the days of 100% hikes. Plus with high cost, the margins are solidly down. One of the advantages India had as an outsourcing hub was the lower cost.
    I'm not saying the pay will go down but be prepared for stagnation.
  4. Firing is temporary. Companies do it mostly to boost immediate margins or when shelving projects with a very long roi. Companies spend more money after firing to hire people.
    The same isn't applicable in FAANG cases where they are looking at business strategy shift and hence firing.
SleepyNugget
SleepyNugget
Amazon24mo

Wow thanks for that amazing answer. Very insightful

CosmicDumpling
CosmicDumpling
InMobi24mo

Do issues like conflicts or harrassments come to you to deal with?

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Lots of them. Here's a partial list of what I've dealt with:

  1. Male employees harrassing women
  2. Male employees falsely implicated by women
  3. Employees getting caught up in court cases like dowry, anti-social stuff etc
  4. Employees caught with drugs in office premises
  5. Employees turning up drunk to office
  6. Employees harrassing women on MS Teams
  7. Employees committing suicides within and outside office premises
  8. Employees misbehaving during offsites or office parties
  9. Employees who joined through fake interviews through impersonation
  10. BGV failures
  11. Employees committing fraud
  12. Employees with psychological issues
CosmicDumpling
CosmicDumpling
InMobi24mo

Wow, that's a lot to be going through. Do any of these end up affecting you personally?

FloatingPanda
FloatingPanda
Amazon24mo

Any advise on how to deal with hrbp, what should be my cadence? What should I talk on?

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Largely depends on the person but if an employee were to ask me something where i can help him (apart from asking for a compensation raise), following would be some cues:

  • what's the progression for my role in this organisation
  • are the skillsets I'm working on relevant for the organisation in the short and long term
  • what is the organisation outlook in the future
  • which are the areas the organisation is planning to grow in the future
  • coaching on providing feedback to team members
  • where do i stand in the market. Am i overpaid or underpaid
  • what is expected of me to progress to the next role

Some of the questions may seem more pointed at your reporting manager but trust me, it does help when you ask them to an HRBP because he/she gets asked on these questions very frequently and this becomes a topic of discussion with the mangers

FloatingPanda
FloatingPanda
Amazon24mo

@Chanakya i feel I should be asking such questions to my skip level manager or someone with position of influence.

From my experience I feel that my trajectory within org is decided by some VP and my manager. Do hrbp hood any influence in promo/hike?

GroovyBoba
GroovyBoba

Why not give higher raises and screw the company instead of screwing your fellow colleagues?

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Better answered by the CFO.
With whatever budget is allotted, we create different scenarios of how the budget can be utilised better.
Every appraisal cycle has a theme where we try to address some issues.
Lot of simulation happens in utilising the available budget.
We create lot of presentations too for which the data needs to be very very accurate.

WigglyDonut
WigglyDonut

This has actually been happening in many companies including Big-Tech..One fine day they discover that they are stuck with overpriced, unproductive and entitled employees who are not adding real value. Then they let go thousands and the cycle continues..

SillyKoala
SillyKoala

Yo any HR Vacancies available ?

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Yes but mostly experienced roles. We just wrapped up our internship program and converting a few interns to permanent.

SillyKoala
SillyKoala

I got like 3 years of experience 2 in social media management and 1 in HR Any chances or anything you got for me? Sorry if this is ruining ur AMA vibe tho

SnoozyPanda
SnoozyPanda
VMware24mo

Do you really care about diversity? Equal pay parity amongst genders ?
I work for a big shot US MNC, and it all feels like a gimmick at grassroot levels.

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

Yes, organisations try to be diverse and inclusive. There are challenges in achieving the actuals.
Unfortunately, people confuse diversity only with the number of women in the organisation. There are more facets to it when the organisation tries to be inclusive.
Take this example, an mnc in Hyderabad would normally have a large % of Telugu speaking population, so does Tamil in Chennai. The organisation can be inclusive in sensitising the native employees not to communicate in the official meetings in the local language but when it comes to implementation, it largely depends on the team.
Tl;dr Organisation can provide an environment and policy framework but diversity and inclusion happens when employees are open to it.

Pay disparity is treated more seriously in US than in India however, an organisation would never discriminate against a woman. The benchmarks we get from industry are gender agnostic so are the compensation frameworks.
Pay disparity largely arises due to different points of salary at hire.
Again, during appraisals these are subject to manager biases though we always compare the possibility of disparity before rolling out increments.

At grassroot levels, your visibility will be limited to the team you're working on. Some men in your team might feel a woman is compensated more and will blame the manager to favouring women. Some women in your team might feel they are at a disadvantage just because she's a woman.
I'm not denying the disparity that exists in pockets but an organization level, we do not discriminate between gender and always try to maintain parity with the same bands as well as new and existing hires.

P.S. Current generation of workforce (gen z) doesn't stick for very long in the companies to see these changes happening. Ask anyone who spent a fair deal of time in the corporate, say 10-15 years and you'd realise how much have we moved forward.

SnoozyPanda
SnoozyPanda
VMware24mo

So how do you make sure that the managers are fairly appraising their employees irrespective of one's caste, creed or gender ? Just having these policies at organization levels don't help much unless people at all levels are enforced to ! What's the point of a general organisational belief then if their own employees don't feel a change ?
I am more than a decade old industry veteran ( not a gen Z) and trust me things haven't changed much unfortunately! People Managers still have their own discriminate prejudices and use their unconscious biases during appraisal or hiring time. And if you being from corporate HR can't still see it , that's unfortunate !

SqueakyBoba
SqueakyBoba
Dunzo24mo

Do you pay to Glassdoor for removing fake reviews/ or plant good reviews?

SparklyQuokka
SparklyQuokka

Have seen boutique firms creating fake id for review. I don't think it is anything related to paying anything to Glassdoor or any other company in general.

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

No, Glassdoor does not allow any admin access to make changes to the reviews. However, we always do have an option to respond to the negative/ positive reviews. One subtle way we can and sometimes do influence these is reaching out to employees who have been given a big raise/ promotion and tell them casually to rate the organisation honestly on Glassdoor as per their experience. This does not impact the score much in reality but yeah sometimes we do take an advantage of something we did good to the employee. Being brutally honest here.

JazzyBiscuit
JazzyBiscuit

Do you get incentives for negotiating down an offer?

SparklyQuokka
SparklyQuokka

Strictly no. It is all how strong your negotiation skills are. Do a good research about the role & ask a valid hike.

GigglyPancake
GigglyPancake

HRBPs are not involved in the offer negotiation. Recruiters don't get any incentive for negotiating an offer. It's their job to hire within the prescribed range.
The only negotiation HRBPs do is when retaining an employee and that has to be supporting by a strong business case. In case of services organisation, the bill rate and margins are checked. In product organizations it's ad-hoc.

JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito
Google24mo

Just read it whole. Epic thread.

QuirkyBoba
QuirkyBoba
Porter24mo

+1

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