You should go for Microsoft even if it isn't optimal at the moment in terms of cash component. In the long run this will pay off by opening a lot more doors in tier1 and FAANG companies or you might get chance to also move onsite to US where you can earn a lot more. ESOPs have no value until the startups make an exit - where the odds are highly against you. Probability would be less than 1%. I've worked with multiple startups and learnt this the hard way. Also as you move up the levels, it gets increasingly more competitive to get into tier1 companies. So get into it while you can.. and think of long term than short term salary deficit. It will pay off..

Same here. I have been in startups where the org would not honour your esops, or have some or the other issue. On the other hand MSFT being a public company you have that advantage. 
  
 Moreover, unless the startup is in high growth stage, then you could consider

Analyst

Director Product

How was the interview process? Leetcode? How did you prepared for it

On and off leetcode to stay in touch. Interview- had 1 codility test and 3 interviews(DSA, LLD, HLD) along with 1 AA round(Hiring manager)

Software Developer

Software Engineer

Recruiter

Can any one explain this salary structure. I am kinda new to IT.

Fixed = Actual Cash company paid you before tax 
 Variable = Cash Company will pay basis your performance and company’s performance 
 ESOP = Stock Options so that you can sell stocks to make money

System Administrator

But oh boi you've 19 grapes how you gonna get my DM?

If you don't mind can you share your interview experience and is it for swe 2 or 3

As already mentioned in another comment it's L61. In Microsoft that maps to sde2 
 (L59 and L60 are SDE1)

@CouchPotato  how much does a first line Engineering Manager make at Amazon?  
 Any range or ball park number?   Also is the manager also coding/ hands-on along side the Dev team?  Some insights pls..

Frontend Engineer

How much time did it take for preparation? 
 Can you share your current company or hint atleast?

I have gone through the standard problems once. It took around 2 months along with office and lot of dedication, skipped office parties, utilising weekends rather than enjoying them. It seems a lot but reward vs cost ratio is really good

Software Test - QA

Go for startup meri jaaan 😉 
 Your YOE is 4 mean you are under 30s  
 For now you might not need wlf  
 Go with startup build something great 😊 you will always proud of your self  
 Otherwise you can go for MS if you need chill life

Based on regulations on fantasy sports, you can’t be really sure of job security. However, 8lpa cut is just too step. Tell the recruiter of Microsoft to meet in middle or at least settle for 35fixed.  
  
 Your Joining bonus and relocation will help a lot to push numbers in your favour, consider that how much will you get in Microsoft in 4years. 
 Compare that number against current job and startup. 
  
 ESOPs in startup is worthless only,mostly you won’t stick around that long. 
  
 1. Negotiate in microsoft if you plan to stay for 4 years. 
 2. Else switch into startup for 2years and then go to FAANG for stability.

@ActiveAdult0 what's the series of b2b startup ie a/b/c etc and your YOE?

Senior Product Manager

Congrats on your offer. Only way to pump up this number is having competing offer. 
  
 BTW, is there any 2+ YOE opening at harness? Can you refer for it?

Founder

Never accept an offer that pays less base than current one. You will only regret after some time

Data engineer

He must have left harness. I am also not in Myntra currently

Data Scientist

Sab jagah paisa matter nahi krta Microsoft ka logo hi kafi he aaj bhale hi 32 lag raha par 1 cr me kab badal jayenge pata bhi ni chalega startup me pressure bhi bhut rahega kab fire kr degi pata bhi nahi chalega growth bhi ni hogi next company best package dekhi sirf Microsoft ka naam dekh kr you should go in Microsoft

Consultant

Need help in deciding how can I negotiate on the numbers. Fixed 32LPA Stocks 65000 usd over 4 years (13L for first year) Joining 3L Relocation 3L  Current TC 40LPA fixed, 12lpa esops (Fantasy sport...

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Need help in deciding how can I negotiate on the numbers.
Fixed- 32LPA
Stocks- 65000 usd over 4 years (13L for first year)
Joining- 3L
Relocation- 3L

Current TC- 40LPA fixed, 12lpa esops
(Fantasy sports company)

Other Offer in hand from a startup (sass b2b)
Fixed- 43.5LPA
Variable- 4.5LPA
Esops- 1Cr over 4 years

Received an offer from Microsoft

Received an offer from Microsoft- Grapevine

Received an Offer from Microsoft
Level: L62
Base 42LPA
Stocks 125k USD for 4 years
Joining Bonus: 12L + 4L
Bonus: ~10% of base

Current Employer: Google 
Level: L4
Base: 32LPA
Unvested Stocks: 75k USD for 4 years
Bonus: 15% of base

Questions:
Is it worth switching from Google to Microsoft?
How are the stock refreshers and hikes in Microsoft?

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Application Engineer

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PhonePe:
Designation: Software Engineer 
Fixed: 29L
Joining Bonus: 3L
Esop: 20L (vested over 4 years)
Team: Pincode
Work Location: Bangalore 

Microsoft:
Level: L61(SDE-2)
Fixed: 27L
Joining Bonus: 2L(1L in 1st year, 1L in second year)
Relocation Bonus: 1.62L
Bonus: 0-20% based on company performance
Stocks: 30K USD
Benefits: Standards Microsoft perks
Team: webXT team(edge, bing, video performance etc..)
Location: Hyderabad 


Please give your views on this offer. Which is the best. I have a total of 2.5+ yoe.

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I just joined a company and it's been only 2 weeks. When I accepted the offer there was another interview in pipeline and some delay was going. The result came and now I am confused what to do. 

Startup (current company) TC : 27+2 (base+pf)

New Offer from a big firm: 31.5+3.15+1.51+45kUSD(Base+target bonus+pf+stocks 4yrs) = 43.87LPA Annual CTC

It's not easy as it seems. The startup (curr company) has great culture and tech stack. The product is exciting. It is part of a larger parent company. 

Whereas the big firm (new offer) works on a Monolith and work mostly uses Java. Codebase is 20yrs old according to Hiring manager. And one more thing - I hate Java. Why the difference has to be so big in TC 😭 I don't like to be confused. Have you ever been in such a situation? I want to relate my situation. 

YoE : 2

Need to decide my offer/situation

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Hi Viners,
My elder brother who used to work in strategy got laid off in July. He had a fixed pay of 35 and total CTC of 42. ( 2 lakh annual esops, 5 lakh variable). He has a pretty good runway and not worried about the finances since currently at home and no rent/ other metro city expenses. He has been working as an external consultant since December and making 3 lakh per month as fees.

Yesterday he received an full time offer from a startup with Fixed pay 32, 1 lakh retention, 1 lakh performance bonus and 4 lakh annual esops at the last valuation.

The startup is yet to raise series B but the role he is getting is a strategy and ops planning role along with PnL responsibility in 3-6 months.

HR told him that the salary would get revised once they recieve series B but he knows that stuff is usually just lip service. Glassdoor reviews also show that the workload will be high and might have to work on public holidays as well.

Would you advice to take this?

Would you take a paycut?

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CTC or GTFO

UX/UI Designer

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Hi

Wanted to see if the offer is in line with what the market is offering.

It's a founders office role with a Series B company in Fintech. 
YoE: 4.5
One of the 5 old IITs
Based on the market conditions, does it look lucrative enough to join?
Fixed: 38
Variable:10% of fixed. With a possibility of 1.5x
Stocks: Roughly 25 lacs per year

Offer Validation

I interviewed with Microsoft for Sde-2 level role but they are offering L60 to me. Stocks are good since I don’t get Rsus as part if my comp in GS. Should I consider it? Recruiter is not budging for negotiation at all. Base is almost same

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I want to understand if you are also satisfied with your compensation?

How much do you really earn? Honest Answers Please 🙏

2.4 lakhs/month. 
      
 Not a developer. 
 Not in Tier 1 city.  
 Not in FAANG or whatever it’s called now. 
 No loans or EMIs for now. 
  
 Married to my GF of six years. She earns 1.3 lakhs/month. 
  
 Guess, I could say I am extremely satisfied.

Product Manager

Hi, I got an offer from a Series B startup and they are giving me 3000 shares of ESOPs vested over 4 years. Right now the value of each shares are worth $5 and has a potential to grow after new funding rounds this year. I feel 3000 shares is less and want to negotiate for more. 

In your experience can anyone tell me how much ESOPs (shares) have you received from new startups? And was it benefecial in the long run?

Any input is appreciated.

How much ESOPs should I ask from a Series B startup?

Without disclosing numbers & names, I’m currently a PM at an AI unicorn 

Salary - 20LPA + 200 ESOPs (2L value, 50 will vest in March.) (Hike due April) 

Job Offer - 25LPA + ESOPs (8.5L value) (Gaming/eSports company, which is kinda my passion) 

I had initially asked for 30LPA but the company came back saying the max they’ll be able to do is 25LPA fixed. 

Looking for opinions on what I should do.

Received an offer from Microsoft

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