Dear HRs - Answer Me.
Need answer to just one thing. Do you guys intentionally ghost candidates or do you guys intentionally ghost candidates? 🙂
Paaji
Stealth
a year ago
Profession dominated by women - typical passive agressive behaviour. Avoidance
Wow bro such an amazingly relevant comment. It's 2023. Stop calling out roles only because they're dominated by a specific gender?
Paaji
Stealth
a year ago
Cool, offer a logical explanation then
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LooseGoose
Stealth
a year ago
I'm not HR but I did try recruiting for my own startup.
Problem is there's too many profiles applying for roles, and just hiring the right candidate takes up a lot of time. Rejection emails are unfortunately not a priority especially if the first screening itself removes the majority of candidates from pool of applicants. Unless someone uses good ATS and other systems that take care of emails at every step, it's not really worth spending time and money on for a small business.
If someone reaches out though, we do tell them if/why they were rejected. Then again, that's us as a small biz.
MightyLazyGeekStar
Stealth
a year ago
The main reason why anyone would ghost is people can’t take rejection. I am a recruiter and would be upfront if someone is rejected post an interview but have come across multiple folks who just couldn’t take a no.
MightyLazyGeekStar
Stealth
a year ago
It is. But I’d always have a case where the candidate ends up questioning the interviewers credentials and go into another level of abuse. Life isnt fair
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In my previous companies, the management will ask to do interviews mostly from competitor company or similar just to understand how they are doing, their numbers, data etc..
I’ve had this issue two fancy recruiters reached out unsolicited took my number/email and ghosted me. I’m quite pissed honestly because they took my personal information.
Everytime someone reaches out to me to provide information, I would just ask them to share a company link where I can officially drop them rather than just DMing them. And booom, they are now ghosts. Beware of such scammers though. They know about the bad job market right now and they portray themselves as a recruiter from a high seed funded startup or some big company and try to get as much personal information from unknown links.
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One of my seniors' is HR, she told me they sometimes intentionally and unintentionally ghost candidates. Depends on the situation.
Deadly300
Stealth
a year ago
I got ghosted 14times but no reply: common atleast don't give me hope too
1.Sometime hiring managers don’t waste much time on a detailed feedback for a rejected candidate.
2.Sometimes they will hold a candidate and ask the HR to line up few more candidates to evaluate before making a decision.
3. Recruiters are the middle men - most often they Wouk only be able to send a standard rejection email once the loop is closed for the candidate because personalised feedback is never done by any large scale companies - read legal/PR headache which inevitably happens because everyone cannot digest rejection.
4. Sheer volume of applications that you get on this side is crazy.
But a good HR will be open and let the candidate know that either a. It’s under process. b. Doesn’t look like you made it. C. It’s on hold.
Qwerty2398
Stealth
a year ago
they do what they are told...
Deadly300
Stealth
a year ago
I recently had word with some startup completed
assignment took a week got shortlisted for interview and interview went like top notch, even interviewer was so happy.
To my surprise I got rejection mail from HR, can anyone tell is it bcs I had 8months gap in my resume
Deadly300
Stealth
a year ago
Yeah, even I was also curious already they had designer y they wanted 1 more that too small startup
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Umadbro
Stealth
a year ago
It’s simple really. If you give unimportant people power, they will use every occasion to demonstrate it. They would have 100 excuses as to why they could not get back, but the truth is it alters the power differential, even if they were to reach out later.
Easiest to ghost. Saves time, effort you do the job well, and shows that they have so much power that even after ghosting, next time they call, candidates would be happy to join go through the process
Lazybug
Stealth
a year ago
I’d like to break this down in few things to make you understand:
- lack of automation in approaching candidates is the worst thing India is continues to operate on. The bulk applications that a recruiter receives are humanly impossible for them to deal with 1v1
- lack of clarity from higher ups is definitely another major reason and leadership / hiring managers create peer pressure to have huge pipelines but at the end of day they won’t have budget / approvals / roadmap
- a recruiter goes through the worst work life balance and if an org is on a hiring spree they hardly see any weekends and holidays . it takes toll on them when candidates keep calling , pinging back back to back even during odd hours .
so overall just imagine how much of an effort it would take to be a recruiter
Honestly it's an India issue. Other companies have automated emails if you're rejected, apparently too expensive for companies to implement an auto mailer once the hr hits reject in their ERP. I blame the bad work culture in a few companies for this more than any 1 person tbh
Paaji
Stealth
a year ago
The letter we send
I hope this email finds you well. On behalf of xyz Pvt. Ltd., I want to express our sincere appreciation for taking the time and effort to apply for the Software Development Engineer position with us. We truly value your interest in joining our team.
After careful consideration and thorough evaluation of all candidates, we regret to inform you that we have decided not to move forward with your application at this time. Please know that this decision was not made lightly, and it does not reflect on your qualifications, skills, or potential as a professional.
We received a large number of applications, and the selection process was highly competitive. While your credentials were impressive, we had to make difficult choices in selecting the candidates who best matched the specific requirements of the position and our current organizational needs.
If you have any questions or would like feedback on your application, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are more than willing to provide constructive feedback to help you in your job search.
Once again, thank you for your interest, and we wish you success in your career.
Dear HR - How can you elevate D&EI (quotient/metrics) without creating a bias towards any one gender for external hiring and internal progression?
Slay0007
Stealth
a year ago
Depends ghosting at what stage of your candidature......but mostly It's not hr or Recruiter....it's your hiring manager or your future peer....who don't communicate feedback to your hr or Recruiter and they don't have any update to share with you and unfortunately ghosting
Paaji
Stealth
a year ago
Just to share a perspective on this profession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C5UQbWzwg8
Techyuce
Stealth
a year ago
Mai HR hoon! mujhe sab pata hai..
Now HR ghost for following reasons:
1. They don't get any reply from Management, sad but decision makers don't respond on time
2. There are over 1000 applications for each role, management ask HR to evaluate each profile. Takes time to respond to each profile
3. If you are on notice period, They will wait to offer you very close to your exit date, their chances of you joining them increases
Mostly the ghosting happens cos they don't have a clear answer and decision makers duck behind them.
FYI, candidates are equally to blame , we get ghosted too.
Fun fact: Only in HR do cutest of the girls get to feel what rejection means . 😂😂😂
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