If u get offer from Uber, Atlassian, Amazon, etc. then 40+ (sde2+) would be minimum. Curious about rest of it

Product Manager

Software Engineer

Need an honest answer from those who are layed off, what is your daily routine going like and how is your job application process going on?  Also are you getting a chance of higher package even if ...

Need an honest answer from those who are layed off, what is your daily routine going like and how is your job application process going on?

Also are you getting a chance of higher package even if you have been earning like 30+ lpa?

For those layed off

Technical Lead

For those layed off- Grapevine

Welcome to News Discussion's Private Community

If you got a new offer, describe your new company, let's say matching the previous offer or more than previous salary by x%. Tell us role , location details etc.,

People who got laid off during the current scenario. What's going on?

Maybe soon I'll be get laid of by my firm as layoff is ongoing in company and manager also keeping distance from last some days.
How to handle this situation.

Laid off

Software Developer

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Is it good idea to reveal that you were impacted by layoffs? Do HRs lowball the offers when they know who are in need. I get too many calls because of being immediately available but when it comes to money all have same trend not sure is it do with my situation or markets situation..if I don't reveal what excuses do I make?

How laid off candidates are treated in job market

Such a dull Saturday!
Please share something interesting

What's the latest gossip? What's new f* up you did?

Consultant

I don't know why everyone is making a big deal out of layoffs. Even the ones who laid off are not that concerned than the ones who comment.

Laid off employees literally get free money upwards of 10 lakhs in many cases of senior developers who are laid off from top tech startups. Companies pay severance equal to 3-6 months salary of laid off employees. Some even offer other benefits as well.

I personally know a couple of Devs who got around ~9-10L in severance pay. So, yeah if there are layoffs happening in funded tech startups or leading tech companies, considering their pay range, laid off employees get handsome severance pay including employee benefits

Layoffs a big deal? Positive side of layoffs

Hope you get laid-off & get a good severance package! Will see how your job search goes.

Engineering Manager

Product Designer

I feel a lot of insecurity about what if I lost my job.
I work in Analytics & data science in a well known Indian Bank.
Overall WOE is 8 yrs with 6 yrs in Analytics

Tier 1 Engg+MBA.

I would say after MBA i lost my way and hence behind my peers in career growth. This is mostly due to unsatisfactory work in the beginning leading to switches based on emotions and impulse, not patience.

Though my current job is stable and its been about 2.5 years in this role, it’s a bit stressful and honestly I don’t like the constant firefighting mode that we are in. I constantly put in 10-11 hrs on a daily basis with occasional work on weekends. This includes almost 3 hrs of meetings everyday, where a lot of redundant work requests come in and almost everytime they have to be delivered in next 1-2 days. Quality of work is not so great.

I tried applying but not getting decent calls. Only startups and Indian cos with high turnover reply to my applications. They too aren’t ready to discuss a decent hike.

I am really insecure about what will happen if I quit / laid off. I have gone through layoffs earlier in my career and believe me it’s a terrible experience, eats up all your savings. 

I tI tried a few sidegigs to build passive income source such as building a YouTube channel on travel, or a travel advisory app but couldn’t move much. App didn’t happen and YT channel didn’t get off after few months of hard work.


I currently am very demotivated and feel that i have not been able to grow in my career. Salary posts on grapevine add a lot more to my demotivation.

Current CTC is 27.

Insecure about what if i lost my job

Data Analyst

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

I am a 25 yr old male and I come from a very small town in Jharkhand. My dad was a mechanic.

I am their only son. I graduated from a tier 3 college where getting any job was a dream. I worked hard and cleared a 9 LPA job in Pune. Got promoted and got hikes and came to around 13 LPA in around a year’s time. Resigned it for Amazon, BLR at 30 LPA. I joined in Oct 22 and got laid off in Jan 23. When I cleared Amazon, it was moment of pride for me and my parents. For the first time everything looked well and life felt happy and promising. It was just perfect.

After the layoff, life has been full of struggle. It was so difficult to get a job. Somehow got a decent company who would at least hire me without reducing my pay, but had to deal with a pathetic manager, and the culture wasn’t too good. Joined here for ~34 LPA

I finished 1 year in this company this April and I started to interview. Started with a startup, they said they can’t offer that much. Next was MSFT. They took 8 ROUNDS for a SE2 role and they offered me a L60 role and won’t budge at all, for a lower comp. I had to reject. In the meantime, I had already cleared Intuit at 50 LPA and DE Shaw at around 60 LPA. DE Shaw HM told me this role is SDET which the recruiter didn’t mention. Had to reject there. I resigned after I cleared Intuit and expected MSFT to give me an offer and I was sure that whatever comp they’ll offer I’ll take, but didn’t expect them to give me L60 and a comp around 29 LPA.

When Intuit’s joining came close I considered taking my resignation back but my manger bullied me and didn’t take my resignation back.

I got a chance to interview with Apple. It was so close to Intuit’s joining date that I asked Intuit to push it by 3 weeks. After 5 rounds, Apple said they can’t go ahead with my profile because of less experience. 

Folks trust me: All my interviews at MSFT and Apple went very very well.

When I made up my mind to join Intuit, they announced lay offs. My only option is to join.

Feeling like I lost in life

Hi folks,
I recently got laid off from a startup where 50% of the engineering team was let go. I was working as an SDE and during a restructuring, my role was changed to SDE-2 without any increase in pay or responsibilities. I have a total of 2.5 years of experience. In my first company (where I worked for a year), there weren't many projects, so I didn't have the opportunity to learn or code much. However, in my second company, I primarily worked on the backend using Go, Django, Kafka, MongoDB, & PostgreSQL.
I realize that although I gained exposure in my second job, I didn't delve deeply into the technologies. I mainly focused on completing business tasks quickly, learning new things just to finish the task at hand, without solidifying my understanding afterward.
My experience seems suitable for an SDE-2 role, but I'm unsure if I can perform the role with complete honesty and may struggle. Some friends in similar situations reassure me that this struggle is common in SDE-2 roles. However, I feel I might be better off starting again as an SDE-1, focusing on my weak areas, and aiming for a promotion later. There are very few SDE-1 job openings currently.
I am actively interviewing for SDE-2, and not able to clear system design interviews. Tbh, I feel very humiliated as when I am not able to answer their questions it feels like I am wasting their time or they would be thinking: Oh this guy has been working for so long and doesn't even know anything.

Now I get it why people think Indian Software engineers are not that good in comparison to other countries' devs: the reason is people like me. 
This realization burdens me with guilt, occupying my thoughts constantly. However, I am confident that I can crack SDE-1 easily. I have good DSA & good enough LLD, &HLD skills for SDE1. I am looking for companies who can match my prev Salary: 22 L, 2 Bonus.
Can u help how to navigate this career situation effectively without increasing my guilt or feeling constantly humiliated?

Laid Off | Stuck Now | Too Anxious | Please guide

First work on the feeling of humiliation and self worthlessness. Don't ignore this, I've done it and it's one of my biggest regret. Working on this will feel a waste of time initially given job search is highest priority, I assure you your future self would thank you.  
  
 Now you are clearly very self aware, most incompetent people don't even know their shortcomings. And you know what, many comparatively incompetent people are making much more money, having much less self doubt and just living more - it's like being more self aware is a curse.  
  
 How do you get out of this curse? It's a slow process. Write down the things that make you feel that way, come up with an an action plan on what you could do to reduce that - clear goals and actions always relive anxiety. Writing things down is extremely important, keep coming back to it whenever you feel the same way, eventually you would reason your way out of this. Most of the time you are in a loop, living in guilt and self doubt for the same reasons over and over. Documentation of these feelings over time will make it look so silly, how could the same problem give you so much mental pain again and again.  
  
 You will do just fine career wise. With a few more years of experience, I can guarantee you will evolve over time, the problems giving you so much mental pain would seem very trivial then - that if you are able to resolve these feelings - otherwise it's a hell I wouldn't want for my worst enemies.  
  
 Some questions to ponder over -  
 1. Can you do the job search while being just a little gentle on yourself? 
 2. Does failure mean you have no worth? Can you fail more gracefully?  
 3. Does 2.5 years of mistakes(even if it see that way) mean you can't do amazing things in coming years? 
 4. Above all, does feelings of humiliation and worthlessness help you in any way? If nothing else changes, wouldn't it be better to just be a little gentler on yourself? 
  
 Take care, you don't have a career problem, a mental health one instead

Welcome to Data Scientists's Private Community

Hello Everyone, 

This is my current condition:
Yoe - 3 yrs
Ctc - 21 lpa

How much should I ask in ibm? They haven't informed me in which band/level I am going to be. Do not know for which city they are hiring for. 

Tomorrow is the call for salary negotiation. Not sure how to proceed. Any help is really appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Data Scientist at IBM - Salary Negotiation

Machine Learning Engineer

Any suggestions how to get back to previous  salary?

Due to financial situation and sudden layoff, I had to join in some company for 25Lpa to support my family, my previous is 37.5Lpa

Leave the count of applicants. Entry level doesn't even mean entry level anymore (*looking at you LinkedIn). You guys got any other avenues for job search. I am a data analyst with 2+ yrs of exp.

Job search is broken

Business Analyst

Was laid off in April week 1. Joined a company last Thursday(with paycut), but have got another offer today with 20% higher pay [base is +4 lakhs]. What to do? What should I tell HR? Also, the probation notice period is 15 days, will I need to serve it all?

Advice Needed

Hi folks,
I got laid off in Sept. since then looking for a Job. 
market is so scary. 
Few questions:
1. a lot of companies are hiring through crewscale, etc. they are offering low salary as per the role. are companies paying low salary to them or they are taking a big cut? do people treat them differently once they join a company via crewscale?

2. I am not able to get my resume shortlist for mncs. 

what to do now? recently my friend got a call from razorpay gehy were offering for sde role 15 lakh for 2 years experienced. they were paying 22 lakh for sde 1 last year. the role is not product engg or solution ennggg that they recently introduced for low salary. it was sde role.

fat rhi h ab. kya kru??????
my exp: 2.5 backend

I am scared now.

I am an ML engineer working in a startup.

My current situation is horrible,I am constantly stressed about getting laid-off(My performance is good,I got promoted a month ago). I came to know that my company will probably lay people off this month,since they are unable to meet targets.

Now,I got rejected in four interviews.
There is a lot to learn and revise.
Stats and probability.
Machine learning algos.
Deep learning architectures(got rejected because I was unable to explain the architecture of a complex model in detail).
DSA(got rejected twice in this round).
SQL (got rejected once since I was unable to solve the SQL problem).
ML ops(some recruiters ask this as well).

With the added pressure of getting laid off,my whole life is turned upside down.I am unable to focus.
Every meeting or discussion I attend I feel like people are evaluating me.( This was not the case before).
I don't know what to do.
It would really help,if you guys share your interview experiences below.

Rant

Welcome to Personal Finance's Private Community

I'm a 30Yo with 7years in the same industry however at only 6LPA. For someone with this much experience i surely deserve more hence i started looking out for opportunities and got a 9LPA offer. When I put down my papers the current company has promised appraisal but are not confirming how much will I get and when will it start from. And now I'm stuck because the new offer is running out and my current company is simply binding time. I'm really clueless and ffs i really need to start making good decisions. #Salary

Decision Making

Operations Manager

Are there folks on the vine who have experienced previous down cycles?
Financial crisis of 08-09 or the funding winter in 16-17?

What would you suggest someone who has been laid off on how to navigate career trajectories given the uncertainities ahead. Many folks would have planned their career paths but due to the change in situations all of this has gone for a toss. 

Should people settle for lower pays or lower designations? How does it impact the trajectory ahead

Other folks who have read about this or discussed this with others do pour in your thoughts

Guidance on navigating down cycles

Hey everyone, I hope you can help me out with this one query i have, is it fine to tell the interviewer that i got laid off when they ask why i am looking for a job change in this marker?
I have been WFH for 2 years, have 6L in liquidity for runway i guess, idk if it's safe or not but how is the job market currently. 
Recently gave interview in a tier 1 product based company, got rejected in 2nd round as well so what should be my plan now? 
How to tackle this feeling of being incompetent and anxiety?
I hope you can me out with these questions 😭

Got laid off today after asking for appraisal for 2 months.

I recently got laid off due to restructuring in the company.

I have 6 months of internship and 6 months of full time experience in the same company.

Mostly looking for backend developer jobs in Java and Spring. Since I worked on this stack. 

since it was my first job that too campus placement, I have some noob questions about the job switch 

- Can I find a good paying job as a fresher java developer ? (my previous base was 14LPA)

- How should I go about applying. which sites or methods to use 

- what is the order of importance in (refral, resume, cold mailing, LinkedIn, direct applying on career site)

If you have any openings or can refer for a junior or associate Software engineer position. Please drop a comment.

[Laid off] looking for a fresher backend job

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

I've had the fortune of having worked in 3 countries so far. India is by far the most exciting place to be in 2024.
But there's something about our work ethic that just concerns me. In both white and blue collar.

In most other countries, I've observed people strictly sticking to the 9 to 5, working diligently in those hours - not wasting too much time on chai sutta breaks, instagram browsing, gupshup etc.

They work for 8 hours, then leave. And think about work directly the next day.

In India, most of us spend more hours - but very obviously very few of those hours are productive. In fact, I lately feel that too many people around me are doing even 2-3 hours of work on a good day.

We end up just staying around, passing time, and then go back home. When we could have achieved so much more.

Work ethic has fallen. Work hours have gone up.

We need to be more mindful of our actions, we need to work well at work, and then do well at home.

I think it's a function of being over populated. There are 1.5-2 people doing what 1 person should be doing, hence this effect.

Needs to be fixed, it's the sign of a major problem in the workforce. Thoughts?

Disguised unemployment in India - It's all around us :/

We don't end up staying long hours because we need to. But because we have to, so that the manager doesn't feel like we leave the office by "half day".  
  Also, they have a leverage that they can shut their laptops at 5 and nobody will reach out to them. But here in India, managers do reach out for escalations, or make us attend lat evening calls because it's afternoon in Europe or morning in NA. The people sitting in Europe or NA are not made to wake up early or attend night calls to accommodate us during our actual 9-5.  
  People also chit chat etc. bcz they know for sure that they have to sit for long hours..so they need to take small breaks in the day. No one has the capacity to work 10-11 hrs without any breaks.  
  Here it would never be possible to have such a strict 9-5.

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