I think one should not look for cultures in startups

Why, do you have some reasoning behind this ideology.

Software Engineer

I was going through the careers portal of this decently funded startup and they had opening for SDE2 Backend and Frontend both.  But the discrimination they did between FE and BE just got me to ner...

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I was going through the careers portal of this decently funded startup and they had opening for SDE2 Backend and Frontend both. 
But the discrimination they did between FE and BE just got me to nerves.
1. The BE role was just termed as SDE2 whereas FE role was termed as SDE2 - Frontend Engineer, Why?🤷‍♂️
2. Both the roles are of same level but the experience required for FE is 3years whereas for BE, its just 2years. A big Red flag about the culture 🚩 
3. For BE role they haven't wrote anything language specific (which is a good thing as they're language agnostic and focusing on the core instead) But for FE they've filled their JD with languages, frameworks and even fcking libraries.

All this together makes it a very risky bet for anyone looking for a SDE2 - Frontend Role. 
Passing this one and recommend everyone to look for such small red flags 🚩 which tells us alot about company.

Thanks
FE JD ⤵️, BE JD is in comments.

I rejected to apply at a company seeing their JD.

I rejected to apply at a company seeing their JD.- Grapevine

Hi folks, I am a frontend engineer. A bit of background about me:

- Exp: 4 years
- Tech: Over the years, I have only worked on frontend and some build tooling. For all these years I have only used JS/TS and ReactJS to the point where I currently feel handicapped in other languages.

My problem with frontend:

Most companies I have worked till now except for one, frontend is just converting the UI designs to UI code as fast as possible. Most companies do not offer much time to think about different cases for a component and write it well. Its mostly, if it works then push. Contrast to this, BE does get proper design + arch to ensure it scales well with future requirements.

Why I am thinking of backend/fullstack roles?

Seems better from future point of view. Progression is clear in BE, lot more roles it seems, interview process is mostly standard. In FE its sometimes FE releated, some DSA etc. So never sure what they going to ask. Also, progression in FE is bit unclear and how to make a case for it.

What are my options?
1) In my current company, BE is Java + Springboot, I have started doing some BE tasks here and there but seems Java + Springboot is a mammoth and I dont know if I will be good enough for a switch of roles with this experience. Switching inside the company feels a far fetched dream since there are far less number of FE devs and I have to mostly work on FE tasks one after the other because of scarcity.

2) Learn and do some side projects in Node.js since already familiar with JS and also had done some small APIs(freecodecamp) based on nodejs in the past.

3) Learn python, good for backend software dev + good for ml also going forward. Seems easier than Java to get started with django.

Primary confusion between  2 & 3 is, does side project make any difference when switching for roles or will actual job experience with option 1 be of more value even though it will take a long long time? 

Please suggest if someone has switched roles before.

Thanks.

Moving from Frontend to Backend/Fullstack roles?

I quit my last company in Dec 2023 due to some reasons. I was not aware the market would be this bad. Basically in a nutshell I have at least given interviews in 10-15 companies till now, cleared most of theirs all rounds, but for some reason or other they didn’t release an offer. some feedback includes, why do you want to join us with such less hike, you would leave us in few months. One said they are not able to get final sign off from their lord in US. And mostly others just stopped responding. ATM I don’t understand anything, emergency funds getting over, and realised all the network I made till now in my career and whom I helped are of no use. I know I wont get any clear advice here also, but just venting out. I am on the brink of just quitting everything of this corporate drama and start prepping for govt exam, or start a small biz in my town

Unemployed since 3 months

Frontend Engineer

I have 3 yrs of experience after my graduation, 8 months of backend experience and  from past 2.4 months I am into  frontend project. 

Now I'm planning to switch trying to start preparation. I have ready with DSA rounds , coming with system design rounds I have a  confusion. Should I need to prepare for frontend or backend system design topics

If I joined in another company should i start my carrer as a sde2 or sde1. If i join for SDE2 position can i catch backend to team standard.

Career Guidance

Software Developer

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Saw this hiring post without y-axis

Senior Designer

Hi everyone! 
I am a fresher and had a full time offer from Byju's and I had joining on 16th June which got deferred to 2nd August. Today I got another mail and it is further deferred to January 2024.
I don't have any other offer right now and I tried texting HRs on LinkedIn but no response. I used to be an active CP coder in college days. Any referral help/advice is appreciated.
Thank you!

Byju's offer deferred

Don’t wait. There will be no tech team until jan’24

Product Designer

I am working as a front-end developer in a startup for 2+ years and i want to switch to a different company.

The problem is I have only worked on the frontend in my current job though my designation is SDE in my offer letter. I don't have much knowledge about backend either.While applying for jobs the JD says i should have work experience in backend tech so in this case should I apply to those jobs or not.There are very few job openings for frontend and everyone is asking for full stack.

Will my interviewer asks questions for backend also though I have not worked on it? Or should I only focus on DSA.I have a good knowledge on frontend.

Should I just focus on frontend and DSA for my interviews? I am planning to Target FAANGM and good product start-ups

Experience - 2+

Tc - 9.5(8.5 + 1 bonus)

Are frontend devs not eligible to apply for SDE roles?

Indian SDEs on LinkedIn & Twitter are some of the worst engineers you will ever find across the real world. Their typical value lies around:

- Cracking a FAANG/MAANG or Product company.
- Make an announcement on LinkedIn & Twitter and accumulating followers.
- Starting YouTube channel, Topmate links, affiliate marketing channels, and more.
- Rant DSA, System Design, Interview resources all day long. 
- Post daily of their office, their colleagues, candid shots, and barely getting any work done.

While this is expected out of early career professionals, it pains to see senior SDEs doing the same shit over and over again. Things don't end here — Everyone talks about creating a revolution. And the revolution is teaching DSA. 

If you are an experienced SDE and still ranting DSA, it just means that you have barely learnt anything that is of worth any value. You are atmost a "Ticket Engineer". You get assigned a Jira ticket, you bust your ass solving it, and that's it. That's your entire value. 

Its high time that these "Bhaiya", "Didis", "Bhabhis" stop ranting DSA and System Design over and over, and build something of real value. You would barely see any credible open-source projects coming out of India (but hey, we have some many contributors!), barely any Indie dev project, or anything that captures the attention of the world. 

Literally every popular SDE you might follow or see over your social media is the same. Their entire community game is a farce and designed to capture gullible college students and shill thousands of rupees out of them. You might be featured on Times Square ($40 ka showoff), but no one would remember you for anything that you built.

<Rant Over. Peace>

Indian SDEs will do all DSA and System Design chatter but cannot create any real value

Indian job market looks at YOE more than skills. I am working as SDE 1 pulling in SDE 2 tasks for a while. Declined promotion as have only 16 months of experience and not getting shortlisted for SDE 2 in other companies as well. 
What can someone do in this type of scenario.

YOE > Skills?

what all tech companies are hiring for 3+ years of experience right now, can you help with the referrals.
And how crucial is the tech stack, seems like most of the firms are java based and me having worked in python and django this seems like a blocker.

SDE2 backend hiring

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Hi everyone 

I have been interviewed by a consultancy for amex for product Analyst (one round) and I have been selected .
For a 6month contract which can be extended to one year as per the final interview and performance.
And they are offering quite a lucrative package for it .

The JD they shared doesn't provide specifics about job roles and technologies used in job. 

I am quite confuse as to what are there expectations and should I join or not i have around 2 yrs of exp .
Pls suggest

It's urgent pls suggest

Product analyst

I am a React.js Developer & have 2 YOE (6 months at a consultancy startup + 1.5 years in a service based MNC).

I do not like working with React.js for multiple reasons & do not wish to pursue working with this further. 

I want to know what are some alternative career paths or technologies that are as much in demand & feasible to switch towards? Ideally, towards a more stable, battle-tested technology or tech stack and something that is as well paying too. 

(..continued from my original post) Some technologies that I considering are JAVA , ASP.NET & Laravel as unlike React.js, they are not loosely opinionated and don't have a constantly changing API where the way of writing code itself changes (e.g - redux and/or using data fetching libraries) . There is no standardised best practice to conform to.

But, the problem is that I find Laravel jobs are not in use in corporates or large tech companies but apparently ASP.net core jobs are not as well paying for equivalent years of experience as that of a front-end React.js developer. 

TC - 8.6 LPA (2 YOE)

Suggestions requested! Want to change career path from React.js/Front end

After 3 yeo of experience in FE i am looking to switch to BE but want to take advice from peeps who have actually done that.
If you have any pointers plz suggest me.
Thanks in advance.

Anyone here switched from Frontend to Backend engg

I am currently working as Frontend developer (NextJS) (React). I have 1.5+ YOE .

Recently i have started applying in different companies for FE role but none of them reverted back to me except 1 startup (that was in very early stage)

I want to switch because - 

1. Salary is less (9lpa).

2. Here they only focus on new features not code quality and optimization.

3. I want to work on scale

Is Applying for Jobs without referral is waste of time

I can see folks looking down on Frontend Engineering, why is it so?
Is there a pay gap between frontend and backend.

Do frontend engineers have any future?

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Corporate catfishing? More companies are posting realistic job listings that don't exist. 

Companies doing this are trying to trick employees into thinking the company is growing and that they are hiring more workers to alleviate their workload. This is not only manipulative, but immoral. 

If you want to increase productivity and alleviate stress in your office, start by showing appreciation for your employees and encouraging them.

Share some companies you might know that have been doing this.

That job you applied for, might not exist !!

Expert

Senior Consultant

I have given 5 rounds of interview consisting of four technicals and hr round. 

My first three round was buttery smooth and i performed outstanding. 

In the last round i did made the solution as per the interviewer wants but i solved the question through other methods in the same time and space complexity. 


Verdict : got rejected. 

I know that interviewer know only one method and he wants me to do in that way.. how can i do that things ? 

Well the company was EDS  backed by northern trust was interviewing for junior full stack developer.


Such a harsh way to reject candidate.

I rejected to apply at a company seeing their JD.

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