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Why are we so obsessed about ctc, I understand that it's important but, in YouTube or linkedin I don't find any Indian  YouTuber who are doing great engineering discussions or inventing anything. I...

Why are we so obsessed about ctc, I understand that it's important but, in YouTube or linkedin I don't find any Indian  YouTuber who are doing great engineering discussions or inventing anything. Indian youtube channel are just interviews and project for portfolio or DSA algo shit for interview.

No fun stuff, coding for fun, fun algorithms. I follow Daniel shiffman.. coding train, just makes me think why we don't have any YouTuber or content creator who likes and loves the fun aspect of coding. 

Does this reflects our engineering society or my algorithm is biased towards such things?

It's always about ctc

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It's always about ctc- Grapevine

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Why Indian Engineers after getting job share only how did they get job.. how to prepare for that.. and opening the youbtube channel now becomes compulsory? Is it real engineering? I am student but I don't think it is good for real engineers

I see that this channel mostly contains threads that are irrelevant to real software engineering! No one talks about building software or designing stuff. Is salary discussion and a job switch what most Indian Engineers really care about? 
Hoping to see more discussion on stuff like

System Design, advance data structures, Databases, optimization techniques, leetcode questions, programming languages, Cloud Concepts, Machine learning, Microservices, Certification preperation etc.

Why no one talks about Software Development?

Software Engineer

LeetCode is a psyop designed by Big Tech to hire rule-followers who can grind away at pointless tasks

Indian SDEs on LinkedIn & Twitter are some of the worst engineers you will ever find across the real world. Their typical value lies around:

- Cracking a FAANG/MAANG or Product company.
- Make an announcement on LinkedIn & Twitter and accumulating followers.
- Starting YouTube channel, Topmate links, affiliate marketing channels, and more.
- Rant DSA, System Design, Interview resources all day long. 
- Post daily of their office, their colleagues, candid shots, and barely getting any work done.

While this is expected out of early career professionals, it pains to see senior SDEs doing the same shit over and over again. Things don't end here — Everyone talks about creating a revolution. And the revolution is teaching DSA. 

If you are an experienced SDE and still ranting DSA, it just means that you have barely learnt anything that is of worth any value. You are atmost a "Ticket Engineer". You get assigned a Jira ticket, you bust your ass solving it, and that's it. That's your entire value. 

Its high time that these "Bhaiya", "Didis", "Bhabhis" stop ranting DSA and System Design over and over, and build something of real value. You would barely see any credible open-source projects coming out of India (but hey, we have some many contributors!), barely any Indie dev project, or anything that captures the attention of the world. 

Literally every popular SDE you might follow or see over your social media is the same. Their entire community game is a farce and designed to capture gullible college students and shill thousands of rupees out of them. You might be featured on Times Square ($40 ka showoff), but no one would remember you for anything that you built.

<Rant Over. Peace>

Indian SDEs will do all DSA and System Design chatter but cannot create any real value

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

I love to read about tech and how startups evolved. Have spent a lot of time figuring out how the good product companies in the US got built: Google, FB, Instagram, Snap, Pinterest etc. etc. 

One thing stands out: A lot of these started out as just projects, and not a real startup. 
Instagram was just an idea to make photo filtering better. Reddit was just a project around making a cooler internet.

They set off as projects, and got some traction before becoming funded startups. Because they had devs in the founding team, who were always doing projects as side hustles. 

This wasn't the time when SDE salaries were so pumped up, they didn't want to just become good devs, they probably wanted to solve real problems. 

My takeaway: 

Maybe Engineers shouldn’t be too incentivised to just code. They should be incentivised to think business. 
Thats how FB, Google, Insta etc happened as companies.

In India, high pay endears engineers to stick to coding, do less business thinking.
That’s why we don’t see too many coders posting their side projects on X, Reddit, GV within India. Maybe there just aren’t enough. 

Have just been thinking about this. 

Open to thoughts from the community - maybe my view is limited. Would love to hear.

Why Silicon Valley became Silicon Valley, and why that will likely not happen in India

This is an actually very true. 
  
 I’ve seen developers who are very good in the stuff they do but lack the thinking from a customer / business POV. They take the PRD and convert it into code but never ever question whether this is the experience they want to provide to the end user.  
  
 Everyone needs to understand code is a way to achieve business and to achieve business , you would need to think from a business prospective. 
  
 That’s why , I always tell my juniors whenever they code , always take a step back and put yourself in the customer shoes and think what you are doing is what you want as a customer or not

Corporate Strategist

Suggest some handles/profiles that have non cringe content

Nikhil Kamath on YT is one such gem. Overpowered also

Non Cringe Content Creators

Generalist

Welcome to News Discussion's Private Community

- Indian tech market size reached $254 billion in FY24, growing 3.8% YoY
- Mere 2.5% of Indian engineers possess AI skills, 5.5% qualified in basic programming
- 86% of Indian businesses actively reskilling IT workers to meet skills gap
- AI/ML engineer salaries range from Rs. 8.2 LPA to Rs. 43 LPA in GCCs
- Data engineering, product management, and DevOps roles see 10-12% salary growth 

 Source: [Business Today](https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/only-55-of-the-indian-engineers-are-qualified-with-basic-programming-skills-report-443227-2024-08-27)

Only 5.5% of Indian Engineers Qualified in Basic Programming: Report

This is what happens when college forces students to write even html code on paper . 
 30% of students in my class don't even have laptop but have iphone

Journalist

Linkedin has become  a place where people post about cracking tech interviews without any tech discussion. Every guy with or without MAANG gives guidance to clear interviews but none of them posts a single stuff about the tech itself.
Cracking tech interviews in India has become hype like JEE.

Interview Cringe on Linkedin

This is something that helped me a lot during my Engineering days and some of it I even used during my job. It is great to work through these problems out of curiosity as it builds great intuition around computing and algorithms.

This course provides an introduction to mathematical modeling of computational problems.

MIT 6.006 Introduction to Algorithms, Fall 2011

[Thread] Share resources to the best content you would recommend to someone trying to learn more about Software Engineering?

Product Manager

I am a fresher 2023 graduate and have been doing this (applying for jobs) for almost a year, everyone said you have to do internships as it is necessary so did 2 internships one for a year and another for 6 months but apparently no one counts internships as experience even jobs that had 1-3 yoe as requirement and now everyone's hiring 2024 grads as freshers (I tried to look for another internship but there were none during the time of placements).

I am now tired of this field, many full stack devs don't know shit outside Javascript world and many of them can't even use tools like git properly and are so cocky of themselves. 

Saw an SDE on twitter who apparently has 6 years of experience, doesn't even know how to configure multiple SSH and says managing multiple ssh is a downside. A women dev (cause in India you have engineers and female engineers apparently) doesn't know about sidebar cache and calls it a bug and she's in google. and If I try to roast these people with my real name there's a whole cabal of Banglorians who will grab their macbooks inside third wave coffee and start tweeting against me after aggressively drinking their Chocolate mocha frappe.

Just go into any random tech twitter space no one seems to be talking about tech it's always about DSA, interviews, LIFE IN BANGLORE, which cafe they visited.

I let myself believe tech was my passion and worked hard  for but Indian techies and companies are worst, this generation thinks they are better than their predecessor but follow the same politics everywhere even when it comes to Tech communities (who tf does politics in a community that produces open source code wtf).

They talk about networking and creating a community all the time but can't even respond to linkedin cold dm and blame the sender by nitpicking about the format 👏👏 and then they'll go on post the screenshot and rant how it's the sender fault to even try to network with them with a message that isn't written from their own blood.

Tech rant

Bangalore tech scene is weird man. I feel even the auto driver knows how to code and the third wave barista is definitely doing leetcode because that coffee & sandwich clearly don't take 15 minutes to make

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