SparklyWaffle
SparklyWaffle

Layoffs - who do you blame?

Just an open ended question on why are layoffs happening on such a scale. I personally feel the skill to salary ratio has fucked up so much lately that the companies are having to fire people who are essentially useless to them. More of liabilities than just assets! What do you think?

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BouncyBiscuit
BouncyBiscuit

Absolutely agreed. Hiring in hordes because money was easily available earlier and founders/companies thought that they will be able to build more and hence get more value / valuation sooner was the core reason why the skill to salary ratio got f’ed up. And it’s good that it’s being reset now.

Coming to who to blame for layoffs - no one. It’s pure capitalism - there was money, hence there were jobs. For whatever time people got paid a lot more than they deserved - they should be rather thankful. If they built their life around the assumption that this much money was the new normal, it was their naïveté. Companies got to survive, and they have to do whatever has to be done… as long as it’s ethical. Firing is fine. Not paying salaries / dues is not.

SparklyWaffle
SparklyWaffle

Yes completely agree. As far as my mind goes or whatever I’ve read, in the tech industry at least, firing has always been there for a very long time but job switching or lateral hiring is somewhat of a modern thing. Talent poaching became a thing, which again I think is fine, but overvaluing something became a new norm and that’s where things going south.
Hopefully industry stabilises sooner rather than later.

MagicalPanda
MagicalPanda

How do you measure the skill to salary ratio? And who gets to decide the ratio is high

Microsoft’s revenue per employee close to 1M while they pay 50-100k for even top talent. If anything we are underpaid lol

MagicalPanda
MagicalPanda

Layoffs in big tech are unnecessary. Instead of spending valuable time and money on lay offs to save 10-15% cost they could have easily just increased their revenue by that amount

QuirkyNugget
QuirkyNugget

It's not that easy to increase the revenue because of the general slowdown. Big tech wouldn't be able to charge the same amount they used to charge their clients.

BouncyBiscuit
BouncyBiscuit

It’s just plain naive to say this. “Just easily increased revenue”… that doesn’t happen so easily even in good times, forget when the global economy is unpredictable and in shambles.

WigglyMarshmallow
WigglyMarshmallow
Cisco15mo

Inverted yield curve in the US

ZestyBagel
ZestyBagel

only correct answer

SqueakyWalrus
SqueakyWalrus

Yeah lol. Everyone blaming skills and all. But not understanding the basic of economics.

BouncyDonut
BouncyDonut

Founders at mistake. They said they are doing layoff to do the cost cutting but at the same time they will draw salaries in Cr

WobblyNugget
WobblyNugget
Swiggy15mo

So? You become a founder ceo and draw salary of 1cr. See if it is deserving or not then

BouncyDonut
BouncyDonut

It doesn’t matter if deserving or not but its simple that if you can lower your salaries in tough time and retain few employees then you need to do. You dont need to be in swiggy to know this basic (though some people in swiggy doesn’t have that basic sense)

ZestyBagel
ZestyBagel

You guys are the Fools Of Randomness.

You think you got jobs because you had skills? Wrong. You got jobs because the US government distributed free money for the last 10 years and that money flew into other countries from the US. That was the funding your useless startup got.

Now, the money is not free anymore. The money which flew to other countries is going back to the US.

Don't get ahead of yourselves. We are at the mercy of the US Feds.

ZestySushi
ZestySushi

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