So My Team has two leads mapped due to some personal favours from Manager as they are comfortable here.  In my team everyone has its own deliverables doesn't matter if he's an associate or team lea...

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So My Team has two leads mapped due to some personal favours from Manager as they are comfortable here. 
In my team everyone has its own deliverables doesn't matter if he's an associate or team lead.
Few days back they tried reaching out to everyone for bandwidth. Everyone denied due to limited bandwidth . 

So they dropped an email copying manager that we'll have to give hourly updates to them everyday and they will also review our deliverables signoff.

This really sucks. If any higher level folk is reading this , could you please guide us on how can we deal with this situation. As now they will escalate there work on our head.

Micromanagement at its peak

System Engineer

Micromanagement at its peak- Grapevine

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I have a senior in my team who considers herself a manager, when she's not. She's just my senior.  She will ping me 100 times in a day and delegate me more tasks before even before the first one is complete. She knows nothing about how work is done as she keeps delegating it to others. If I don't respond she keeps calling and she calls me in the middle of the night too. I have a really cool manager who doesn't ping me daily, will only ask for the deliverables on the deadline. I would have ignored my senior as she's not really the manager but she is the manager's pet. I have seen her delegate tasks to her seniors as well. It's been only a month since I have joined. Any advice on how do I deal with this? It's getting really frustrating.

Micro Manager

Associate Consultant

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My manager, while not technically inclined, oversees an engineering team, making it challenging to update him on intricate scenarios beyond his expertise. He tends to consult his former team, unrelated to our current one, for guidance when he doesn't grasp the situation. Additionally, he organizes meetings with external parties for minor issues, leaving little time for our team to devise solutions. He often proposes numerous ideas that exceed our current bandwidth. His commitments to higher-ups and clients sometimes involve unusual deliverables. While I don't view him negatively, there's a misalignment within our team. How can I navigate this situation?"

Dealing with non tech Manager.

Data engineer

How to deal with a manager who instructs every bit of your work, takes technical decisions on their own without any consultation with the team, tries to breath down everyone’s necks, follows daily deadlines, work checkins 3 times in a day, irrespective of jira being in place, does not appreciate work, tries to eat credit and cries foul for smallest of issues?

Micro Management

Software Engineer

It's been a year I'm working with one company that has good name. But everymonth I have 40% of the time where I work more than 11+hrs (with food and all activities I work 16 hrs sometimes)

How do You guys balance this?

I tried balancing this but my manager and lead are telling that I'm not taking taking ownership these days. Earlier when I used to work more I delivered on time and took lot of ownership. But when I work less and do just my work or logout after 10 hrs it's affecting this.

Happened with anyone?

Working hours at MNC (Fortune 500) MAANG

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In my corporate experience, I have observed two kinds of leaders - 1) A hard task master, very high on IQ but more often than not low on EQ and 2) High on EQ, above avg on IQ. I as a manager/ leader fall under 2) and usually get work done without authority but I do experience at times, some peers and reportees taking advantage of my behaviour

 In my view, anecdotally I see type 1) leaders succeed more in corporates even if it comes at the cost of facing flak/hate from directs/indirects. One of my previous managers was unpopular for his toxicity but somehow I kind of built a decent bond with him. Once over drinks and dinner, he candidly told me, I'm not here in this organization for making friends and I'm here only to get results and he did deliver on results every year.

My question is, can type 2 leaders even climb up the ladder specially where cut throat competition exists. Sometimes I do feel I need to be more like type 1 leaders obviously not at the cost of toxicity - disrespect, shouting etc. 

What are your thoughts?

Task Master vs Empathetic leader

Program Manager

I am fed up with people who try to steal other people’s credit. Be it your manager, your colleague or anyone how do you avoid them from taking your credit for the work you have done. Worst part is seeing them try hard to showcase it as their own. What do you all suggest for such situations?

Avoiding people who feed on other’s credit

Software Developer

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Saw multiple people are leaving organisation, looking for change.

What's happening in Razorpay ?

Amazon dude joined as CTO and is f**king everyone up.

As the title suggests, does it make sense to talk about a colleagues’s inability to deliver to my manager. The colleague’s incompetence to take ownership is very evident now to everyone and the manager is not taking any steps on it. Others have to basically cleanup and babysit him. Worse part, this colleague gets paid the highest in the team. At this point it’s just breeding resentment across the team. How to handle this situation? Any tips. Early stage startup, the manager is part of the founding team.

Should you confront your manager about a colleague’s incompetence?

Do not get involved. Try to minimise your own additional work due to that colleague. In one-to-one meeting with manager, let the manager know. Use the words: I just wanted to bring your attention to one more matter. Then describe the challenges that you face. Not your team. Do not gang up, do not conspire or collaborate. Do not mention about how other colleagues feel the same way. If your manager takes a negative opinion of these activity, you'll be fucked, because such a thing would create a negative impression. If the manager is not inclined to go by your judgement of your colleague's competence, you'll lose face. But it's much easier to control the narrative and restore your manager's confidence in you in a one-on-one conversation, than when it's a group mutiny. No matter what others tell you, do not get encouraged. People often sound like they're with you, but they often are not. They won't back their statements, and you'll be alone holding the bag. And moreover, if you stay out of it, you'll be able to carry the high ground of being above the fray, out of politics, and being balanced. Don't do netagiri of this sort. Conserve it for initiatives for which getting consensus is harder. It might be possible that you're the only one feeling so strongly about it. Then you may be in need of a weekend, or someone to vent to, or even therapy. But get your hate in check.

Product Manager

Generalist

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I'm working as an APM at a startup for about a year now. I work with another guy who happens to be my senior, PM and both of us report to the director.

Of late, my senior, i.e., the PM has been undermining my work when the two of us are working together, subtly taunting me that what I've done is pretty easy and non impactful business wise. He also disregards the decisions made by me, modifies the PRDs discovered and written by me and mails them as his own.

Eventually, he ends up adding me to the walkthrough calls because I had discovered the features but then concludes everything such that he had owned everything end to end.

Recently, both of us were given a documentation to be done by our manager, i.e., the director. I had completed almost 70% of that document, but in our call with the director he presented it saying that he had written that document and I had made a few changes to it.

This undermines my work and visibility of my capabilities. I don't know how to tackle this situation, my manager is usually busy and leaves it upto this PM to allocate work, which he unfairly uses.

How do I talk to my manager about this. I'm fairly new to corporate, just graduated last year and don't know how to handle all this.

But this thing has been bothering me lately, really looking forward to any advise my fellow grapeviners may have.

Senior taking credit for my work

You definitely need to talk to the director and share your concerns . Possibly separate out projects and independently handle them.

how do you guys deal with managers setting up unrealistic deadlines? My manager without even consulting the team about efforts required gave the estimated completion date of the project which is impossible to deliver by that time. I tried to reason with him several times about extending the timeline but he doesn't listen at all. what should i do in this case?

unrealistic deadlines

Analyst

This is just a prediction based on what I've been observing recently. Founder is publishing a lot of self ego boosting articles and aggressively hiring currently.

This has been going on for quite some time and they recently did some layoffs too!

These are some of the early signs when things start to go wrong.

Not sure about their numbers. And even though Indians really love gold it's not an investment. It's a hedge. 

Let's see what happens in the next 12 months.

Prediction - The next startup to fall will be Jar

Our team has hired a new PM who is a huge micro manager. We don't really have a sprint planning so all the tasks are decided based on availability. Tasks that do come from him are of unrealistic deadline and most of them need to be done by EOD even if the task comes in at 7pm. Dude just mentally skips the time needed for testing and other processes. Also constant pings regarding the status updates is really frustrating. This is one of those bad PM/Managers meme cone true. I would have quit if I was not in a bond until next year July. Need some tips on how to survive this asswipe for the next 9-10 months without being under constant stress and going into severe depression.

Surviving unrealistic expectations

[Thread] How is your Manager?

Growth Manager

The experienced colleague in my office is not supportive. How do I make her favourable to me ? She don't like work collaboratively when managers assigns a task for us. When I ask her she used to say Sir have not said to me do that.

So During our scum calls with client my manager  gives update for whole team himself and doesnt let us update on the task which we have worked on ourself . Mf just grabs all the glory  in pursuit for good feedback from client side   meanwhile he does nothing technical  and during internal meeting he says you guys should speak more with client  and ALSO he ask for everyone's update on task before scrum and then pokes why is it not done even on task whose estimated completion  date/time is far away. 

So annoying and frustating .

Just a rant from your average software dev . 
Do give any solution you might have . 🙂
Thanks for reading.

Down bad manager ! Glory hunter.

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

It can be either a strange workplace policy, an altercation with a manager or absolutely anything else.

What's the most toxic incident you've come across at your workplace?

Consultant

Hey Viners, would like to know your prespective on the situation that if you face a bunch of incompetent colleagues who dont take their work seriously and the manager constantly asks you to maintain quality because of your seniority and you end up cleaning their work, how do you handle it ?

Few Incompetent colleagues

Create a toxic work environment for them that they leave themselves ☺️

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