User empathy pro Maxx   Guys do you think this is done really to bring the issues or to gain traction. Not against this but everyone is trying to bcome ek din ka uber wla and Zomato wla etc . It's ...

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User empathy pro Maxx 
 Guys do you think this is done really to bring the issues or to gain traction. Not against this but everyone is trying to bcome ek din ka uber wla and Zomato wla etc . It's clear hyper local delivery, uber ola etc.  hire them as contractors and not as employee proves the whole point of keeping comapny asset light and not think of thier delivery guys too much. Attached is one such link
Share your thoughts guys about this??


https://theprint.in/feature/around-town/bengaluru-woman-delivers-for-blinkit-to-test-10-minute-deadline-chaos-on-stores-roads/2211907/

New trend after ek din ka - Ek din ka delivery wla

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New trend after ek din ka - Ek din ka delivery wla- Grapevine

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- Ola is entering the $5-billion quick commerce market, competing with Blinkit, Swiggy Instamart, Zepto, and Flipkart Minute.
- At its 'Sankalp' event, Ola explained its dark store concept, aiming to cut order processing time from four minutes to under one minute using automation.
- The quick commerce sector has become indispensable, with rapid growth since 2021, according to UBS analysts.
- Blinkit has been crucial to Zomato's growth, while Zepto is raising $1 billion, showing strong investor confidence.
- Ola's Bhavish Aggarwal plans to use robots in dark stores, unlike competitors who rely on human labor. 

 Source: [Moneycontrol](https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/companies/quick-commerce-wars-to-intensify-as-ola-enters-blinkit-swiggy-instamart-zepto-and-flipkart-minutes-turf-12797486.html)

Ola Enters Quick Commerce Market, Challenging Blinkit, Swiggy Instamart, Zepto, and Flipkart Minute

Journalist

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There are essentially four parties in the startup economy:

1. The Consumer
2. The Enabler(read, Startup)
3. The Service Provider
4. The Investor

Now let's look at Game Theory motivations:

1. The Indian Consumer wants to minimise money spent per unit value extracted, the Western Consumer wants to maximise value extracted per unit money spent. (There's a massive difference.)

2. The Startup depending on the stage wants to maximise User Growth and Free Cash Flows.

3. The Service provider wants to maximise financial incentives.

4. The Investor is wants to maximise the XIRR of their fund. For this they need to reach a multibagger liquidity event.

Now let's look at what happens when:

1. The Consumer gets f'ed over: 

The startup attains pricing power through deep competitive moats allowing for monopolisation. They can jack up the prices to ensure nice FCF, greater rewards for Service Providers and great returns to their investors. (Think, Uber can charge anything to you now)

2. The Startup gets f'ed over: 

The users get bang for their buck, the service providers get good incentives, the investors push for higher growth but unfortunately the startup does not have enough capital to service their Cost of Operations through their unit economics, so they will either run out of cash or investor patience. Either ways, they are doomed. (Think every legit startup that failed)

3. The Service Provider get f'ed over: 

This is the likeliest scenario as they have the least power in this dynamic. Rewards will be reduced over time or made harder to achieve. They have no option because they got no option for sustenance. (Think any on-demand service providing app)

4. The investor gets f'ed over: 

Now imagine there is a startup that can balance the act very well. They have a service that users are willing to pay a margin on. They pay their service providers fairly and have decent unit economics. Now, the investor will do halla about destruction of shareholder value from little growth. (Is this the case with BluSmart?)

Maybe that's why building in India is tough.

[Rant] Here's why someone usually ends up f'ed over, for a startup to get successful in India

Product Manager

Some three dudes on Twitter launched an app swish in HSR. This is getting out of hand now, do we really need chai to be delivered in 10 minutes?

saw some of the tweets posting about how they got delivery in 10-min. I think we are lacking great ideas in the ecosystem.

Came across another 10-mins delivery app in blr, Is it really needed?

Software Developer

How important is Blinkit to Zomato? How long will the 10 min delivery burn games go on for? 

Any insider POVs?

Blinkit - Zomato

Business operations

CCPA is investigating OlaElectric for service deficiencies,  unfair trade practices and consumer rights violations and has accused the company for  “deficiency in service” and “issues with refunds”, after receiving thousands of complaints about service delays.

🚨Just in! OLA gets show-cause notice for class action

Bro please take 30 mins and cook the food fresh. If I had to eat in 10 mins, I'll buy ready to eat and heat

Do we really need 10-min food delivery?

Consultant

https://inc42.com/buzz/zomato-pilots-last-mile-deliveries-for-office-goers-inside-corporate-parks/

Great initiative by Zomato this. Will make their deliveries a lot more efficient and probably make better economics too.

Product Owner

Lately, I’ve been skipping the whole Swiggy and Zomato thing and just heading out to eat instead. It’s not that I don’t appreciate the convenience of ordering in—I’ve definitely had my fair share of lazy nights where it’s been a lifesaver. But honestly, it’s starting to feel like a rip-off.

Prices are insane. I get that I’m paying for convenience, but come on—why am I paying almost 1.5x for the same meal after discounts? I’ll scroll through, add a few things to the cart, and suddenly it’s this inflated bill that makes me wonder if I’m secretly ordering for two people.

And the food? It’s just better when you have it fresh. Take California Burrito, for example. There’s something about eating it hot at the store that just hits different. You lose that magic when it’s been sitting in a delivery bag for 30 minutes. The freshness, the crunch—it all just fades. (@BertMueller I had this epiphany when I was at your Indiranagar store to redeem my CBGV50♥️)

Then there’s the over-ordering thing. We’ve all been there — trying to hit that minimum cart value for free delivery. So, you end up adding extra sides or desserts you didn’t even want in the first place. When you dine out, you eat exactly what you want, no forced add-ons.

Plus, heading out for a meal is a mini escape. You walk, you get out of the house, and it’s a lot more fun than sitting in your shorts waiting for the doorbell. Even the simple act of being out in the world adds something to the experience.

So yeah, I’ve been choosing dining out over delivery more and more. Better food, better value, and you avoid that weird guilt from spending too much on a cold meal.

P.S. DM me for local bangalore joints, have an entire list ready - let me know what area in DMs :)

Dining Out >>> Ordering In

Investor

Slow and steady wins the race!

Now imagine, we did not have Zomato, Swiggy, Blinkit, Zepto, Dunzo (its pretty much there)
What would your next bet be?
Well 
1. You have some of your local grocery stores who would deliver for you, but it might take a bit of time 1-2 hrs etc. and you need to build a relation, and only some stores do that
2. Restaurants need to have delivery available who if anyone remembers, it was a pain to coordinate, sometimes they dont do beyond 3 kms. You will have to go on your own. Which will also cost you money. Restaurant deliveries usually have a delivery fee, plus the cost of food. There is still a lot of coordination involved to get what you want. Brochures, phone number etc. 
3. Having a full time person who will do all of these for you, Building tends to have someone who also delivers ( like a chotu or someone )

So lets take the cost of 3 for now if you needed full time
1. Monthly cost - ~ Rs. 10,000 - 15,000 if you needed full time
2. What are you spending on swiggy etc?
 1. No of times you are ordering: lets say twice a day
  1. 2 * 30 * 20 = Rs. 1200
  2. Lets say total amount you are paying is 10000 in amount
  3. Some folks might even argue that you restaurenters are charging 30% extra. ( lets say 30% on 10,000 ). 
  4. So lets factor in 3000 Rs more, so we have total sum, 4200 now.
  5. Time saved = 20 * 15 minutes = 5 hrs a month

So we saw three choices
You can do things on your own
5 hrs of your own time ( which does not cover your cost to move around, so if anyone does not have a vehicle, they have to either walk more, or pay for auto etc )
Spending on convenience Rs. 4200 
Spending if you had a chotu - Rs.10,000. This is debatable, you can argue, this person can also will end up cleaning and doing 3-4 other things.

Some will also say restaurants mark to and sell. My request to you is, even with all the markup how much extra are you paying. And then compare to your alternatives before them.
If someone has a better math or see any flaws in this. share input

For the folks who complain about charges by Swiggy/Zomato etc

Founder’s office

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This is a big big number

I can imagine situations where I would pay. But this will just end up increasing delivery time on free delivery, won't it? Ultimately bad for users, but this was always gonna happen, and it's a smart way of doing it I guess.

Zomato brings quicker delivery at extra cost to BLR/Mumbai

Operations Manager

Can you guys deliver Samosa/Vadapav in 10 mins ?

Feature Request for Zepto Blinkit

Software Engineer

I am currently building Kirana.Pro an anti Zepto model where we don’t have any dark stores. Instead we partner with nearby Kirana stores. What do you think of this idea? Can it win like how Namma Yatri won against Ola and Uber?

Anti Zepto model by partnering with Kiranas

At this point it's just Boot Licking Delivery app founders.
How come the opinion of a sample size of 1000 *young people* who are not even gig workers, get to be representative of whether gig worker unions should have right to bargain wages.

Everyone knows how harsh and unsafe the working conditions of delivery partners/gig workers are. On top of it now these companies are squeezing their wages to become profitable.

Not trying to moral police folks who order food and groceries online(even I do it), but this is just not sustainable. Sometimes it just feels wrong someone is traveling 5+ kms just to deliver me food and the guy/gal is not even being compensated properly.

And the below article is definitely not journalism or even reporting.

Link to article: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yourstory-com_most-indian-workers-say-no-to-gig-drivers-activity-7121039458933620736-qRVQ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

Another low from YourStory

- Rapido, a ride-hailing unicorn, is exploring the quick commerce sector in India, competing with Blinkit, Swiggy Instamart, and Flipkart's Minutes.
- The Bengaluru-based company is in preliminary talks with Zepto and grocers like Pincode and KPN to strengthen its position in the market.
- Nexus Venture Partners, a common investor in Rapido and Zepto, is facilitating these discussions.
- Rapido recently became a unicorn, raising $200 million in its Series E funding round, led by WestBridge Capital.
- The company currently operates in over 100 cities, handling 2.5 million orders per day across bike taxis, autos, and cabs. 

 Source: [Inc42](https://inc42.com/buzz/flush-with-fresh-funds-rapido-seeks-to-ride-the-quick-commerce-wave/)

Rapido Eyes Quick Commerce Amid Fierce Competition

Hi folks, 

I'm Aadit, Co-Founder & CEO at Zepto. We're one of India's fastest growing consumer internet companies and are today present across 10+ cities in the country. 

I'd love to chat with you folks about my journey in building Zepto, my thoughts on the quick commerce space, organization building, amongst other things.

Ask away!

I'm Aadit Palicha, Co-Founder & CEO at Zepto. Ask me anything!

Founder

A famous food delivery start up in Bengaluru lost its best CTO and someone like local politician SvP made it to the top. Many of us not feeling ok to work due to political nature and way the review meetings conducted. Favouring some group and condemning other group to the core. What would you do?

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