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Consultant

Senior Consultant

When I see PMP, my mind reads "Pimp".  
  
 Just had to let this thought out.

😂😂 
 Bro woke up and chose violence.

Founder

Product Manager

They contribute almost nothing. Specially PMP and Scrum Master. ChatGPT can do their jobs easily and it will get automated in an year or 2

Software Engineer

Growth Manager

Hey PMs,  For program/product/project management, pmp or agile is important in 2024?  Please explain the difference between above and if possible share any legit thread if already available on GV o...

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Hey PMs,

For program/product/project management, pmp or agile is important in 2024?

Please explain the difference between above and if possible share any legit thread if already available on GV or reditt

PMP or Agile relevant in 2024

PMP or Agile relevant in 2024- Grapevine

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As a PM I would say it is to delivery high quality product in less time. 🕰️

What is the biggest problem you face in your daily job? Please mention your role as well.

Today a poll was conducted in my WhatsApp group for people who are planning for ms by the fall 2025 at US that wha roles are they targeting post their masters and majority of them are voted for product management so I want to ask is the product management is becoming new norm or it's just fomo among engineering grads like it was for software development 2-4 yrs back. Also what's the future of PMs in terms of salary, growth with advancement in AI tools

The PM trend

Is PMP still relevant?

Program Manager

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What's the scope of "Product Marketing" in India and global as well. Is it a growing field?

Product Marketing - Good or Bad?

Product Marketing Manager

FAANG requires PMP for project management ?

Data Scientist

Hi Folks, anyone aware of any company that does not follow conventional Agile and are more open to different approaches in development methodology??

Any company not following Agile?

I am a PM with 4 YOE and have been applying for PM and SPM roles. However, have been facing rejections and the reason they say is my problem solving in case studies was not structured as we'd like.

Are there any experienced PM here who can help me with a few pointers on what the companies are looking at for such roles and if there are any resources that I can make use of to become better.

PM jobs preparation resources

Software Developer

Just want to know how much technical is the PM's on GV. PM's need not code but are you a technically comfortable prod man if you haven't transitioned from comp sci / engg background.

PM's which end of spectrum do you fall into?

Associate Product Manager

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

What are some of the most relevant alternate career tracks for a PM?

Would you rather be an Engineer learning how to Product or a Product Manager learning how to Engineer?

Ask me anything except my company name, or things that can reveal my identity. I may respectfully choose not to respond to your question based on my own judgement.

Here’s a brief intro about me: I’ve worked as both software engineering manager & software technical architect over the last 18+ years on various tech stacks managing backend, frontend and a little bit of cloud. I have seen ups and downs in the software industry. Currently I’m working as a senior architect in one of the product based companies in India.

I’ve been an Engineering Manager before. Ask me anything.

Software Architect

I am 4 years of QA who handles almost all prospects in product (Both manual and automation) . I tried to switch to PM and learnt PM principles and created portfolio. But now I am in dilemma that switching to PM or QA in the rapidly changing technology environment .

Kindly suggest me some insights

PM or QA in this Rapid Changing Period

Do you think product management would still be relevant? Have you thought of any fallback career options?

Where do you see product management in next 5-10 years?

What are the possible pathways to take for a BA transitioning into Product Manager role?

Any courses/guidelines will be helpful.

Transition to PM

Business Analyst

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Query- what do PMs on grapevine think about product management

Grapevine is the place where i have heard so much about PM. I can understand what it is but what are the skills required to get into it . Coding  Language or analytical or btech or MBA or what,? State it like you are telling it to a commerce grad. Thanks.

What is PM? What's the requisite skill set?

Analyst

AMA: PM with 3.5 YoE , 40L TC , Tier 2 BTech

Senior Product Manager

Consultant, Investment Banking went from sought after careers to fads post 2008 crisis when the world realized that these folks are crooks due to their role in propogating the Great Financial Crisis.

Given the backlash tech companies has been getting and global layoffs, will Product Manager also become a passing fad?

Seeing lot of anti Product Manager sentiment on this app off late. Was Product Management also a fad?

Someone here said engineers can become PM but PM can't become engineers. It can't be more correct than this. But reality is, it sounds goods only in theory.  
  
  I asked this same question to my director, why have you hired us when engineers clearly know more about products than us and are capable?  His answered that before the organisation formally created a team of product managers, it was only engineers that were handling product for decades. But that resulted into substandard products being developed, chaotic product release and consistent drop in revenue. The reason being engineers became backlog managers and engineers beging engineers, never focused on business value. Instead, they focused on technical aspect heavily. Engineers never bothered to check if what they were developing will actually sell in the market or not.  
  
 And mind you, this was a product that all of us use in daily lives. The numbers of users in India alone would be millions. So to summarise, yes, engineers can become PMs but generally they stay loyal to their pedigree of BE/B.Tech and become very shitty PMs. They like to have more technical conversations than strategic discussions and hate things that are not quantifiable, subjective. And business facing people here in forum would know, things are always not quantifiable in business planning, market outlook. It is based on assumptions.  
  
 An excellent PM would be someone who is an engineer but knows how to focus on business value of the product, make it customer oriented etc. I had the pleasure of working of one such PM in my last stint and he was truly outstanding. CEO knew him personally and this is in an organization with thousands of employees

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