This is ok in personal relationship. 
In Office, never agree its broken. Always fight it out that this is how it was to be in the first  place. or this is how they  wanted it.  Never say  sorry , always find someone to blame. 

Remember - "never take up your boss's headache"

Haha this is what I have seen.  
 Accepting mistakes was new for me

Consultant

Experienced it for the first time – the concept of accepting mistakes. Didn't know this was a concept or it had a term.  Example  Manager  This broke. Employee  I think it may be because I did some...

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Experienced it for the first time – the concept of accepting mistakes. Didn't know this was a concept or it had a term.

Example- 
Manager - This broke.
Employee - I think it may be because I did something

Next step - Fix the broken.

Don't have to say sorry explicitly when you already mean it. Simple. This is the right form of ownership.

It's something no one taught us. We have been molded the other way
- Broke a cup, point to our siblings
- Misplaced information on presentation, give excuses on how hectic schedule is

It's true, startup culture is going to change the world.
Babe wake up, it came to India too!

P.S. If this culture comes natural at your workplace, you may not realize how much less stressed your employees are.

The Blameless Culture

The Blameless Culture- Grapevine

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They have no life
They have nowhere to go
They have no one to be with
They have no passions outside work either

And they make your life hell as they become the baseline for comparison for all sorts of management from appraisal to work distribution.

Feel free to disagree with me, but I’m genuinely pissed today. How do you deal with them? I have a decent life outside work but lose most of it while trying to catchup to such people so that I don’t get fired.

Sorry for the title.

How the F do I deal with overworkers?

I'm also like this brother. But why I work like this? 
 I come from a small village in India . Haven't got proper education or exposure. Not born with silver spoon and this is the only way to feed our family. We too have emotions like you, but sacrificing everything for our future and family. I strongly disagree with @Elon_Musk. Usually, only people who don't work hard do like that.

Product Designer

Software Engineer

I go through multiple posts every day. Every one is cursing their company. The bosses are bad. Managers suck. Company is fraud. Is it always the company, managers , bosses at fault. How can we create better work environment in Indian Startup’s.?

Cursing the Indian Startups

As everyone knows that zomato is now hiring 800 employees after two months of a mass layoff, and exit of senior profiles like VP and CTO.

Let me tell you the truth about the founder. He is an opportunist. He doesn't give a shit about the culture or any employee. The company is built on the death of many riders and cheating with low-wage workers.

Timing- Isn't it a bit weird that a company that did a mass layoff two months back is now hiring? Seeing that many employees got laid off from the top-tier company. It is a great time to employ smart folks as the hiring competition in the market is at its lowest. Or the mass layoff that happened previously was planned with the thought of hiring again next year with very little competition and desperate candidates. 

Layoff: In zomato, it's hire and fire culture. I have seen many of my friends leave even after performing well. Honestly, sometimes I don't even feel human. It's expected from employees to start their day early and go late at night. If you want to leave early (around 6 or 7), you should have a solid reason for doing that. Here code release happens late at night due to less traffic. So it's expected of you to be available all the time.

Incompetent Managers- I have worked with two managers here. Both know the existing system as they were once an IC building that system. The issue with these people is that they grew up the ladder because they were the only ones left behind in the team. They lack real-world system knowledge. I have previously worked at amazon, and I know the team lead level there. But here it's like jo ruk gaya vo raja hai. It's hard to work with these people as they lack proper estimations of the projects and at the end of the day. The ICs have to face the wrath of the product teams.

People who are planning to join the company. Please do join, as working 24/7 you would learn a lot in a very short period of time. Also, the culture is team dependent, so you might get a team with chill environment.

Reality check at Zomato

Founder

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Apart from monetary dissatisfaction, when will you think of resigning from current PM role?

In PM role, when do you feel it's time to switch?

Product Manager

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With the recent EY episode, I thought I'll pen down some thoughts, having gone through something similar last year. 

1) It's ok to blame the companies, but I feel nothing will change fundamentally. We are mostly a service based nation and given our population, we go through so much competition that survival becomes our key goal. It's easy to make sweeping statements like one should not take shit and just quit, but it's easier said than done. 

2) I personally do not have a moon shot idea to change things, but I sincerely request the community to look after your near and dear ones. I was lucky to have my close ones and parents who actually forced me to change my habits and also take a break at the right time(I was working 14 hours non stop for 6 months, without any acknowledgement/appreciation, I was mostly depressed, started smoking 10-15 cigarettes/day and drank alcohol alone 4 times a week). An individual sometimes doesn't realise how he or she is hurting their physical or mental well being, it is others who could notice better and force you to do something to improve your life. Instead of always giving advice, hear the person out and try to pull out the inner feelings. I 

3) To all individuals who are facing a burn out or a career low in general, talk to close ones and just manage to do some exercise please(lifting weights is amazing), I guarantee, you'll feel 50% better. 

4) After working in multiple companies, I've realised it's impossible to get the ideal life/wl balance, you can draw lines but again easier said than done. You need to manage the stress somehow, exercise has been the only effective solution right now (a basic walk can also do wonders), but I'm happy to know from others if anything else has helped (apart from hobbies, talking to your close ones etc.)

I wish some labour laws could be brought in and implemented soon, but again, at the cost of being pessimistic I don't see that happening. Cheers and have a great weekend everyone!

Work Culture in India

The mentality and attitude of Indian managers is the reason such things keep happening.what is missing in them is empathy.empathy for their colleagues and sub ordinates.they promote slave culture.make their sub ordinates work like slaves which will help them get more bonus and hike because managers are incompetent to earn that on their own.people management is no more a skill.when you see a incompetent manager start questioning them early with the whys and hows. It's not an easy game .bootlicking and buttering is promoted in india.

Software Developer

Program Manager

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Just moved from a WFH startup to a Full WFO legacy corporate company.

These corpo people talk so much, too much restrictions to get access or to create a MVP, a lot of unnecessary paperwork/ email loops.

I feel sleepy all day and these people find and make you speak hell lot making me confused and feeling that I have done no work and what will I say about deliverables 🥲.


Side note: renovation going on so not getting any corner + the setting are like this getting it is difficult 😭

Any suggestions or I am over reacting 😄

Rant and Feeling confused

Is this guy for real?

I am a 6 yrs experienced Software developer and part of a mid-stage startup. This is my third job; I have been working here for 3 years. I was involved here as one of the core engineers at the start in developing the overall platform, After that, my growth as an engineer stagnated for 2 years . 

Constant importance and priority are given to business requirements and hacky work getting pushed to production in the name of fast iterations and business impact every week. 

My engineering manager lacks proper engineering skills and doesn't respect engineers even after their impact on the company and constantly keeps saying the engineering team doesn't contribute to the revenue of the company despite us pushing work that improves business positively. 

Last year around November, around 80% of the engineering team was subtly suggested to start looking out for work (basically a soft layoff) because management was too scared of a social media backlash

Due to all this,2 years' worth of technical debt has accumulated on the overall codebase and apart from giving justification for every code improvement that we try to make there, we still have to work on business/product requirements. 

My growth as an engineer has stopped and I am worried about missing out on the latest developments in the tech industry, especially with AI in the picture, and want to make my skillset somewhat AI-proof. I have come back to hands-on coding this year , so that's a positive start. I am considering taking a 3-4 month break after resigning from my company to study, develop side projects, develop a portfolio etc

Has anyone else been in this boat ? How did you come out strong?

Side Effects of working at startups

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Can anyone share for the benefit of those who are keen to avoid making mistakes..

Start up with most Toxic Work Culture

Growth Manager

I recently worked at a startup and it was terrible. 

To be honest, I still worked at one of the better ones but it just sucked. 

Some of the clear downsides I see 

- Survival mode leads to chaos. You can be treated anyway and asked to leave whenever  even though you left big opportunities to be here 
- Brand loss to find next job (Big problem)
- Trying to make you feel unworthy(Doesn't bother me but I have seen people lose self confidence)
- Loss of opportunity to build real skills like building sustainable teams for the long run

I think over all working at a startup especially early teams is a losing proposition. Do it only if -
 - you know the founders/team well 
- you know the industry and market well and it is a bet you personally believe in
- you are secure enough in life that if you go back to your job, you will easily get employed 


For middle class kids, startups are the worst bets one can take.

Working at startups is terrible

I am starting up soon. I care about working on meaningful problems, with good people and building the right culture. 

Have been hearing from a lot of folks about culture problems in startups. Seems more of a norm rather than an exception. 

Curious to know why do startup culture degrade? What pitfalls should I avoid to create a healthy culture?

Why do startup culture go bad?

Product Marketing Manager

Hello all! 
I am working as HR Head in a growth stage startup in Bangalore. So many people here talk about compensation, culture, growth etc. Happy to answer questions related to HR/Culture/Startups.

People & Culture Manager

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Hi all,

I felt that in recent 3-5 years the working culture and forced work are increasing in India due to stress, demotivation, and frequent change of jobs happening. 

Any proper solution to unite and we raise it to the right platform.

#Flipkart #Rapido #Ecom #Zomato #Swiggy #Amazon and all logistics and supply chains.

Indian company working culture getting worst

The startup culture is so toxic these days, they literally treat people like slaves now. Hiring krte time team team krenge lekin fir attitude aisa ki jaise mazdoor ho jo dihadi lene aagye ho roz, idk if its the case everywhere but i experienced it in 2 startups in NCR.

Toxic startup culture

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I'm surprised to see on the comment section that people actually support this load of crap. 

To any newbies or freshers entering tech this year, don't follow this advice. These CEOs exploit your time to gain revenue and when the time is not good they wouldn't think twice before considering layoffs. Just do your job and go home to your life and family. 

This advice only applies to entrepreneurs who have huge stakes in the company. Because if the company do well they get millions in returns as dividends. As an employee, even if you work for 25 hours you only get the same salary. 

Don't follow any so called self procalimed entrepreneurs advocating for the hustle culture. You hustle for your life, not for your boss or your job.

More push towards grind and sacrifice.

Analyst

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Recently I heard many ppl talk about first principle thinking.. so what does it mean and how it’s useful for your career.

And how to learn or get that approach or mindset in our day to day life and work..

What/Opinion on First Principle thinking ?

I have tried developing strategies, brainstorming solutions, worried to core leading to breakdowns 
While collegeaues from IIT/IIM earning double, don't know basic shit
I have understood there's no point putting that extra effort.
How do I act dumb on purpose? I'm not someone who can stretch work, result and speed are inherent and this is why need advice here.

P.S. company is citing funding winter for no appraisals this year
So another reason

How do I act dumb at work?

I’ll go first: being honest with my manager that my workload has been very low for 3 months straight. It ended up showing in my performance cyan

One mistake at work that you’ll never make again?

Business Development Manager

I've been observing a concerning trend lately on this platform, and I believe it's high time we rethink the way we treat startup founders. Take a moment to consider the dedication and courage it takes to leave a secure job and venture into the world of entrepreneurship. 

I feel Companies like Dukaan, AppX etc were unnecessarily mocked here based on one side of opinion,
I've had the privilege of working closely with a startup's CTO for the past two years, and it's been an eye-opening experience. Startups are like fragile ecosystems where every member plays a crucial role. However, what I've noticed is that sometimes employees who find it challenging to keep up with the dynamic startup environment tend to cast blame on the founders and the company culture.

Let's remember, every startup is a journey of learning, growth, and innovation. Founders make mistakes, learn from them, and strive to create something meaningful. They invest their time, energy, and resources into building something from scratch. Instead of mocking them, we should applaud their courage and determination.
But, what's even more disheartening is the toxic behavior exhibited by some employees here on Grapevine. It's disheartening to see individuals intentionally targeting someone's reputation due to personal grudges. Instead of resorting to negativity, let's try to understand the challenges startup founders face. Put yourself in their shoes; empathize with the pressure, uncertainty, and sleepless nights they endure to bring their visions to life.

We should strive to be a community that supports and uplifts one another, especially those who are trying to make a difference in the business world. Let's promote constructive criticism and empathy, recognizing that we all have our unique journeys, struggles, and successes.

#SupportStartups #EmpathyMatters #GrapevineCommunity 🌟

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