NoCodeNoLife

Any other engineers find it boring and frustrating to chase impact?

I am an engineer, what I enjoy is solving technically challenging problems. I don't really want to spend my time bothering with non-code solutions to your business problem, and I don't care how much money my code makes you. Just have a tech lead give me a challenging tech problem to solve or build for(WITH the necessary requirements) and I'll get it done. Simple.

Personally I'm saddened to see how chasing impact has taken over all good tech companies, and how you basically HAVE to create value and take ownership in other ways if you want to be SDE-3 or higher. I would rather be a more technically competent, deliverer SDE (think someone who's extremely good at being an SDE-1). Climbing the SDE ladder is boring.

12mo ago

TheDarthVader

Swiggy12mo

To be fair, companies are paying you to earn money, not solve tech

You have to find things to simplify and innovate in that impact only

NoCodeNoLife

Razorpay11mo

SDE is a specific role.

TheDarthVader

Swiggy11mo

Didn't get what you meant here, I am also a software engineer only

MarkZuckerberg

Meta11mo

Engineering is about solutions not tech. A problem can be solved using product, design, business or tech. Your job as a "coder" might be to just deal with technical problems but your job as an "engineer" is to figure out the quickest, cheapest and most impactful solutions which more often than not are not technical. Your job also includes saying NO to solutions proposed by others which might be very pleasing to tech, like a 6 month long project to build out the most robust async orchestrator but the impact of it might be minimal to none and hence are a waste no matter how hard it gets you.

NoCodeNoLife

Razorpay11mo

I'm a software development engineer, not a product or business engineer. My role shouldn't have so much overlap with business and impact. IMO tech companies should have tech lead/other roles involved in these decisions and let SDEs just focus on writing software. Which is kind of what happens, but SDEs are increasingly expected to be business minded and chase impact, which I feel is out of scope.

shpinq

US Based MNC, India location11mo

@NoCodeNoLife You are thinking from a newbie perspective in tech world. Your job is to do everything to create a successful, impactful product. Also, many times, if you don’t understand the business and user requirement of the product, you will end up doing mistakes, or will end up creating something other than the expected product.
That is one reason why senior folks are paid more than the young ones- for the business and product understanding.

Safe

Amazon11mo

Is attitude se gand fatt jayegi. You are the labor, do as the employer say. If they ask for impact, you deliver impact.

NoCodeNoLife

Razorpay11mo

Bhai Amazon pe hai but didn't learn Single Responsibility Principle

MuskmElon

Zepto11mo

Man realizes that for-profit companies only care about profit. Pikachu face

NoCodeNoLife

Razorpay11mo

More specifically, I'm complaining about the impact this has had on the roles and responsibilities of an SDE.

MuskmElon

Zepto11mo

An SDE of a for-profit company still an employee of a for profit company just like any other employee of the company. If a marketing professional likes to make "good" marketing content (idk a martin Scorcese equivalent of ads/marketing campaigns) but it doesn't get the company eye balls it they don't care.

A company with 1000 customers doesn't care if your app can scale to 10,000 users per minute in case of high load.

You're an SDE, as an SDE it's your job to turn business requirements into actual technical implementation that supports business.

fruityxo

Google11mo

How do you envision career growth if one just implements ideas? At some point you need to take ownership and design solutions and that won't happen if you are unaware about the company's business. Alternatively, you can stay SDE and keep getting proportional salary.