PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle

Are these signs from God or the government? Starting to believe there's some higher power in the universe

Storytime: I work at Gojek. This year on 10th March 2023, I was supposed to be laid off in their second minerva round. But got saved due to office politics. Ever since I found out, like a sane person, I've been on the lookout - but like an insane person, for whatever reason, not aggressively. Finding out that you got saved because of petty office politics, and how pointless everything is- changed the way I look at Jobs/companies. While I did wanna move, I wasn't desperate. All of them are snakes.

Anyway, Since then, I've interviewed only for 3 companies. All 3 of them didn't work out.

First company - After the intro call , I was told that this wasn't a good fit . No explanations given. I was quite sad on that one. First kick back from the world after learning I was to be fired. Self doubt was heavy at this point.

Second company - cleared everything but they weren't making a good offer. Took 1.5 months to meet at an agreeable salary. I still wasn't happy and parted ways,sad that it didn't work out.

During our negotiations, the Indian government changed some policies that hit their industry hard. This company is now just trying to minimize the impact of the new policies, currently. They were not able to offer market industry salary then and I'm sure wouldn't be able to do so now. Layoff rumours in the air. I wonder what would have happened had I given in and accepted their mediocre offer or they had given in and given me something they couldn't sustain.

Third: I interviewed at MPL. I was impressed by the HR, the interview panel- great product minds to work with and grow. The salary discussed in the intro call seemed great. I cleared 3 rounds. Went and met them. However I didn't clear, post that. HR ghosted me abruptly. I kept following up. After a week they responded. Feedback wasn't constructive or detailed . It was borderline harsh. I was super sad. I thought MPL would be it.

Woke up to the news of MPL layoffs today. Indian government changed GST 🤣

19mo ago
DizzyWaffle
DizzyWaffle

What happens, happens for the best. People don’t seem to get it initially, however, retrospectively it all makes sense somehow.

PrancingDumpling
PrancingDumpling

But why is it for the best? Could I ask you why do you think so?

ZoomyMuffin
ZoomyMuffin

For real. I’m a big believer of this.

ZoomyBagel
ZoomyBagel
Google19mo

God save people who believe MPLs and Sharechats make great products. Think about products that add value or convenience to people's lives. There are people even in tobacco companies that make "great products". But cut out all the sweet talk and think for yourself along moralistic lines, what adds some value. Layoffs are common, you might have to take pay cuts, and life will go on. Office politics exist in every office. Don't tie your personal life and peace with office. Office is the place to make money and avoid places that aren't adding value to people's lives. There might even be companies in future that will pay you to design attractive cigars. Best avoided.

BouncyDumpling
BouncyDumpling

Yeah and you build , your anon title says Google, which invades privacy. So FO

I mean as per you , you decide morality for everyone as to what is moral and what is not moral.

I sincerely hope that you don't even watch porn , because you might be on the immoral line here. So keep your morals Inside your pants not waver it around everywhere pls

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Great product minds. Not great product. My interview panel was filled with people who had some great work ex before MPL and I could see there was an opportunity to learn from them.

Lol. I get what you mean but the lecture is a bit stretch. All PMs want to solve problems that add value. It's a matter of perspective.

SillySushi
SillySushi

Good you didn't join that company. A friend of mine was being harassed by his manager. He finally resigned because of severe anxiety from the harrasment. In the exit interview he told about this to the HR. They made him sign a legal document asking him to not post about this online, else they wouldn't give his settlement.

Such horrible companies need to be driven to the ground and the founders should face the damn music.

Fuck MPL, I would love to see it crash and burn.

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Oh damn. I am not sure I would have joined or not but I wanted that offer for validation. I could see a fit.

Good that I didn't. The end experience was also quite bad tbh. I hope that HR got laid off.🙈 Although I feel guilty thinking it.

DerpyPenguin
DerpyPenguin

I would not have signed any such shit and would have exposed them openly!

FloatingWaffle
FloatingWaffle
PayU19mo

Panoti from MBA Chaiwala left the chat.

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

My life is panoti🤣

GroovyTaco
GroovyTaco

Bro is about to get the whole startup industry down

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Lmao bro will join the government now and shut down the government. Elections incoming 🤣🤣🤣

SillyPickle
SillyPickle

Just don't apply to more startups okay? We can't afford more shutdowns 😭

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Us brother us. Should I open my own start up and fuck myself?🤣

DerpyMuffin
DerpyMuffin

Bro there have been 2 rounds of layoffs till then.. you have great luck. Feel like you are pinned to the circus dartboard and gojek leaders are throwing knives at all employees and it keeps narrowly missing you lol

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Lmao exactly that. EXACTLY THAT

QuirkyDonut
QuirkyDonut

Bro. I am going to follow the op. Won't interview the companies he is interviewing. LOL

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Someone should benefit from this. Im gonna post here the next ones I apply to 🤣

QuirkyDonut
QuirkyDonut

😆

SqueakyPickle
SqueakyPickle
Plivo19mo

@DavidRose I’m starting to look for senior PM roles. Any tips?

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

Will depend on your details ya, work ex, companies etc. Are you already a Sr PM?

SqueakyPickle
SqueakyPickle
Plivo19mo

Already a Sr PM at a startup. Fintech. 6 yo of exp, 3 as PM. Open to sr PM and PM roles, Considering not a lot of options right now.

ZippyHamster
ZippyHamster
Gojek19mo

You can try changing your team which are working on more priority initiatives.

PrancingPickle
PrancingPickle
Gojek19mo

There were layoffs 10 days ago in GoFood. 4 PMs removed. Every team is so budgeted, moving around is difficult

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