Krutrim AI
What is happening with Krutrim? Can anyone from Ola confirm that is it just a wrapper over GPT or a legit ai model? The responses to answers are just terrible. It does not look like a beta product.
TwirlyDonut
Krutrim AI’s Beta launched, it’s a wrapper service of OpenAI
Last month, Krutrim AI had attained unicorn status for being the first indigenous LLM AI model of India. There was some hue and cry when it had distorted some historical concept of India.
Today, the beta version was launched and upon pondering, it stated that it’s based of OpenAI’s LLM model…so they spent all this money & resources just a build a wrapper service.
Frankly, this is just another scam & would lose credibility in a blink of an eye. Why do Indians lack innovation & just believe in simple copy pasting.
Views are welcome.
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GroovyBoba
Didn't even use any opensource ones as tweaking them is hard and time consuming. Probably Just directly used openai api with some basic rag setup and langchain.
TwirlyDonut
Stealth13mo
So apart from having Indian vernacular capabilities it’s just a replica of OpenAI.
SillyDonut
Stealth13mo
How idiotic is this. I feel ashamed that my country would be seen as a representation of this at some level.
PerkyDumpling
Jio13mo
There is a possibility that it is not the model but the synthetic data extracted from OpenAI leading to this result.
MagicalQuokka
Stealth13mo
Quite possibly it. Even Bard had the same issue.
Not supporting Krutrim in any way but for the technically interested people, this is a likely possibility.
SillyJellybean
Stealth13mo
They're dumb but they're probably not that dumb. Most likely trained on open ai data/outputs to speed things up.
SwirlyWaffle
Stealth13mo
Do they even own any GPUs? How did they build an LLM from scratch so fast? The talent capable of this is so hard to find. Who did they poach? Sam Altman started OpenAI with the best technical researchers in the field. Who did this guy hire??
TwirlyDonut
Stealth13mo
I don’t think so they built it form grounds up. As for Bhavish’s role, he just funded the company Krutrim and add Ola’s brand name to it.
Somehow Sam’s statement makes so much sense now that India can’t build its own AI.
SwirlyWaffle
Stealth13mo
Bhavish not being technical is in fact a good thing. He is a fundraiser and entrepreneur. But my question is how is he attracting the technical talent needed to build this? And who are these people? They should be celebrated just like how Ilya and karpathy have been celebrated from OAI
FluffyCoconut
Cisco13mo
Really sad it’s just a wrapper
MagicalHamster
Qualcomm13mo
It's not the lack of knowledge or something, the reality is lack of resources.
Dataset were online consisting of 20+ terabytes.
To train such models, they usually train it on 256, 1024 and even 4096 top-notch Nvidia cards or TPUs which needs to be run for minimum of 1-2 months to have a better model
One wrong parameter tuning can be disastrous for the model and we need to train it again.
So in short, we may need more than 1Cr to train one LLM per day.
This is large issue which is not affordable in current situation.
JumpyBanana
Gojek13mo
I feel these are strategies by bhavish so that people can talk more about it and he can get free marketing. Because negative things more rapidly and as they say “Negative marketing is also marketing” Also I saw this, I feel it has been done knowingly: https://x.com/mhaskarchief/status/1762427339739382007?s=46&t=f5bSYJBTNf297mcRVn7vFw
SquishyNugget
Dunzo13mo
If that's the case, then they've clearly not done their homework. I tried it yesterday, and somehow it generates the wrong output when you tell it to provide a combined result. It seems they've done a very poor job of controlling hallucinations because the deviations were obvious.
ZoomyBiscuit
Razorpay13mo
I would be so proud if we build an AI of our with 10% accuracy. That would be still honourable. But this is just disgusting. Promoting your own AI while in fact it is so obvious it's not your own.
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