MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

Layoffs at startups: Early signs or warning signals

In your experience, what are some early signs that help detect incoming layoffs at a startup?

It could be company-wide, team specific or in a particular function only.

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GoofyPickle
GoofyPickle

Hiring freeze, decreased marketing spend, founding team retreating away from day to day activities and meetings

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

100%

PerkyMarshmallow
PerkyMarshmallow

All of this except some places where there is a non-founder CEO and the founder starts taking extra attention in the business

BubblyDonut
BubblyDonut

Having worked in a startup that may cease to exist in the next few months:

  • High attrition rate + company doesn’t replace employees that are leaving (High Attrition + Hiring Freeze)
  • Overconfidence and arrogance about selling capabilities (while there are almost no new sales)
  • Management pressure to put employees on PIP
  • Multiple team restructuring tactics
  • Reduced HR activities & morale (yes, the HR at this previous company said there is no budget for any HC/HR initiatives and activities)
  • Reduction on subscription costs for daily use softwares (this company let go of their JIRA subscription)
  • CEO started avoiding/reducing/delaying town hall calls
  • CEO was busy starting another startup while all this was taking place to try and “pivot” to a new product market fit
  • Almost no marketing spend
PerkyMarshmallow
PerkyMarshmallow

Wow sounds a lot like mine too, got real fried when I had to give up Notion and Slack.

MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

Wow, that sounds like a lot of clearly bad signals.

What else did you see in your time there? Anything that could've helped spot the train wreck earlier?

GoofyPickle
GoofyPickle

Interestingly another trend - the whole company is now up in each others faces. Folks in strategy, product and marketing now doing sales actively pitching customers etc - run !

MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

Wow, that's a new one. Any places you can name where this has happened?

JumpyQuokka
JumpyQuokka

CFO/Founder's calendar has a leadership meeting titled "Options to restructure the business" 🤡

PeppyMuffin
PeppyMuffin

What to do when whole cofounder/HR team calender is private? 😕

JumpyQuokka
JumpyQuokka

Then what others have mentioned in comment's

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

@Firstradar8 nailed it

If you also see all hands/town halls reducing
Fewer interactions between founders and team

Also if there has been higher than normal attrition lately

MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

How is high attrition a sign? Is it because other people are suspecting an incoming train wreck?

PeppyHamster
PeppyHamster

They have the info that you do not and belong to important departments. It’s a big red flag.

JazzyBiscuit
JazzyBiscuit

I’d say the macroeconomic environment and the perception of where it is headed is a big indicator. At the company level, secondary signals can be recent revenue targets missed, which can be identified in all hands.

MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

That's a great point. How many revenue targets missed (and by how much) would be cause for concern?

JazzyBiscuit
JazzyBiscuit

I think that would depend on the individual company. I’d think it depends on by how much they missed it as well as their cash position.

GigglySushi
GigglySushi

Cost cutting when it comes to perks , projects being shelved. Back in March I had created a post here " rampant negativity at Yubi" highlighting several issues that showed a signs of a possible layoff. 4 weeks after layoffs actually started. You can refer to that for more info

MagicalLlama
MagicalLlama

Are you talking about the Fintech company Yubi? Go-yubi?

GigglySushi
GigglySushi

Fintech Yubi

FloatingBanana
FloatingBanana

Over funding. Over hiring. Over confidence.

Then PIPs start coming out.

GoofyPretzel
GoofyPretzel
G2.com21mo

Leadership treat you like a labour. They will change the eye interaction how they were doing earlier. They will only connect with you only for task while earlier they were are also involved with you in fun task like party, board games etc

MagicalPanda
MagicalPanda
Google21mo

When a lot of people don't have enough projects..it's clear they overhired during the boom and they'll be cut soon

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