SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

Prod Man(after MBA) vs Google

Hello Folks,

I'm currently working at Google, and I'm considering quitting for an MBA (expecting admits to IIM-A/B/C) to break into Product Management.

Honestly, I'm interested in it for industry exposure, the chance to climb the ladder quickly, and, let's be real, the fat paychecks.

I am currently not really earning at the level I should be, even at Google. Could someone with experience share some genuine insights?

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PerkyKoala
PerkyKoala

i am confident that people are going to advice you against mba here, and reason is obvious

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

And the obvious is?

QuirkyPotato
QuirkyPotato

Yes please. What is the obvious reason?

FuzzyBoba
FuzzyBoba

What do you do at Google

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

Just joined a few months ago, I'm an engineer, a bit of coding, a bit of other tech stuff

FuzzyBoba
FuzzyBoba

If you're not a full time SDE go get that MBA. If you are an SDE then wait for some time before deciding.

QuirkyMarshmallow
QuirkyMarshmallow

CSE+Senior SE+ MBA here. Do not go for MBA. Mic drop

PerkyKoala
PerkyKoala

what are into nowadays? planning to go back to sde? tier 1 mba? how much experience? why not mba? don't like the current role?

QuirkyMarshmallow
QuirkyMarshmallow

No i am a senior pm at an mnc saas company in India. I am liking it. But this position pays more or less same as that of a engg manager.

FloatingPickle
FloatingPickle

Majority of PMs don't have fatter pay checks compared to their Engg Counterparts. I would suggest to stay in Google, connect with a few Principal PMs, leaders and make a switch internally. In a BSchool, things can go haywire at times.

SparklySushi
SparklySushi
Student24mo

FYI You can break into Product Manager without an MBA too

PerkyPickle
PerkyPickle

Assuming you get admits to any of ABC, I'd say go for it.
With Google and a tech background on your resume, if you have good 10th 12th UG scores (8/8/8) or above, recruiters will lap you up for PM roles. It is going to be a costly affair, but the ROI will be great. With a bit of effort, you can expect a CTC of 40 lpa. PM recruiters generally look for at least 2 years of tech related experience (not a rule of thumb though). If you fit the criteria, go for it. Such an elite MBA will also help in getting into the leadership track at big firms.

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

thanks a lot @HarperStern , yeah I do fit into the criteria that you've mentioned, hoping it works out then :')

WigglyRaccoon
WigglyRaccoon
Google24mo

What is your Level? L4 PgM is between 45-85. If you are in this range then no matter whatever MBA you do cannot get this TC in any firms, except investment firms.

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

L3, sort of an SRE role, considering that?

WigglyRaccoon
WigglyRaccoon
Google24mo

Update your TC here

BubblyDonut
BubblyDonut
Student24mo

Hi OP, what are the main questions in your mind as you're weighing up this decision? That might help folks responding to share perspectives accordingly.

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

My main concern is, leaving a job at Google, leaving behind my salary for two whole years, will it all be worth it? considering I'm the sole earning member in my family :/

BubblyDonut
BubblyDonut
Student24mo

Understood. From a pure ROI perspective here's how I would think about it: Opportunity cost:

  • MBA fees
  • 2 years salary
  • Stress of supporting your family (i dont want to understate this)
    (the Google brand stays with you, so not factoring it as a cost)
    Opportunity upside:
  • MBA brand (not condoning it, but you can't ignore the impact it has on recruiters/funding if you're starting out)
  • Easier shift into product management (compared to trying internally)

Other upsides (not necessarily from an ROI perspective) :

  • You do learn to think about businesses more holistically (can be done by self effort, but requires a lot of motivation)
  • You do get a network of batch-mates who are all likely to be doing well for the most part.

My advice to you:

  • think through a little more about if you want to do an MBA. From a purely financial pov, there are much easier ways to make money.
  • if you get the admit for iima, they have (or at least used to) an option to defer the admit by a year. Use that option to think this through more - explore potential internal mobility options into pm at Google if that's something that happens.

Good luck!

PrancingWaffle
PrancingWaffle

Go for MBA if it is from IIM A/B/C. Prod-man is not the only way from here. You will open multiple avenues for yourself with an MBA. Go with an open mind. Don't worry about ROI. You can't place a value on tier-1 college MBA for such a juvenile calculation.

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

thanks for your response @EdtechManiac

MagicalDumpling
MagicalDumpling

you’re working at Google and can get into IIM, wtf are you doing taking advice from here? go for the IIMs how can it hurt?

SwirlyKoala
SwirlyKoala

Just wondering about the ROI, and if it is worth it :)

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