WigglyDonut
WigglyDonut

Traits of toxic founders

Compiling a couple of ways people can understand a toxic founder from a distance, before they start working with them actively I've now met with a lot of them over the last couple of years, here are the ones that stand out the most to me:

  1. Narcissism: They'll love to have fame through random things. Stuff like Forbes 30u30 or some random award. Even if it means nothing. They'll show how great business is doing on social media, even when it may be nosediving. You'll never know things are messed up on the inside.

  2. Masochism: They're super likely to enjoy pain: be it messed up working hours, or bad health, or just really hard times. This almost allows them to thrive during adversity. This is usually coupled with sadism, they'll typically love that they can take pain well, but you cannot.

  3. Overemphasize on the carrot: In your first couple of meetings with them, once they like you, they will over emphasize on the benefits you will have if you work with them. They'll keep repeating how your career could skyrocket, or how you could be a star in other ways. This is also a typical red flag.

These are just 3 of the ones that I feel summarize what I have seen in known toxic founders. Happy to debate/know more if somebody else has had the lovely experience too :D

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CosmicDumpling
CosmicDumpling

Manipulation: Expert manipulators. They would say one thing early morning and other things someday else. Accountabilty Avoiders: They emphasise about being accountable but run away when it is needed the most

WobblyNoodle
WobblyNoodle
Zomato13mo

+1

QuirkyWalrus
QuirkyWalrus

+1111

DerpyMuffin
DerpyMuffin
TCS13mo

When they normalize abuse/bullying/harrassment by saying - 'We are family'.

QuirkyWalrus
QuirkyWalrus

This thread should blow up.

QuirkyWalrus
QuirkyWalrus

Haven't experienced 1 but man I can second you on 2 and 3.

ZestyNoodle
ZestyNoodle

So if a founder asked me to do unpaid overtime to complete a task which was extremely urgent and needed to go out that day itself and they just thought about it an hour before the end of working hours and I sit and complete it only to find out it never got out, they just discarded it. Then after the weekend on a day I took a leave(applied and informed 1 month in advance because I had to travel) I get calls and texts from them in the morning that the same thing needs to be done again because they just decided to change everything and the unpaid overtime I did on a saturday was worth nothing.

They were very adamant about me having to do it today only, on my day off. But when I asked them to assign it to someone else, immediately it wasn't so important and can be done tomorrow as well because it needs to go out tomorrow anyways.

Would you consider this toxic or am I the problem?

JazzyDumpling
JazzyDumpling

Of course you are the problem. You should have given it back the first time around

ZestyNoodle
ZestyNoodle

sarcasm?

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