Who is more corrupt- Congress or BJP? Why?
Can people compare scams like Electoral Bonds vs 2g scam?
DesignTinker
Stealth
5 months ago
Current scams came to light only after SC’s intervention. Currently all our media houses are busy bootlicking and not doing any investigative work.
Also consider the fact that most corrupt politicians have moved to BJP in past few years. It’s safe to say BJP is the party with most corrupt politicians.
Correct. But doesn't mean that once Congress comes to power it won't be as corrupt
Damaru
Stealth
5 months ago
100% right, as a citizen keep pressure on party in power.
Serious question as I want to understand this - how is Electoral Bond a scam?
Today we know who funded which party and how much because of Electoral Bonds. True, SC made that data public, but that data existed in the first place due to electoral bonds. Earlier this info was not available - no body knew which party is getting funds from which source. So how is that a scam?
If by scam you mean to say that BJP got the most donations, I don’t think the act of getting donations qualifies for a scam no matter the amount.
What should be considered a scam is BJP arm twisted corporations / individuals to get funds. BJP should be called out for that, but we are able to do that because of the existence of Electoral Bonds in the first place.
So back to my question - why are we calling Electoral Bonds a scam and wouldn’t the scrapping of this make the donation system opaque like it used to be earlier? What am I missing?
https://youtu.be/nqtUKv6QVU4?si=P8CozF2rKbA1Yqde
https://youtu.be/H7RMbQPJ2XU?si=Q7pF6V6aGiln1Xj2
That’s what I am trying to say - today we know this because of electoral bonds. Had that not been there, these firms would have still paid but there wouldn’t have been any record of that. So, electoral bond - the scheme - is not a scam , no? It actually helped us figure out these things. The scam here is the fact that firms paid money to get licenses. But with SC striking down Electoral Bonds we will not get to know of such deals in the future.
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Imagine comparing 2G with a puny unused electoral bond system. Takes some serious loss of braincells to do that.
Further, we can't even link entities in electoral bonds. The serial number is of the bond, and the bond can be passed around like a note. So seeing entry and exit doesn't show who donated to whom.
Also, there is a more pertinent question to be raised. Anonymity was a guarantee of the sovereign, agreed upon by all stakeholders before the sovereign state made the guarantee. We have witnessed that the SC impinged on the guarantee of the sovereign, and thus any guarantee of the sovereign is worthless now. Do we allow this to be normalised? The economy, currency, T-bills, SGB investments etc. work because they have the guarantee of the sovereign. But the sovereign has lost trust as the guarantee was proven to be false.
Lol BJP has done spectrum scam which is much bigger than 2G scam, bjp c*ck suckers gets orgasm whenever they say "mandir yahi banega", meanwhile bjp is busy doing all sorts of scams
2G scam was one scam with a huge amount, electoral bonds are multiple scams with the amount that you see paid as kickback. The scam amount is the underlying amount on which the kickback of bond bas been paid. Ex- Aditya Birla paid 100cr before govt waived off 27k cr of debt and converted it into equity. There are hundreds of such cases taking total amount to a way bigger number.
Even a ₹1000 note was a guarantee of the sovereign with RBI governers signature. Can you use a ₹1000 note today or was it mentioned that you’ll have to stand in a queue to get it exchanged? Sovereign guarantee doesn’t apply in unethical, immoral and illegal cases. The law of the land supersedes any contractual obligation. Tomorrow, if govt guarantees mass murder of a minority and SC overrules it, will you have the same argument?
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BJP. the way amounts for scams are calculated has changed. If the amount for electoral bonds is calculated the same way as it was calculated for 2g scam, then the electoral bonds scam might be 100x the size of 2g scam. Pm cares - imagine a scam which has been designed to be be untraceable.
SceneUnseen
Stealth
5 months ago
Money wise, it’s always whoever is in power because they have more opportunity, so it’s BJP for now. Morals wise, it’s their neck and neck. There may only be some random individual party member who isn’t.
Dunno about this, but DMK is, by far, the worst when it comes to corruption and gundaism. Karunanidhi dynasty literally owns every major businesses in TN from Cauvery hospitals to real estate (G-Square) to film industry (Red giant movies) to even IPL team ("Sunrisers" which is their party symbol).
If you think media is friendly to BJP, you should check out the media in Tamil, they are literally owned by the family!
FreeThinker
Stealth
5 months ago
The question is about BJP or Congress. Why don't you try answering that?
Soprano90
Stealth
5 months ago
There is a Supreme Court ruling stating that electoral bonds are unconstitutional. Can you please share similar details about scams done by congress/DMK?
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MildMusic68
Stealth
5 months ago
BJP
Congress steals INR 1000 and runs away
BJP Steals 500 INR + places a stranglehold on us as to what should we do and what we shouldnt do.
Congress = Steal Money and get Rich
BJP = Enslave people and their mibds and get happiness from it. Make their life difficult.
Electoral bonds in itself isn't a scam. It is a facade for 100s of scams underneath
Brutallyhonest
Stealth
5 months ago
AAM
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