In MNC getting ESOP is very hard considering their work force. Usually esop will be given to director and VP +  
 But again you give it a try!

Software Developer

Usually in international MNCs you get RSU or you can purchase listed stocks at employee discount and sell in open market after some time.

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Lawyer

Can I ask for ESOP , if get placed in MNC ?

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ESOP

ESOP- Grapevine

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Hello all! 
I am working as HR Head in a growth stage startup in Bangalore. So many people here talk about compensation, culture, growth etc. Happy to answer questions related to HR/Culture/Startups.

People & Culture Manager

Currently in talks with the CEO of a small international startup (less than 10 total members spread across 4 countries). My existing profile is an exact match for what they are looking for in a candidate (they are implementation partners of my existing company's software). 
I am pretty close to closing it but now he wishes to know my existing salary. I tried to avoid sharing it but he wants to know it before quoting anything to me. 
I wish to get a huge raise (80-100%) since i will be moving from a known brand to an unknown startup with all the skills they need and more from Day 1. 
Any tips on how I can handle this situation?

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Consultant

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ESOPs is offered by an early age startup. What are the things I does be aware about? or ask the founders to clarify with me.

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Product Analyst at faang+ 
CTC - 20.5 lpa full cash

Vs

APM at Series C (climate tech Startup)
CTC - 27.5 lpa ( cash + ESOP)

Which one is better for career progression
Like APM at a startup or a PA in big MNC

Salary comparison

Growth Manager

Was recently approached by Razorpay for a role at their payroll or Ezetap function. 
They are looking to hire for PM and PM 2, and I qualify for both of these roles.
Can someone please help me out with the exact compensation for both the roles  in this format : In Hand + Variable 
+ ESOPs.

Approached by Razorpay for a PM role, need Salary insights.

Hey folks, 
Got a full time offer as an APM and they offered: 
1. 10 LPA Base
2. 1 lakh Retention Bonus (will be given in the first month) 
3. 1 lakh ESOPS

Should I accept or negotiate for more? If I negotiate, which component should I negotiate and how much? 

Thanks in advance.

APM Fresher Salary

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Can someone confirm this ? 
If yes can you say the minimum designation to get ESOP? 

Thanks 👍

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Software Engineer

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So i got the ESOPs in my current company and now they want me to exercise it as it is mandatory to exercise the ESOP in a certain period of time. What will happen once I exercise it?? Also i am thinking of quitting the company so what will happen to the exercised ESOP if I leave the company??

Please give any resources to understand the complete what, how and when of the ESOPs and general summary regarding it

Can anyone please explain to me the ESOP thing??

Frontend Engineer

As a software engineer with 1.5yrs of experience, how much ESOPs shall I ask from a Seed funded startup. I am here since initial days of company.

Is it a certain percentage of valuation? What's the market standard?

Right amount of ESOPs

I have 6 years experience. My current base/fixed is 60 LPA. (I also got a 5 lakh bonus and 5 lakh of my ESOPs vested this year making my total vested about 30 lakh. So the total comp is 70). 

I'm being offered a senior engineer position in an early stage startup (as part of the founding engineer team). They haven't given an offer yet.

Being early stage, the emphasis will most likely be on ESOPs. How do I evaluate this and set my expectations? (If I were to switch to a mature company, I believe the hikes usually are between 15-20%? How does this work for early stage startups?)

Salary expectation at early stage startup

Hello All,

I interviewed with a startup recently and some of their policies around esops was something I encountered for the first time in my career, so wanted the expert advice of the community on next steps.

Surprise one: ESOPs will be allocated post probation period of 3 months and vesting starts from there and not the date of joining, I was surprised on this but upon discussion with the company POC I was given a reason of the legal fees involved, which sounds fair but the vesting schedule is it employee favourable?

Surprise two: They shared an offer letter with only the fixed component and said ESOPs will be evaluated post completion of probation period basis performance. Upon further discussing in this I was informed that this is a standard format their VC(sequoia, a16z and elevation) have approved. Is this true because I asked around few of my friends and all of them said esops are an integral part of the startup compensation and all of my and their offer letters historically had esops mentioned along with their value. 

Wrt to point 2 an I asking too much or some practice has changed in the industary which I’m unaware about. Also esop value post probation evaluation, is it employee friendly as the employee is in non negotiable position, isn’t it ?

Should esops component  be mentioned in offer letter?

I am in discussion with some very early stage startup and if things work out then will be part of the founding team. They have promised to give me same salary as the current company’s salary but give ESOP. Is ESOP worth it if you are founding team member?

The founder has sold his previous company so higher chance of success it looks to me.

Is there any case where person made huge money on ESOP?

Are ESOP worth it? Did it make anyone billionaire?

Engineering Manager

Hi, Say a Series B (US) funded startup gives me 3000 shares which are worth $5/share. It follows the usual vesting period of 4 years. Now assume 4 years have passed and all the 3000 shares are vested but the company hasn't gone IPO. 

Here are my quesions

- When exercising US stocks in India, what is the % of withholding tax I should pay?
- Say if I exercised all the shares and if I decide to leave the company do I get to keep those exercised shares with me forever?

I prefer answers from people who have exercised ESOPs before. I don't want answers like "It depends, Talk to your HR or CA". Appreciate any inputs.

Question on US based ESOPs in India

Analyst

This post is for younger minds to not fall for ESOPs as a wealth creation tool.

Why do I say that? 

ESOP pool is generally less than 10% of total equity distributed among thousand and ten thousands of employees. The share you get is miniscule. 
Founders saying that the pie will be big enough so that this percentage will matter is a hyper-optimistic prediction with nothing to back it.

You have to ideally wait till IPO to even make the miniscule amount. Very few companies buyback and fewer will do post-ZIRP 

ESOPs only give you the option to buy not right to buy. Company can in some circumstances take that right away. People in positions of power should negotiate for rights not option. 

The success rate of startups is less than 10% which means the chances of this miniscule amount is low. 

Overall, lowering your salary for more ESOPs won't make sense unless you are convinced that the startup will go big.

The ESOPs lie

Product Designer

I have recently received an offer from a startup and my offer letter says that I will receive esops (post round). 

What does post round here mean?

Have little doubt about ESOPs mentioned in my offer letter

Need help with understanding which are the top series B, C startups in Bangalore with huge growth potential?

Will name a few:
Flobiz
Vyapar
Velocity (series A I guess)
What else?

Top series B,C SaaS startups in Bangalore?

What's the value of your ESOPs when allotted to you and their worth now? Or they just melted like soap?

ESOPs or SOAPs??

Business Analyst

I am getting offered a 10L Esops for example, does that  simply mean i need to pay some amount  to get shares worth 10L of company at Actual Market Price?

I have got only RSUs until now so now idea how world of esops work and are they actual money?

Like If i’m at 40 CTC fixed and getting offer 48 fixed + 8L esops, am i getting 20% increment or 40% increment?

Explain Me like I’m 5 : What are ESOPs?

Let's assume youre stepping into your 5th grade. Parents tell you that they have 10 chocolates in the fridge and if you complete all the homework, pass exams with distinction and make them proud, they will give 10 chocolates and also extra.  
  
 So you work your ass off and kill your homework and exams. 
  
 If you have good parents, they will give you 2 chocolates per milestone [ESOPs buyback].  
  
 If you have good and rich parents, they will do as promised [company going IPO]. 
  
 Very common scenario - If you have bad parents, they will continue promising the existence of chocolates to motivate you but in reality there are no chocolates [company not doing buyback nor going IPO. ESOPs are just paper money with no value].

I am being offered 30% of CTC component as ESOPs (1 crore liquid pay + 30 lakh ESOPs). It's a Series B consumer tech brand. 

Are ESOPs still a thing? What should I do?

ESOP

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