"QA didn't catch it, not my fault. Had to ship fast"

Software Engineer

Yes, friend. I just quoted the typical excuses

Software Developer

Why so desis call "code *phat* " - that's not the literal translation of code breaking

Engineering manager

Founding Engineer

So I was working on Salesforce integration when ever somethings goes down our response was constant "it's not us it's them" 🤣

Engineers explaining things to mere mortals (biz teams)

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1. They are the most overpaid people in India.
2. They have no work life balance and they don't even know what it means.
3. They think they are the best at everything, but they can't do anything right.
4. They are always complaining about their job and how much they hate it.
5. They are never satisfied with their salary or benefits package.
6. They are always looking for new jobs because they think they deserve better than what they currently have.

Would you like to add anything else here?

Software Engineers as seen by a Product Manager...

Product Manager

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

Background: I work in a D2C consumer product startup, we have an in-house website and a growing tech team of 7 people. The whole business team is 100+. I'm a '23 grad from a tier 1 engineering college.

I joined the company back in September when the job market was at the bottom and I had to take a 40% pay cut (21LPA to 12LPA) (while switching (the last company ran out of funding). I was at a higher than avg base in my previous role but the current role is 20% below the average. (15LPA) The company is in a growth stage and lots of processes are yet to be defined which leads to a lot of chaos but I get a lot of freedom as well.

My manager is aware of the whole situation and we had also negotiated a 6-month review for ESOP allotment. My monthly reviews have been going well and we have shipped some good improvements and features over the last few months.

Only PM in the startup, how much appraisal should I ask for at 6 months?

Let's face it. In some company (read mine) they are the gatekeepers of all things roadmap, obviousness, communication between engineers and business. While in some companies they are nothing but a left over thought acting no more than a typical Program Manager (Google and how Engineers have more say and power in roadmaps).

What are your thoughts on your PM?

Ask Engineers: Thoughts on Product Managers?

Tech lead

There has been a huge influx of posts dissing roles like Product, Marketing, HR etc. by Techies.

Every other post, or comment is made by them undermining the value of other depts and these cuties think business runs just by their sub-par code.

I understand that their delusion stems from the fact they get paid huge salaries by loss making companies. Which is bound to crash sooner or later. 

Rant over.

Why are Techies so delusional?

Founder

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Question to all the software engineers. 

What are some traits of the best PMs you have worked with - could be a behavioural aspect / work ethic / knowledge of the domain etc.

Engineers' views on Product Managers

I am a 6 yrs experienced Software developer and part of a mid-stage startup. This is my third job; I have been working here for 3 years. I was involved here as one of the core engineers at the start in developing the overall platform, After that, my growth as an engineer stagnated for 2 years . 

Constant importance and priority are given to business requirements and hacky work getting pushed to production in the name of fast iterations and business impact every week. 

My engineering manager lacks proper engineering skills and doesn't respect engineers even after their impact on the company and constantly keeps saying the engineering team doesn't contribute to the revenue of the company despite us pushing work that improves business positively. 

Last year around November, around 80% of the engineering team was subtly suggested to start looking out for work (basically a soft layoff) because management was too scared of a social media backlash

Due to all this,2 years' worth of technical debt has accumulated on the overall codebase and apart from giving justification for every code improvement that we try to make there, we still have to work on business/product requirements. 

My growth as an engineer has stopped and I am worried about missing out on the latest developments in the tech industry, especially with AI in the picture, and want to make my skillset somewhat AI-proof. I have come back to hands-on coding this year , so that's a positive start. I am considering taking a 3-4 month break after resigning from my company to study, develop side projects, develop a portfolio etc

Has anyone else been in this boat ? How did you come out strong?

Side Effects of working at startups

I had this idea in mind, that many of us either want to learn something new or create our own product but we either don't have the time or consistency to learn or no time to build huge products alone.

So I'm proposing this, why don't we software Engineers of all experience levels come together and build communities where if someone wants to learn SpringBoot Backend or React Frontend or whatever the stack is, they come along and start working on a product and learn along the way.

To help them, experienced software Engineers come along and if they want they work on it and help the people and guide them with the best practices.

In the case of experienced folks, let's say they decide on several products and we divide the teams based on the expertise and start working on them.

What do we get in return?

Better networking, experience and maybe a few good startups which are built by
us, and they succeed at a product level.


Who is this for?

Anyone who wants to mentor, learn or want to build a product but they don't have people to do that.

Who all are invited?

Senior Engineers, Tech Leads, Engineering Managers, Product Managers, Director of Engineering, CTOs and others. Sr folks to help the community.

Let's say we decide on 5 products, make a roadmap on how we want to work and within a year we release these products in the market and maybe maybe we get to work on our own company rather than from others.

if not, then also good karma and networking will be done which will be helpful for this tough time ahead of us.

Today's Junior engineers will be Senior engineers of tomorrow.  Today's Senior engineers will be a great part of management of tomorrow.

Let's build real software and change the way we learn things and do great engineering and learn a lot and earn from the products as well.

Thanks 🙏🏻

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