Granting oneself bonuses, stock options and hefty appraisals was seen during the 2008 Sub Prime crisis as well. What's new? Greed will always be there.

Are you talking about the housing market crisis? How is it related to recent layoffs?

Software Engineer

SLT giving themselves hefty bonuses and pay raises during a meltdown

Sales Manager

Yes, true. But Indian folks are busy giving dating advice.

Recruiter

Post also tells MFAANG investors want the salaries to be reduced. One of the reasons why HRs are low balling us so much IMO

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Great thread on what led to mass layoffs in MFAANG

Great thread on what led to mass layoffs in MFAANG- Grapevine

Guys, i am in final year B.Tech, currently preparing for placements. 

My Parents advice is to prepare for Govt Jobs. They are fearing about the layoffs, but my aim is to get job in anyone of the MAANG.

I just want to know why layoffs happening. Is it because of the over hiring or because of the poor performance of the employees.

Please share your experience in your company too.

PS: Please upvote to get more reach.

Why still layoffs in MAANG?

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Just an open ended question on why are layoffs happening on such a scale. I personally feel the skill to salary ratio has fucked up so much lately that the companies are having to fire people who are essentially useless to them. More of liabilities than just assets! What do you think?

Layoffs - who do you blame?

Absolutely agreed. Hiring in hordes because money was easily available earlier and founders/companies thought that they will be able to build more and hence get more value / valuation sooner was the core reason why the skill to salary ratio got f’ed up. And it’s good that it’s being reset now. 
  
 Coming to who to blame for layoffs - no one. It’s pure capitalism - there was money, hence there were jobs. For whatever time people got paid a lot more than they deserved - they should be rather thankful. If they built their life around the assumption that this much money was the new normal, it was their naïveté. Companies got to survive, and they have to do whatever has to be done… as long as it’s ethical. Firing is fine. Not paying salaries / dues is not.

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Week back there were posts by linkedin engineers that linkedin is hiring SDEs and anyone can as referral and today they laid off 700 people.

Like whats happening man!!! Is the company dumb or what?

LinkedIn Layoffs India

(1) Reduce cost of human capital -> (2) Post better EBITDA numbers in earnings calls -> (3) Get big bonuses and sell your equity if its value is rising -> (4) Hire a lot of people again so that you can repeat this cycle again to profit

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Morr companies to follow this trend given supply at peak and demand at lowest?

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AMA about what actually goes behind those rangolis in the HR dept and work that better compensated people in HR do.

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Opinion : Being at a higher level is vulnerable to Layoffs

I'm at the highest level, just did shrooms. No possibility of me being laid off because my design skills just went through the roof.

Product Owner

That has made me seriously look at non-FAANG jobs. FAANG no longer pays the best and no longer is the best work culture, is something I am starting to realise the more I talk to my friends about it.

What do we think about the ongoing brutal layoffs at Google?

Product Manager

Being an investor in equity markets, i was aware of the fact that US market will crash as the free money by fed draws back. I obviously was not able to link this up with the funding dry-ness.

I still expect a founder to be aware of these economic events. I am curious how could the management decide to go for hiring employees only to lay them off a year later. 

If you are a founder, would be happy to know the other side of the story.

What triggered layoffs ?

Let me explain in detail. 
 There are two parts to it and can be broken down basis PnL 
 1. Revenues : Sudden jump in tech( social media, e-commerce, ad tech, fintech, etc) plus supporting industries (chipmakers, laptop / device manufacturer) and the general economy with QE money  
 This impacted forecasts as most firms forecast AOPs basis historically trend (which clearly was an abberation) - this lead to higher HC estimates and rampant and quick hiring  
 Variable costs: CAC, customer support, sales incentive all spiked up as 1. Everyone was putting money (inc bidding price for key words) and 2. Huge customer inflow due to covid (edtech, e-commerce) that required support  
 Fixed costs: While office space / rents remained steady or dropped as % of revenue. This was offseted by fixed tech (software, hardware, people) costs and other costs like (legal, HR, Business, Marketing, supply chain, etc.) the talent was expensive to source plus their need was instant as you already had customer to be served  
 All of this lead to rampant hiring, inflated CTC, rosy forecasts, etc.  
 everyone had turned a blind eye to inflation implications (as for the past 30 Y no one saw a shooting inflation - hence the key decisions makers had now experience & idea about it) - till Dec’21 even FED said inflation is transatory. 
 It was the Ukraine invasion that opened people eyes. Oil went up, food prices went up, UK Europe saw an energy crisis etc 
 This made all the rosy forecast mentioned above duller as 1. Demand was expected to reduce due to higher cost of living 2. Capital became scarce as funding drired 3. Cost of capital (WACC) became expensive as hurdle rate climbed (which is rate of return for bond)  
 Management and investor panicked as they have limited partners (LP) to answer and quess who are these (big pension funds) so people’s pension money had come into startups which were not showing signs of exit for investors. 
 All in all - it is a pain we all have to bare for being exuberant in 2021-2022:

Growth Manager

To conduct layoffs on regular basis :) Role ends on 2024 means a bigger wave is coming. 

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4041876488

Google is hiring a Layoff Support team Partner

Engineering Manager

Hi I want to get job at offcampus Microsoft, I am cse-2024 passout unplaced.

Tell me from scratch what all skills are required to crack Microsoft,what should all i have to do? (CP,DSA...etc? )
I am ready to work really super hard 

Please spare  2min time and comment it will help me a lot

Microsoft, help me

All of our fears about AI was correct! 

They will take our jobs, they will overtake the world & will finally turn against us. 

https://www.peoplematters.in/news/talent-management/ibm-asks-employees-to-volunteer-for-layoffs-targets-80-cuts-in-key-departments-including-hr-40430 IBM asks employees to volunteer for layoffs, targets 80% cuts in key departments, including HR

IBM planning 80% layoffs

I don’t understand what the point really was 

- companies with a bad product are still struggling 
- companies with a good product are still growing
- rent in Bangalore, Mumbai is still sky high 
- salaries are still high, people are still asking for more 
- food is expensive as ever 
- stock prices of companies that fired people never really went up 

Someone make any sense or any of this?

Layoffs were a total failure at changing anything

Analyst

Third round of silent layoffs are happening at Yubi. The company is at cross roads with no real revenue being generated. Last year itself Ebidta turned negative. Cost cutting all benefits revoked. No hike given this year not even some percentage. 6 people thrown off without even a word directly asked to handover laptop. Whole organization is under confusion. Chaos and panic everywhere. What should I do now any ideas are welcome. Too much pressure that I literally not practising DSA, design as even work from office is being monitored. They even monitor timed we go out or go for restroom I guess. I dont know what to say....

Beware Yubi Go get Layoff

From the last few days there were talks going on about layoffs in Morgan Stanley. Some 7% of the global staff will be handed over the pink slip in this week. 
Well... It started happening from today ... Few colleagues from my department were laid, and the reason being "company is trying to survive in the market, company is planning the road ahead by taking such bold steps".
When this was announced, my anxiety shot up the next level and I couldn't wait for the meeting to finish.
The past few years have not been great for the business worldwide due to which many companies are forced to take such steps. These companies just have been doing a hiring spree from the last 1-2 years that now they are regretting their decisions and letting off their employees.
My question is - "If a company hires excessively during the bull market and is forced to lay off few of the employees during the downturn, has the company made an error by not evaluating the headcount or it was just simply the need of the hour" 
 
Please note - I know many people out there who have faced job cuts due to many factors, sincerely requesting people to take this matter very seriously

Layoffs - A complete mess made by the companies

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40171125

Google layoffs clarity

A lot of these jobs will move to cheaper countries, they won’t be completely scraped. India should benefit

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Hello Viners!
I wanted to share my CTC journey and looking to seek your opinion on this!

Joined Fintech(Paytm) last year with 3.5 YOE - 31LPA(Base)
[Current] LaidOff but Got an offer in a SaaS company during my NP - 31LPA(Base)

YOE - 4.5 Years

Most of the companies I interviewed for were not able to match my current fixed because of which I took this offer. Now I feel like my Base is low as compared to the market average in terms of YOE which makes me worry about my career’s progression. Do you also feel the same? 

But at the same time I am grateful that in this job market, I have got a job. What do you think? Am I rationally thinking here? I live with my parents and they are partially dependent on me. I hope I have made a correct decision.

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