Lack of personal life. Monkey see monkey do. Servitude. EMIs

Software Engineer

I work like 2hrs over time almost every day. I own my work but my manager also puts impossible work load on me. I have never say never attitude... So I push myself to complete as much work as I can. 
 Also, many times I have heard the management say "Oh people just disappear after 5pm". I dont want to be seen like a work evader. Because whatever work i do after reaching home is not clocked.

UX/UI Designer

Just wondering if this is normal. I normally stay back like 30mins, maybe more in rare occasions. For example today I stayed back like 50 mins because my manager and I were working together on a pr...

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Just wondering if this is normal. I normally stay back like 30mins, maybe more in rare occasions. For example today I stayed back like 50 mins because my manager and I were working together on a problem. Then he tells me that I should go home and he will investigate the problem himself. It was quite late so I went home but then I saw his last teams message was at 8pm meaning he was working on that problem for hours after I left? I don't really understand this idea of doing this much unpaid overtime. Are they trying to get promoted? To look hardworking? In my previous (retail) jobs, everyone left as soon as their shift was over. What we were doing was semi important but it could wait till the next day. Also I don't think he does it out of the love of his job because what we were doing wasn't super exciting either.

I recently started my first real job. Why do people do so much unpaid overtime?

I recently started my first real job. Why do people do so much unpaid overtime?- Grapevine

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Compiling a couple of ways people can understand a toxic founder from a distance, before they start working with them actively 
I've now met with a lot of them over the last couple of years, here are the ones that stand out the most to me: 

1) Narcissism: They'll love to have fame through random things. Stuff like Forbes 30u30 or some random award. Even if it means nothing. They'll show how great business is doing on social media, even when it may be nosediving. You'll never know things are messed up on the inside. 

2) Masochism: They're super likely to enjoy pain: be it messed up working hours, or bad health, or just really hard times. This almost allows them to thrive during adversity. This is usually coupled with sadism, they'll typically love that they can take pain well, but you cannot. 

3) Overemphasize on the carrot: In your first couple of meetings with them, once they like you, they will over emphasize on the benefits you will have if you work with them. They'll keep repeating how your career could skyrocket, or how you could be a star in other ways. This is also a typical red flag.

These are just 3 of the ones that I feel summarize what I have seen in known toxic founders. Happy to debate/know more if somebody else has had the lovely experience too :D

Traits of toxic founders

Product Manager

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Grapeviners, this is what your corporate overlords like "Mr 70HoursperWeek" and all want from you, to DIE. 

70 hours per week? This is a tight slap to Mr. NM and his supporters. 

Consider the case of the McKinsey consultant who lost his life( https://www.consultancy.in/news/4168/young-mckinsey-consultant-commits-suicide-due-to-work-pressure ).
 
Wake up Grapevine!

Aftermath:
BofA Juniors will begin strike today.

Bank of America employee dies from working 120 hrs/week

Sick! People like NM are destroyers of work life balance. They earn so much but they want their employees to earn peanuts and work like maniacs.

Salesforce Developer

Founder

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So it’s barely been a month since I’ve joined this company and my manager has already started dumping his workload to me on weekends and at odd hours late in the night. 

Now he’s not a horrible person but I hate how normalised this culture is at this entire organisation. I get it if I’m a founder or working at a startup, I have to be prepared to hustle but not at a big corporation. 

And the irony is that I once needed something urgently from someone based in Europe from our team but my manager asked me to call him the next day since that person was out of his working hours while I was on a call with my manager at 1:18am…..

I’ve also noticed how casually he calls me everyday post 9pm to ask for updates or give a new task. My work hours end by 6pm. 

I really want to to establish certain boundaries, and not want to work on weekends. I’m a biker, and I’ve been cancelling all my biking plans on weekends just cause of this. How do I go about this without it negatively affecting my ratings/impressions etc.?? I have a life smh. 

(Writing this while I’m working on a Sunday)

work on weekends/late night

Senior Consultant

Working for a Big 4 company has been terrible. They don't care about work-life balance; they treat us like dirt. 

They think it's okay to work even when we're sick. I start early and finish late every day, and they say it's normal. If I log off before 7, they act like it's a crime, saying, "Even bosses work late, so why can't you?" They even expect us to work on weekends, like it's no big deal. There's no real teamwork; everything feels controlled. I end up with all the work. The bosses are just as bad; you can't talk to them about your problems. Even if you're struggling mentally, they want you to work 12 hours a day. And getting a day off? 

It's like winning the lottery. This job is ruining my mental health. I can't sleep at night worrying about going back to work the next day. They don't care about us; they just want us to work non-stop and forget about our personal lives.

Big 4 pathetic work culture ([RANT])

Analyst

How do you define work life balance boundaries at work? Everyone in my team works 10-12 hrs daily, it’s business as usual for them. I joined recently and it’s very problematic for me, I literally get no time to do anything else. 
I fear, that if I highlight this I’ll be singled out. 
Some people even feel very proud in doing so which I don’t understand. Don’t they want to go back home to their family and spend time with them?
Please provide guidance on how to set these boundaries and am I thinking right?

WLB boundaries at work.

Hi guys, I am unable to understand if culture is bad or I am thinking about it wrong - “logging off early” message/email at 5/6 PM for someone who started at 9/10 AM. Does that mean the expectation is to stay until like 8 PM for this person? Or the person wants to be transparent in case he’s reached out later?
Don’t know but I feel bad that this is considered early.

Is the culture bad if you need to send logging off early?

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Anyone else doing 80-100hrs a week here?

He's a founder and possibly gets salary and stock dividends in millions of dollars every month. He can most certainly work 80hrs a month.  
  
 Founders usually work a lot, hence the pay. There's nothing new about it.

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TSMC insiders told Rest of World the key to the company’s success is an intense, military-style work environment. Engineers work 12-hour days, and sometimes weekends too.

“if [a machine] breaks down at one in the morning, in the U.S. it will be fixed in the next morning. But in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.” And, he added, the wife of a Taiwanese engineer would “go back to sleep without saying another word.”

Missed deadlines and tension among Taiwanese and American coworkers are plaguing the chip giant’s Phoenix expansion.

Inside TSMC’s struggle to build a chip factory in the U.S. suburbs

Very interesting article on TSMC and Semiconductor Industry

Research Engineer

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It has almost been 18 months since I have joined TCS. I was on the bench for a total of 5 months in the beginning, and finally got a project.

I went to the office and my manager told me that it would take few days for document verification and security clearance. I was coming to the office daily but had nothing to do. I was getting anxious since I was just watching Youtube videos for almost a month. I wanted WFH but when I asked they said I had to come to office even if I had no work.

Finally, I got a KT from someone working on the project. I came to realise that I was doing work that even a 9th class student can do. The problem? 5 people were doing this work.

The problem? I was working 30 minutes a day. I had to come early to the office, login using my seniors login creds and do timepass work. I have to send an email to our point of contact at the client side that the work is done at the end of the day.

I have learnt nothing here. I feel that these companies are just too inefficient. I am planning to leave ASAP now. I have learnt nothing and I am scared that I will not find another job because I have the Years of Experience but no skills. This is how IT companies destroy your career. Now I am doing DSA to get into another company.

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