Pointless tbh. Most of these kids will be broken down by the system and life in 5-6 years time and they'll be joining grapevine to lament about lack of good jobs and purpose in life soon enough. 
  
 I knew a genius in my school who had a mental breakdown before he even reached college. God knows how many will try and commit self harm.  
  
 They are joining the market at an extremely challenging point of time. I pray for their well being.

I don't agree. 
  
 He was one of the topper from my batch. 
  
 Dual digit rank! 
  
 PHD at age 21 and going to earn in digits indian currency. 
  
 Remittance from USA is mind-boggling due to these extraordinary sperms 
  
 https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyam-kumar-00088162?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=android_app

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Even 150 quality iitians can make an impact out of 15k iitians produced every year

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What do you mean good to see? Those kids got no other option than to give jee.

I think there are always options. Just that IIT and engineering is an already saturated one and might not be the best option anymore.

There will be better options, but are those options applicable for masses ?. Can you suggest few options for Tier 2 and Tier 3 students

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Parents who have adult kids are from generation who have been taught to put head down and work tirelessly. They have not been trained to see future, plan alternatives. Pushing the same on their kids now. 
 The world is just another sad place

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Good to see 13 lacs+ Jee aspirants even amidst news of tech recession and what not.  If we assume 15M+ strong tech Workforce of India then 1M is knocking the door 🚪 every year.  💯% scoring in boa...

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Good to see 13 lacs+ Jee aspirants even amidst news of tech recession and what not.

If we assume 15M+ strong tech Workforce of India then 1M is knocking the door 🚪 every year.

💯% scoring in boards exam to exam like JEE, few alfa still able to get out of trap of snap and insta.

What do u think 💭 guys?

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I don’t think they add any value but just keep seeking credit for others work.

How many of you hate MBAs and why?

After seeing current placement stats of top IITs, even after Day6 not even 50% of the batch is unplaced can we say that 2024 is the unluckiest batch?

Students with good CGPA, having internships in reputed internships are not getting placed. It's worse for mediocre students.

What are alternativev for these unplaced students?

The unluckiest batch?

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Talked to the son of my Dad's friend recently. Brilliant kid has a good GPA from IIIT-H + 2 research internships and 1 summer internship at good companies. He still can't find a "good" company to get into. 
(Side Note: "good" implies a high paying job relative to last couple of years)

Apparently, most of his friends in other colleges are in the same boat. Massive pay correction has happened.

The undergoing rationale is that companies hired Class of 2022 with no restraint because the demand was really strong during their placement season in 2021. This appears to be directly correlated with quantitative easing in the US and a low interest rate environment that was conducive to fundraising for several Series A+ startups.

By the time Class of 2022 entered the market, everything changed and they felt some short term change. However, Class of 2023 is having a much tougher time. They are shoved into the job market in a time where demand is low and they are competing with kids who graduated last year. 

Ongoing consensus appears to be that a huge chunk of their batchmates are going to get their Masters abroad. Their hope is that by the time they graduate out of grad school, the economy will pick up and demand will be strong while they're poised to take advantage of that with bump up credentials.

Unfortunately, this also implies that many of them will end up in the CPT-OPT-H1B-Green Card hell.

This is really a tough spot to be in.

🚨 ℂ𝕝𝕒𝕤𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝟚𝟘𝟚𝟛 might be the unluckiest graduating class 𝔹𝕀𝔾 𝕋𝕀𝕄𝔼!!

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-Where are we headed, seeing this situation tier 1 students being unplaced I can't imagine the job scenario for tier 2/3 folks.
-What if the market does recover from such a long recession would it be able to accommodate so many fresher students as well as experienced folks?

Data obtained through a Right to Information (RTI) application filed by Dheeraj Singh, an alumnus of IIT Kanpur, suggests a potentially bleak outlook for job

IIT Madras faces placement crisis: 45% graduates are unplaced

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I see candidates with 2-4 years earning in 20LPA+ whereas sales and marketing folks who sit with 4-8LPA tops. Isn't the disparity too much?

Is tech overpaid? Why not sales or marketing?

Marketing Manager

We hire interns occasionally, and the market for interns is so bad right now, students are approaching us to work for free (we do pay a stipend and don't ask for free work).

Companies aren't even hiring that many interns, and college students need internship experience to add to their resume and compete in the market. 

Heck, MSMEs are shutting down and MNCs are doing layoffs, not very inspiring. We've managed to survive somehow through all the covid ups and downs.

Would like to know more from students on GV, what's your college internship and placement scenario like? What are you doing to stand out?

If you think IIT IIM students have it bad, take a look at other colleges

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Have you observed this trend of getting scammed? 

Early career professionals ➡️ Online Courses
Colllege Kids ➡️ FAANG/MAANG didi/bhaiyya
School Kids ➡️ JEE cram schools

Here’s why career advice is generally bad.

1. Those who share career advice online are generally out there trying to shill you paid courses. They tell you what you want to hear so you pay up.

2. Any career advice that works will lose its edge over time. Because it becomes widely adopted, and that’s precisely because it works. 

Example:
If everyone is building a portfolio website then it becomes the defacto standard. I’m not saying that don’t build a portfolio website. 

What I’m saying is, that it becomes less effective over time because you building one is not a clear differentiator.

Imagine sending a letter by post to an early stage company’s founder where you want to work, he might be more willing to schedule a call with you because you chose an approach that they might not have experienced first hand ever. 

Also, I’m not saying that the above said approach will work, since it’s unproven you’ll have to experiment and evaluate if it works.

Maybe a good heuristic is to “do what it takes to stand out” and that means being creative with how you navigate work life. 

3. Those giving advice generally impose their thought model onto you. They make assumptions basis what they think is right.

This is not a bad thing but it does not account for your specific constraints.

Finally, if you do want to ask for advice.
1. Ask “How” questions to those not much older than you, since they are executing in the trenches.
2. Ask “Why” questions to much older folks, you try to get closer to their first principles, which is the base level truth that cannot be divided further. 

Avoid asking “What” questions to anyone, generally it’s good to think them through yourself.

[Thread] Why Career Advice is generally bullsh*t?

Found these screenshots in my gallery while cleaning it. How many of these VC funded ed-tech startups exist today?

How many of these exist today?

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Disclaimer this is not a rant or this has nothing to put in bad way someones hard work.

With so many ppl making tutorials and selling courses online, I had my few observations. I welcome ppl to join on this discussion with their point of views as well.

The most important things is you need a solid company name on your resume, doesn’t matter what work you might have done there. Everyone knows the meatiest work in google is done at west coast office(just an example).

This gives you the starting point, I would not disagree to the fact that these guys put on the hard work to crack the interviews, but that doesn’t mean you start selling a dream to everyone. It will be like what harshad mehta did to his clients during the days.

If a person is working in some unknown company and even though the person teaches really well, I bet there will be hardly any takers for his/her course. 

Teaching is an art as per me, not everyone can be a great teacher. There are some good ones out there but majority of them don’t fall under above category. I would say they are social media influencers with a bit of tech knowledge. 

We have already lost a generation with rot learning and now with the rise of these ppl, the day is not far way when a person aceing the interview knows jack shit when given an actual problem to solve at workplace.

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Context: 10.5 YOE, Marketing lead. I've been looking for a switch since September last year. I'd seen signs of maybe my role or the company itself folding very early and knew 'twas time to bolt. But it's not that easy. Back then - 1 year in a startup meant hey not bad, people still spoke to you and considered your profile. These days, they treat you like Ebola if you've not had your ass stuck in the same place for 3-5 years. 

Anyway, so the majority of my time searching for jobs was the shitty Easy Apply or IIMJOBS premium account route. Suprise suprise. It doesn't work. But hey I was still employed and not nearly as motivated as someone who's unemployed. 

Cut to layoffs: Got laid off with my whole team and a huge chunk of other leaders. My first layoff, felt hilariously like the last day of school. To the org's credit they gave us 3 month severance, leave encashments and extra months for those who'd been there for 2 years+. In hindsight hearing the horror stories of 2k severance from Byju's. I'm grateful for the nice golden parachute I got. I'll be honest, it contributed heavily to my mental stability. I had time, I had leverage, I didn't have to run for the first shitty opportunity that came my way. 

The How I did it (why you struggled through the above stream of consciousness) 

- Wrote to 159 founders with one pagers to 35 of them with ideas on how i'd lead their marketing function. 5 replies. 3 interviews. 2 offers - didn't take em cuz they were super early stage or diff cities. This is immediately in month 1 so I've already started feeling icky about not getting great brands to have in my set. 
- Easy Applied to 768 (I ran a Gmail search, this is a real number) jobs. 99% no responses or you've been rejected. 
-Kept changing one letter on my Naukri.com profile, got me 6 calls, 3 interviews and 1 conversion 

I think theres a word limit to posts 🥲 following up as comments below.

Finally got a job (here's the do's and dont's)

Part 3 
  
 - Add HRs and hiring managers on LinkedIn, send them free ideas and strategies. Its ok if they steal them it meant they were great. One of them will refer you, remember you or hire you. 
 - Have a CV and a summary (half a page) that gets people excited about wanting to read the CV. Only areas of expertise and bullet points for results  
 - Don't put the OpentoWork filter on your LinkedIn DP. Its radioactive. I know people actively avoid those profiles. But make sure to keep open to work beacon on for recruiters. It pushes you ahead  
 - Dont post low effort i need a job because im laid off, i dont have money, copy pasted by millions on Linkedin. If you're gonna publically ask for a job, make sure that post has enuff of your skillset screaming for a potential hirer to want to explore more. Else you'll get velle gadhe typing CFBR 
 - Dont be anal or choosy about interviewing, i literally gave 35-50 in 3 months that culminated in 4 offers. Each one taught me something, heck ive spoken to startups with 7 peeps in it  
 - The only one that can negotiate CTC is the one that can walk away. When the offer i wanted finally came, my fixed went down a tad, but variable increased. The role was worth it so i didnt bother negotiating. Places i wasnt excited about - oh i quoted 30% hikes and got it at one place :p

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