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Has anyone transitioned from being a PM to software development?  I'm a PM with less than 2 years of exp and don't feel that I'm suited for this role. I haven't worked as a developer before but fee...

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Has anyone transitioned from being a PM to software development? 
I'm a PM with less than 2 years of exp and don't feel that I'm suited for this role. I haven't worked as a developer before but feel that with preparation I should be able to become ready. Only doubt is that will I get a SWE role as I'll be competing against freshers.

Product to SWE?!

Product to SWE?!- Grapevine

I am a Software Engineer(3-YOE) and want to transition to Product Management role.

Does the ISB PM certifications help us in any form for that or regular MBA is required to get the role.

Transition to PM role🧐

Software Engineer

I am a data scientist with 4.5 years of experience and want to transition to software engineering. In DS, we do not code the ways its done in SW roles. Moreover, I am not from CS background. How do I get started on preparing to get into tier 1 companies as SWE / SDE if I want to achieve this in the next 1/1.5 years?

How to transition from DS to SWE

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Had started my career as a android developer for 2 years. Was fairly good at it. Went for a MBA from IIM K and joined a fintech startup as a PM. Around 5yoe PM now

Keep regretting on and off how life could have been as a developer. 
1. Crazy salary- esp after covid. Almost every org ways way more to a dev than a PM
2. Lot of options in job market - Unlike PM where demand is far less than supply
3. Specialised role - unlike PM where there is literally no entry barrier
4. Hard skill - unlike PM where everyone keeps questioning the need of the role
5. Chiller life - unlike PM where failures are yours but success is team’s

Does anyone else feel the same?

Sde to PM. Regrets

Guys I have around 2.5 yes if exp in Pming but I want to switch to dev role (backend engineering) 
So should I apply to entry level SDE roles or my pm experience will be counted here?

From PM to Dev

looking out for transitioning from SDE to PM but not able to get offers. Any suggestions ? YOE - 2

Transitioning from SDE to PM

I hope this post finds y'all well.

so I'm currently working as a SDET 2 in a product base startup and my total experience is 4 years and 10 months.
now I'm seeking a PM certification course from a reputed institute of India.

1) I want genuine opinions ( preferably from other PMs) as to whether it is the right move to switch from engineering to PM.
will it be worth the hassle ? 

2) also my current job is remote so are there decent remote PM opportunities or the role demands you to be in the office more 
( this Is an important factor) 

3) while making the switch would I have to compromise on the package since it's a role switch ? 
how much hike can I expect 
like I'm making X right now 20/30% on that ? 

would really appreciate genuine opinions.

SDET trying to become PM

Software Test - QA

Hey people

I'm thinking of transitioning into PM or TPM role.
I've 5+ years of Software Engineering, 
I really like management side and have done alot of PM stuff in my previous and current org.

I make 3.5Ish monthly working in prod org.

SSE to PM

Hi all

I just graduated from undergrad and started to work as an associate product manager at a YC company. 

Having worked as a PM for a the last 3 months, it’s not something that excites me and I don’t feel like I’m actually building something. The pay is pretty decent (14 base, 4L ESOPs) but money is not an important thing for me right now. 

I seriously want to switch careers to software engineering where I get the feeling of actually building (+the feeling of being an engineer). I want to quit my job and go all in to code for 6 months and see how it goes (as mentioned, money is not an issue as my parents can take care of me for a while + they’re pretty supportive). 

Can you please give your two cents on this topic? I’m pretty confused but I want to be an engineer.

Transition to an SDE from PM

Just wanted to know people's experiences who have made this switch or even just general things i or anyone should know. 
Apart from the obvious change in work, Is the salary structure the same? Etc.

And just for context in my specific case I'm almost closing in on 4 years of experience in software development.

Switching from software developer to PM

Hi,
I have overall 5 years of product experience and 2.5 years of experience as product manager . Recently, when I trying to move to SPM position. But have got feedback that I am suitable for PM position.
Not sure if this is due to market but how can I improve on it.

PM v/s SPM

I have 7 yrs of experience in product management . It’s in electrical product segment . I know from a fundamental product life cycle standpoint job expecations are same but I do not have any knowledge on software tech or tools . Recently I have learned a bit of AI and looking to transition into AI product management . Is there anyone with similar experience ? How difficult or easy it is ? And most importantly which companies are likely to hire

Has anyone transitioned from Product manager in hardware to software products ?

How to switch from SWE to PM? Do you need to study any course ?

How to become a PM?

I know Grapevine is full of young and ambitious people that either planning to get into Product or are already working as a PM. I don’t aim to discourage any of you. Moreover, if you need tips to break into Product I would be happy to help you.

I personally feel that knowing what you are doing is going to doom is better than normalizing it.

So I will convey my experience in simple words, how I hated every single day of it, why did I still stick around for 4 years, why product decisions are random political bullshit, why you should not let anything that happens get under your skin and affect your morale. Finally, few words for sociopathic Head of Products.

Lesson #1: Go through all stages of grief at once. Accept that product culture is broken and accept that it will not get better. Finally, you can’t fix it or improve it.

Lesson #2: Ratings are political bullshit. 
I can tell you the years I was rated worse I was probably working harder and better at my job. It just depends on the results you get in the last month before ratings and whether your DOP is vocal for you.

Lesson #3: Last piece of advice: do not let your Product years lower your self esteem or sense of self worth.

Also, some words for sociopathic Head of Products. F’ you.

You Must Get Out - My Experience of 4 Years In Product

Heavily second this. I’m a tech focus generalist who stumbled upon PMing after multiple startup exits. Absolutely bonkers role with no role definition, metric ownership, impact driving. Anyone who disagrees, is lying to themselves. What I can define PM in Indian / many valley based companies with Indian founders -> glorified bhains charane wala.

What is the one thing that you think a candidate should do in order to out-stand if he is applying for a Product role coming from a non-product background?

Transitioning into product is easy

Generalist

Getting rejected from everywhere somehow.If anyone has done it. Please do share your experience!

Trying to move from Dev to PM.Seems impossible in this scenario?

Hey grapeviners, I am a software engineer and earning pretty good, but I have always dreamt of becoming a product manager. I don't hold any MBA. So How do I transition from a software engineer to a product manager.

Software Engineer to a Product Manager

Hey everyone, excited to be doing this AMA!

A brief about me, I work currently as a Director of Product at an Indian unicorn startup 

About my career: 
- Did my undergrad from IIT and then masters from an Ivy league school
- Have been in product for almost 10 years now - across 2 Indian unicorn startups and a publicly listed company

Would love to take questions on what it means to be a PM, growing within the role, building your career, and other things :) 

Will be back here at 4 pm and start replying
Shoot away!

AMA 🎙️: Hey all, I am pmsprint, Director of Product Management at a Unicorn in India!

I suck at tech (or I think so). In the current job market how do I switch to a PM position?
What would be pros and cons
Earning: 37L base 
YoE: 4

SDE2 to PM

How one can transition from SDE to PM and not in the same company?

SDE to PM

I've been really giving it some serious thought atleast in terms of if I want this.
What I want help with is I can't do this internally, so which postions do i apply to and what do I do before I start applying to at least help get noticed as a candidate and get interviews.

2. Do I need to do anything more other than mock interviews youtube and learning general PM knowledge?

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