Nishant Chahar…. Good kid but I won’t say anything special as striver ! Very very avg courses and once it got some traction, he is leaving. Not judging but this clickbait post it self has the answe...

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Nishant Chahar…. Good kid but I won’t say anything special as striver ! Very very avg courses and once it got some traction, he is leaving. Not judging but this clickbait post it self has the answer

Same course 10 bar banane se , entrepreneur nahi bolskte bhai. You’re doing bijness ! Period , accept it 

Just understand one thing folks , don’t fall for this kind f things. It works for very very few percentage of folks, you shouldn’t work hard to join FAANG. A good engineer will become better at any company, they don’t need FAANG !!

Seems like course bechkar hi ghar chalayega

Software Developer

Seems like course bechkar hi ghar chalayega- Grapevine

> Get into FAANG 
> Open a YT channel and talk how you got in 
> Make you feel worthless and you don’t know anything at all. 
> Quit FAANG 
> Sell Courses ( Discount in the name of charity ) 
> Beg to buy the 999/- ultimate course 
> Die

The Indian FAANG roadmap !

System Administrator

Had a call with my cousin this weekend. Life has been very hectic lately so, I have been laying low for a while now. Anyway, my cousin reached out and he brought up something very interesting. He mentioned how the quality of new engineering grads at FAANG has been trending downwards over the last three or so years.

Technical competency aside, there is a weird behavioural shift wherein freshers have adopted job hopping every 2-3 years. He told me that there are zero engineers who stayed longer than 3 years at his org. 

I mean optimizing for pay is fine. The thing to really balance for is impact in the long run because at one point you would find it hard to scale beyond a Lead/EM role at an org. 

But the real thing is that the "FAANG" hype has started to die down amongst the 99th percentile of talent. I wonder how long will it take to have a trickle down effect to 80th percentile and so on.

Just to validate, I asked a friend for his opinion and he opined that "Bhai, tum FAANG mei naaukar ho ya kisi startup mei, ho toh naukar hi." Translation: "You can work at FAANG, or at a startup but you are still a servant(employee)"

Is the FAANG hype really dead?

Is the FAANG hype dead? 💀

Was there any faang hype among 99th percentile folks in the first place?? 
 I graduated from a tier-1 college, majority of my friends are from Similar colleges and if I look in my friend circle, most of the folks are working at high growth startups or something of their own.  
 Sorry to say but faang was never aspirational to begin with.  
 The target audience of youtuber bhaiya/didis were tier-2/3 folks and maybe this kind of hype exists among them.

Product Manager

I don't know if I'm right or not but I feel that software engineering in India is becoming more of "How to get into FAANG" rather than actually learning skills.

Whenever I open LinkedIn all I see is 
"What I did to get into FAANG"
"My life in FAANG"
"But this course to get into FAANG"

And the most fucked up scene is people are quitting there jobs at FAANG to create content to get into FAANG.
I'm so sick of it now.
Whom is to blame here?

FAANG Engineers are creating an eco chamber

Software Engineer

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Pedigree is a must (IIT's)! ! 🐶

Founder

Rant. Chappri Interns and mid af SDEs on LinkedIn have destroyed the entire point of the platform. Every Tier 1 graduate working at Microsoft or Walmart posts their own pic in some Manali hillstation and give 400 lines of unsolicited gyaan, which virgin btech 2nd year students cant help but drool at.

I get it bro/sis, you mugged up 800 LC mediums and Microsoft came to your BITS campus and picked you up because you solved a system design question in the interview which scales infinitely for infinite users. No, i dont want to enroll is PrepCracker's System Design Cohort for just Rs 69,999 and replace Hotstar's CTO.

Folks like Arpit Bhayani and Addy Osmani are the only reason I open linkedin to actually get some ground level reality of how to be a better SWE, but all i see is bhaiyya didi telling me why my resume is not getting selected because i didnt pay Rs. 1,999 for their Topmate Resume Review session.

Due to them Twitter is full of 2nd year dimwits who think swe is the only path to liberation and their bhaiyya didi will be their guiding angel. They won't. They'll turn out just like your average 3.5lpa employee at WITCH. The only way to become a good swe is figure shit out yourself and do what you love. Its that simple. Im from a shit tier 3 college. I've cracked FAANG and that too with 42 lc solved. What DSA bro?

Thankyou to the Grapevine team for building a good platform where genuine watercooler discussions take place. Deleted LinkedIn for good until i get my sanity back.

LinkedIn Gyaanis should be banned

Middle class people are not wrong in thinking that swe is a path to their liberation. I could only afford to travel to these exotic places, take up (unnecessary) hobbies, pursue gym and eat good after earning those fat paychecks because of these overvalued startups paying me

Is scaler worth it? Anyone who took it and got into FAANG?

I wannaknkw from FAANG guy.. does this life so cool jaise kuch engineer apne vlog mei bolte h in instagram.. itni achhi ghar luxury life

Hi I want to get job at offcampus Microsoft, I am cse-2024 passout unplaced.

Tell me from scratch what all skills are required to crack Microsoft,what should all i have to do? (CP,DSA...etc? )
I am ready to work really super hard 

Please spare  2min time and comment it will help me a lot

Microsoft, help me

I’m finally in Bengaluru and this city seems glitzy yet underdeveloped. What a weird dichotomy. 🫨

Grapevine folks: What are your weekend scenes?

An introvert staying alone here with no friends in the city.. would spend the weekend with myself either scrolling social media or sleeping!!

Assistant Manager

What's your take on Indians spamming open source repos

Backend Engineer

Who is that 1 LinkedIn profle you hate and why?

Mine. Never got me shortlisted for any job application.

How is the quality of scalar classes , I am bombarded with so many of their ads did any one attended, can you give a review how your career changed after attending in the age of open courseware are these classes worth it

What your opinion on scalar academy

Indian SDEs on LinkedIn & Twitter are some of the worst engineers you will ever find across the real world. Their typical value lies around:

- Cracking a FAANG/MAANG or Product company.
- Make an announcement on LinkedIn & Twitter and accumulating followers.
- Starting YouTube channel, Topmate links, affiliate marketing channels, and more.
- Rant DSA, System Design, Interview resources all day long. 
- Post daily of their office, their colleagues, candid shots, and barely getting any work done.

While this is expected out of early career professionals, it pains to see senior SDEs doing the same shit over and over again. Things don't end here — Everyone talks about creating a revolution. And the revolution is teaching DSA. 

If you are an experienced SDE and still ranting DSA, it just means that you have barely learnt anything that is of worth any value. You are atmost a "Ticket Engineer". You get assigned a Jira ticket, you bust your ass solving it, and that's it. That's your entire value. 

Its high time that these "Bhaiya", "Didis", "Bhabhis" stop ranting DSA and System Design over and over, and build something of real value. You would barely see any credible open-source projects coming out of India (but hey, we have some many contributors!), barely any Indie dev project, or anything that captures the attention of the world. 

Literally every popular SDE you might follow or see over your social media is the same. Their entire community game is a farce and designed to capture gullible college students and shill thousands of rupees out of them. You might be featured on Times Square ($40 ka showoff), but no one would remember you for anything that you built.

<Rant Over. Peace>

Indian SDEs will do all DSA and System Design chatter but cannot create any real value

Bhaiya/ Didi, please stfu. Keep your courses to you. If you really care about bringing revolution to edtech, then sell your courses for free. What you are doing is fooling the dumb gullible indian college kids. I don't want to see your randomass selfie explaining why your course is 10xbetter than the same other thousand courses. This breed is successfully ruining lakhs of students with the clickbaity crore rupee salary.

My blood boils whenever a person from NSIT/DTU, ex Microsoft/Amazon/Meta, 2021/22 placed starts preaching random gyan on LinkedIn about placement/ interview

My nephew tells me about all these FAANG bhaiyya and didi thing and it makes me really wonder whether it is a good thing for the tech culture in India. 

Like providing content is fine but with every second kid launching a DSA boot camp or Product Topmate link is probably shilling to gullible students.

Any idea?

What’s up with FAANG bhaiyya didi culture?

Recently i was talking to my senior just for fun and wanted to see what exactly is this whole thing

So he paid xxx Rupees to the person for a Call 1:1 and he asked if I'm having 2.5yrs exp I need to switch to faang
This guy '22 Passout says I will give you a roadmap for 6 months you need to pay 23,xxx Rupees I will give you a referral in my faang (He is in one of them) I have the roadmap I will make sure you learn LLD 
My senior has 2.5 exp in a startup that was listening to him and eventually said I'll think about it and ended the call

Someone who has just entered is giving advice like they have worked for 5-6 years
I've seen students in college start topmate and they are in top1% stuff
Do these things are really required 
And Ego of those is such high 
They are not realising achieving faang is part of life not the whole life

The Topmate Scam!

Topmate is the kind of scam where 3rd year B.Tech student is giving a PM course for 4500₹ to a 8 yoe Infosys Sr. Engineer. 🤣😅🤷‍♂️

Engineering Manager

Engineering manager at google
Minimum salary would be around 1.2-15 cr

Such a  shame that he is also selling course 
How much money is required ? THERE IS NO SATISFACTION 

If he wants to teach people why can't he share on YouTube
He has bright future ahead still doing these cheap things

Moonlighting at peak

Seems like course bechkar hi ghar chalayega

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