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Software Engineer

Product Management is broader and can be applied across a wide spectrum between engg / business / design / others.  
  
 Product Marketing is largely to do with growing a business through product OR marketing a business's product. Sprinklr, is likely to be the former definition, which will closely resonate with a PM role too. (many PMMs are basically Growth PMs and vice versa) 
  
 Boils down to in what context the role has been named  (product type, business type, what objective, and which team within the org )

Software Developer

Was checking springworks' job description as ive heard good things about them. Both roles seemed kind of the same. Can someone guide and tell me abkut the difference?

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So. What exactly is the difference between product marketing and product management?

Account Manager

So. What exactly is the difference between product marketing and product management?- Grapevine

I've been selected as a product Engineer at one of the op payment startups and I can't seem to understand the difference between the two similar sounding roles. Any help?

Difference between Product Engineer and Product Manager

How are they different in tech and offline/D2C companies?

What does a Product Marketing Manager do?

Consultant

What exactly is this. Every pm role I see seems more like a success role to me (in the b2b industry) for non tech early careers. No actual identification of opportunities to build. 
Ppl in this field do help me out!

What's the difference between a product manager, implementation consultant, product success mgr and product consultant?

I have been lately curious about the two PMs (Product Manager vs Program Manager).
If anyone can help with answer to these questions that would be great

Does your company have both roles?
If yes, are salaries for both on par.
If not, who gets more salary

Product Manager vs Program Manager

Product Manager

Hey folks,
I'm wondering what kinda role I should pursue next after product management. 
I'm done with this role, works vary from company to company and team to team. It's tough to make people understand the difference between pre-PMF products & mature products, and how the metrics impact vary across the spectrum. 
And this completely changes the equation of your appraisal or your promotion as well. 
I don't see myself working in the same kind of role after 5 years.
So I'm wondering what kinda role I should look out for?
My general interests are more analytics & strategy centric. What do you guys think??

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Data Analyst

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I've 6 years of experience in B2C sales along with GTM strategy. I've been looking out for jobs for the past 6 months and I am getting interviews but somehow nothing is working out. 
My skill set basically includes stakeholder management, GTM strategy, revenue strategy, negotiation along with some knowledge of performance marketing. 

I've done BTech and do not have a master's degree. 

I've been contemplating doing some courses but I'm confused between Program Management and Product Management roles. 


Can the Grapevine community give me some guidance here.

Program Manager vs Product Manager

Human Resources

Hi! I'm a fresher with about 5 months of work ex. I have previously interned as a PM and now I'm working as an engineer. I'm struggling to choose between software engineering and product management. How should I take a call?

Software engineering vs product management

Business Analyst

I ak literally unable to decide between product management and management consulting, i am i last year of my college , i want to build a great career ahead.  layoffs and recession is going on, i talked to product managers and they say it's not that much glamourous as folks on LinkedIn present it and even  you are in a startup  , devlopers first build the core then role of PM comes into play . I talked to few management consultants as well they say WLB is not that great but it's okayish most of the times . I am literally confused, i know the grass is always greener on other side but my long terms goals are money and growth in my early to late 20s and upto early 30s  , the priorities might be change after that.

Guys please help me out to choose better as I have still some months left so I can upskill myself accordingly also it would be great if you could present the future scopes ,growth and ROI in both the fields with the boom of AI.
I am open to suggestions :)

Product management vs management consulting

Hello viners,

Want to know monetary growth and career growth in product management vs product strategy roles. How would the comparison look like?

Product mgmt vs product strategy

I'll be soon shifting from a B2B SaaS early stage to an early-growth stage D2C consumer product startup. I am one of the early hires in the product function.

While I understand that there is a significant difference in the role and responsibilities of a PM in both the positions, I couldn't find many resources available online to help with this.

Would love to hear opinions from both B2B and D2C PMs on the difference in their roles. Would also appreciate any tips and advice for my new role.

Thanks!

PM - D2C consumer product

Product Management

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Note - I am a product manager too

4 out of 5 product managers will act all high and mighty of themselves, bragging their way as if they run everything going on in the company, flaunting their business degrees and being utterly disrespectful towards their team( dev design qa name it), 

Recently started going to office so the attitude I am seeing is very transparent and more visible (more with the higher experience folks)

It makes me wanna leave this hyper inflated role, thinking of I will end up like them scares me, and you have to do is speak out jargons in meetings day in day out and have a English accent of Shashi Tharoor.

Recently my manager told that this is a role where you have to very representable or very visible and act in floor as if you are the busiest person on earth and I seriously some PMs in company doing that, they walk so fast in floor as if they will fall off or would be better to have 4 legs.

I am done with this product management shit

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Hi! I'm in a non tech role at a tech company - I work in Corporate Communications. Are there others here who work in similar roles?

Non tech role at a tech company

Communication

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Currently working with series A startup as product marketing manager at 23lpa. Joined them in july at near zero increment because last company shut down. Have proven my metal here and getting extra responsibilities.

How to negotiate with them for good appraisal in the coming cycle in march.

How to ask for good appraisal

Marketing Associate

Gave an interview for Product Ops at Cred. Didn't convert, but the overall experience was great: 

1. HRs were empathetic and helpful - called after a week to give detailed feedback (covered what they liked, didn't like, what they were expecting)
2. Interviewer was also nice and keen to know more about my experience 

They were expecting a good understanding of growth and metrics, and I didn't have much experience with that, so I got rejected, but overall, it was an excellent experience. 

I have been putting all my recent bad interview experiences here, so why not also put a good one! :)

CRED - Product Ops Interview - Great experience!

Woow you must be someone really in control of your ego. Being able to appreciate a company even after getting rejected is a high quality

4yoe Engineer turned Product Manager. It's been 8 months I joined this B2B SaaS startup as an APM. Engineering team... mostly interns. Most of my time goes into execution following up with devs. Is the PR reviewed, is the bug fix deployed. No Jira, scrum, sprint planning whatsoever.

CEO runs the whole show. Only fear driven product management. I have no idea what it means to work on vision or strategy. My career has started off with a shitty foundation. Everyday I feel like quitting. What should I do? Quit right away or wait n switch to a better company?

Not sure what Product management I am doing

Sharing some reflections on this:

1. Product is not a function with a large hierarchy / multiple levels in the ladder. Managerial responsibility comes in very late in the product career and the spans are typically small (relative to other functions like engineering, sales, operations). This also means a steeper funnel to the top and only a handful VP Product roles in the industry.

2. Product is centered around technology and digital consumer trends, both of which are fast changing. This requires constant unlearning and relearning. But more critically, this also means that previous knowledge/experience hits a plateau on marginal value beyond a basic threshold (where you have developed some essential product semse and skills).

3. Product managers are also much higher-paid vs other functional peers, at comparable years of experience. This means that a PM gets to a very high salary (say, 1+ crore) by the age of 40 (15-20y into their career). Tech functions in non-tech companies (like FMCG, banking) cannot offer that kind of pay, meaning salary growth beyond a point is limited to tech-first companies / limiting addressable market for lateral moves.

All of these considererd, how should PMs think about the longevity of their careers? Unlike traditional roles, this does not seem like a "retire at 60" job. What would be the realistic age one should plan for, at which career growth and salary growth will stagnate? What are ways in which a 80%ile PM can extend their career (eg: also taking up engineering management or P&L responsibility or growth function etc., to increase scope)?

PS: this post is not for the top 5-10% PMs. They will always find roles at VP level etc, this is for the 50-90%ile bucket of PM talent.

Longevity of a product career

Will commend you on a very well written and well articulated post. 
  
 Options for the future will be apparent at ~40.  Most peak roles will be achieved between 45-50. 
  
 Possible exits: 
  
 1. Running Category roles at companies which have a broad canvas, multiple product categories. 
 2. Deputing for and eventually running a P&L or a LoB. 
 3. Sales or more critically Customer Success.  Don't shy away from revenue responsibilities. 
  
 Engineering is a sharp left turn imo.  It's not an overlapping skillset at best and don't see how that is part of a PMs likely roadmap.

Sales Manager

Investor

How difficult is it to get into Product Marketing? Is the role fun or monotonous? Asking cause I want to understand how to transition into this role.

Switch to Product Marketing

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When asked at the end of the interview, what questions do you generally ask the interviewers? There can be two types of interviewers, one from the PM org and the other from the engineering org (in later rounds) and usually senior folks. What type of questions can be asked to both types of panels?

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