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I am a dev with 3 YOE and with everything going on in chatGPT  have been going through imposter syndrome, i have friends who work at gaming companies making peanuts compared to me but work on much ...

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I am a dev with 3 YOE and with everything going on in chatGPT  have been going through imposter syndrome, i have friends who work at gaming companies making peanuts compared to me but work on much more complex problems and i feel with the level of sophistication GTP-4 has reached it can easily reduce my workload by half 
I feel once we fully integrated AI Models with our codebase it game over for most junior devs ,there is going to be a massive salary correction for software devs and rightfully so

We are paid too much and

We are paid too much and- Grapevine

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Share some jobs or function names which are highly overvalued and overpayed?

Mine. I am a DevOps engineer at a fintech startup, I write server configurations for 45L/y and I work about 10 - 20 hours a week, remotely. I keep thinking they’ve figured out how easy my job is and decided to fire me and then instead they tell me I’m doing a great job and promote me 🤌🏻

Business Development Manager

Growth Manager

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Hey fellow devs,

I'm a software engineer and I'm getting tired of the disconnect between the skills recruiters expect and the skills actually required for the job.

In my daily work, I solve problems that are mostly straightforward and don't require extreme problem-solving skills. But whenever I apply for a new role or get approached by recruiters, they always ask for "expert-level" problem-solving abilities, even when the product or service doesn't seem to demand it.

It feels like they're looking for someone to solve world hunger, when in reality, the job is more about maintaining and improving existing systems.

Has anyone else experienced this? Am I just being too salty, or is this a real phenomenon?

Share your thoughts fellow devs.

Software Engineering: Where 'Good Enough' Isn't Good Enough for Recruiters

Software Developer

They are suggesting that I buy all ai bullshit premiums.

And my teammates think that chat gpt can write a fully fledged application.

Investor

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Young SWE start with double digit salaries, while someone in Non tech will need 5-10 years to reach that level
Even the business roles, the direct revenue generating roles don't pay good traditionally

Funny how techies think everyone gets paid similar
A lot of it changed with startups trying to acquire talent, but not sustainable
Because the market simply doesn’t pay

How do non tech compete with this skewed demand-supply chain?

Tech and Non tech Pay Partiality is something no one talks about

Engineers deserve their pay.  
  
 1 - The code that engineers write are assets of a company. The code might keep running and serving customers for years after a engineer has probably even left the company.  
 On the other hand, the work that most non-tech folks do are not assets, but an operational expense.  
  
 Companies don't derive benefit of a non-tech even beyond the same month the work is performed.  
  
 The difference is the same as painting your house vs brushing your teeth. You don't paint your house everyday but you do brush your teeth. Painting here is a long lasting asset, adds to the value of the house. Brushing is necessary work but with ultimately perishable benefits.  
  
 2 - Code that engineers write provide non-linear benefits. A team of 30 in Zerodha were able to serve 3-5x more customers in the pandemic. This same scalability does not apply to non-tech majdoori. Business has scaled? Hire more heads. Not with code. 
  
  
 Obviously above does not apply to senior managerial folks who build and architect the organisation, set the cultures, create processes. The impact of their work is long lasting and non-linear. But work of junior business non-tech folks - well, they're getting paid as much as the value they create. Low leverage, low pay. Coding is very high leverage. 
  
 Before you jump on me, I worked for sales in years. Then shifted to product. Above two points are a reality whether you like it or not.

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1. You are building a software that otherwise could be built by a 12 year old kid, if given proper training.
2. You cannot code if I cut off google, stackoverflow & related websites.
3. You are just concerned about producing the output quickly because a. your work is time bound, b. you want to stand out from others.
4. You attend countless meetings that carry no value, thanks to Agile.
5. 10 people write code for the same software which otherwise could have been written by 1 person.
6. You write pages of documents just because you are expected to write for the team, compliance & stuff.
7. You don’t care about non-functional requirements as nobody asked for it.
8. You are spending hours together in coding a simple thing & you are branded a hard-worker.
9. Or you don’t spend much time in coding because you impress people with tech jargons that you learnt recently. You are branded a smart-worker.
10. The code you write will be completely rewritten in next 3-4 years just to catch up with the industry trends.
11. Your only goal is to earn loads of money which otherwise could not be earned in other engineering fields. That’s one of the reasons why you are on grapevine.

Prove me wrong if you can, by commenting your opinion.

Software engineering job is highly overrated. Prove me wrong if you can.

Tell me you are a mediocre programmer/ work with mediocre programmers /an idiot without telling me you are.

Software Architect

I thought it'd be fun to have some linkedin like professionals only app but coming over here made me realise , people here are into development or similar IT fields making an average of 2-5 LPM at least. I understand the seniors or experienced folks but even the freshers are landing much higher salaries than I as an experienced professional for over 10+ years have. I understand I'm not into the I'm under paid and it's obvious that these developers deserve what they are earning, I've no hate against any professional, it's just that I feel demotivated knowing if I had made some good choice into the career planning and selecting the correct offers and not settle for 1 or 2 interviews. 

Kindly suggest if any opening for Major Incident management profile

Looking for better opening

Information Systems Technician

It’s over

Systems Analyst

What future do you see of front end developers in next 5 years  ?

silly and hypothetical question ,yes i know.

Future

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From the last few days there were talks going on about layoffs in Morgan Stanley. Some 7% of the global staff will be handed over the pink slip in this week. 
Well... It started happening from today ... Few colleagues from my department were laid, and the reason being "company is trying to survive in the market, company is planning the road ahead by taking such bold steps".
When this was announced, my anxiety shot up the next level and I couldn't wait for the meeting to finish.
The past few years have not been great for the business worldwide due to which many companies are forced to take such steps. These companies just have been doing a hiring spree from the last 1-2 years that now they are regretting their decisions and letting off their employees.
My question is - "If a company hires excessively during the bull market and is forced to lay off few of the employees during the downturn, has the company made an error by not evaluating the headcount or it was just simply the need of the hour" 
 
Please note - I know many people out there who have faced job cuts due to many factors, sincerely requesting people to take this matter very seriously

Layoffs - A complete mess made by the companies

Analyst

People in tech are in over their heads. There’s been an unsustainable inflation in salaries and somehow 20 somethings have actually started believing their skills are worth what they’re making

I speak to so many engineers who just with two years of experience are making 30-40 LPA packages. They actually believe they are better than people in say banking who make the same salary after 15 years of grinding it out. 

It’s all supply-demand. Supply will soon catch up to the demand. Salary normalization will happen. 

Your salaries may not grow for years if you don’t personally grow as well in skill set and become more valuable overall. 

At the least, don’t have an attitude about how much you make. Stay humble. Enjoy the good times while they are still here

Rant - People in Tech have lost their mind

Is you company hiring more AI engineers? Or Firing for basic roles that can be performed using AI?

How is GPT impacting tech hiring at your workplace?

Hi non tech person here.
Wondering how such inflated salaries in tech will survive in comparison to salaries of say marketing or sales in an organisation. 
The bubble seems to be bursting but will love you know the thoughts of tech people. 
Should I make a move towards a tech role after learning coding, I have PQE of 6 years in my field and earn decent.

Tech salaries

I have around 8 years of active development work experience across multiple stacks, both front end and backend. From past 6 months I have been using GPT as assistant and must say it’s getting dangerously perfect . 
We are now able to do projects at almost half the cost. There has literally been no hiring done for 6 months without affecting productivity a bit. 

I wonder how many days before it takes over half the jobs in tech including mine.

Chat GPT is getting dangerously perfect

Tech Lead

I'm in an Indian crypto startup about 1y5m into existence and our product is in early beta right now. I've been a part since about 1y3m. I was the first hire.

The reason I'm considering a switch is because i was told we're a remote first company at the time of interviewing and after my joining they switched to in-office and all hires after me were required to relocate. They haven't made it a requirement for me yet.
I can't relocate, but now everyone except me is in-office and there's always a disconnect between me and the team. 

Decisions and discussions are done without me and I'm just told what they concluded. Sometimes even deadlines are set without informing me about the task even and i have to work/manage according to them.

I'm also technically the senior-most person after the CTO/manager (all others are either freshers or 1YOE). This has sort of restricted my growth as there's no one to review my prs or someone i can have a deep dive technical conversation with.

By how much I understand the manager and team are happy with me and my work. Also, I'm possibly the highest paid dev even as compared to the ones with the similar YOE.

I'm a frontend/fullstack engineer and the quality of work seems fine but i feel i could be doing and learning more in my field.

The culture and WLB has changed slowly for the worse as compared to when i was hired. 
Stuff like the leave policy and the whole in-office thing are the negatives.
But the manager doesn't ping me much regarding my work so that's a plus.

Switching doesn't feel ethical as the majority of the code is written by me and we're an early stage startup.
Not to mention with layoffs happening all around and a possible recession around the corner, it's not the best choice to switch i guess.

Any suggestions would be helpful!

If your company is hiring please let me know that as well.

TC - ₹18lakhs pa
YOE - 1y4m + 1y6m if you count startup contract work as exp

Should I switch?

Why are companies laying off jobs even after profit ??

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Okay, this post is not for any comparison but genuinely want to get insight on where do i stand in terms of saving among the corporate employees. 
I will go first. 
Age :28
NW : 65L

What's your net worth?

5.75 crore including flat . Not including car or jewellery. No loans or emis or debt of any kind . Age 41

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No, I'm not talking about the job market. That's dog shit -- barely any vacancies, and engineers earn 25%ish more. 

However, in a world with 10x better Co-Pilots and other GenAI tools, problem identification is going to be every employee's moat. 'Tech-Enabled' Business PMs will have the brightest futures. There's already a rise in PM-led vs Eng-led startups. This will become clearer 5-10 years down the line.

Also, supply-demand is not as skewed as you think. Everyone thinks this job is easy, and hence, a bunch of folks are aspiring PMs on LinkedIn. I believe quality PMs are still rare (personally have a long way to go).

Would love to hear more. I'm young in my career and maybe naive but this is what I feel.

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