Show your competency and you be the new manager 😅

Showing competency will lead to the manager getting all the credit

Founder

Express them you want to become engineering manager one day and looking for future in that one. Ultimately they will promote you to manager then replace the current one. I didnt replace current one but i got promoted to Engineering manager once I expressed that to CTO and currently handling 70% of engineering team and rest 30% is handled by my ex manager

Engineering Manager

Talking about incompetence, ‘manager’*

If you are in early stages of your career, 90% of your success is dependent on whether you are able to look upto your manager for his intelligence, and empathy. Whether he/she is able to make you feel good about you while pushing you to get the best out of you. Solve for finding a good manager - even if it means looking for a new role. Can’t stress enough how it will impact your years to come.

Product Owner

Below are some things that may or may not be possible  
 1. Gand chaato skip and if he hates the dude below. You're sorted  
 2. Change company / team  
 3. Live with it, shaadi thodi na hai, agar incompetent hai toh acha hai na Kam sawal pucheha

Brand Marketing Manager

change your manager or company, you cant make incompetent people competent easily.

Intern

Leave.. what else.. he didn't become manager by chance....you cant win ..

Consultant

You will be on your own bcz u know you cant trust that person 
 He/She will make sure that they get all the credit for pushing the team to do the work 
 Nobody else will be recognised, everyone know its the manager who is running this team 
 He will most probably be an asslicker and a puppet to the mgmt so yours concerns will not be addressed. 
  
 Only good part is you will know what not to do when you become a manager !

Software Engineer

Having an incompetent manager has no benefits. They will not have your back, so you'll get the shorted during appraisal/promotions. They take all the credit cause that's how they have managed to get so far. And when you confront them about them taking credit, they play dumb.  
 Leave and never look back!

Project Manager

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What to do if your manger is incompetent??

What to do if your manger is incompetent??- Grapevine

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As the title suggests, does it make sense to talk about a colleagues’s inability to deliver to my manager. The colleague’s incompetence to take ownership is very evident now to everyone and the manager is not taking any steps on it. Others have to basically cleanup and babysit him. Worse part, this colleague gets paid the highest in the team. At this point it’s just breeding resentment across the team. How to handle this situation? Any tips. Early stage startup, the manager is part of the founding team.

Should you confront your manager about a colleague’s incompetence?

Do not get involved. Try to minimise your own additional work due to that colleague. In one-to-one meeting with manager, let the manager know. Use the words: I just wanted to bring your attention to one more matter. Then describe the challenges that you face. Not your team. Do not gang up, do not conspire or collaborate. Do not mention about how other colleagues feel the same way. If your manager takes a negative opinion of these activity, you'll be fucked, because such a thing would create a negative impression. If the manager is not inclined to go by your judgement of your colleague's competence, you'll lose face. But it's much easier to control the narrative and restore your manager's confidence in you in a one-on-one conversation, than when it's a group mutiny. No matter what others tell you, do not get encouraged. People often sound like they're with you, but they often are not. They won't back their statements, and you'll be alone holding the bag. And moreover, if you stay out of it, you'll be able to carry the high ground of being above the fray, out of politics, and being balanced. Don't do netagiri of this sort. Conserve it for initiatives for which getting consensus is harder. It might be possible that you're the only one feeling so strongly about it. Then you may be in need of a weekend, or someone to vent to, or even therapy. But get your hate in check.

Product Manager

Generalist

Hey Viners, would like to know your prespective on the situation that if you face a bunch of incompetent colleagues who dont take their work seriously and the manager constantly asks you to maintain quality because of your seniority and you end up cleaning their work, how do you handle it ?

Few Incompetent colleagues

Create a toxic work environment for them that they leave themselves ☺️

Corporate Strategist

My new manager is completely devoid of common sense, an absolute yes man, doesn't listen to existing employees opinions and views who are below him, asks the same question atleast 6 times, and results in zero learning. Given the bad job market, I am stopping myself from quitting almost daily. What to do?

Dealing with a intellectually bankrupt boss

Investor

So During our scum calls with client my manager  gives update for whole team himself and doesnt let us update on the task which we have worked on ourself . Mf just grabs all the glory  in pursuit for good feedback from client side   meanwhile he does nothing technical  and during internal meeting he says you guys should speak more with client  and ALSO he ask for everyone's update on task before scrum and then pokes why is it not done even on task whose estimated completion  date/time is far away. 

So annoying and frustating .

Just a rant from your average software dev . 
Do give any solution you might have . 🙂
Thanks for reading.

Down bad manager ! Glory hunter.

Data engineer

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As product manager going through an existential crisis, I am doing some serious introspection on what I am doing in this job. After adding everything from omnichannel integration to ai assistants in the quarterly roadmap, my senior management bosses decided to spend 45 days performing legacy software migration. Now at KPI time they'll all pull out the roadmap which I made and proceed to prune my bonus. 
Any ideas what to do? Besides rant, of course.

Why do roadmaps exist?

So, my friend wanted to take up task with other team, his manager didn't want it. So the manager took him among the other team members and publicly humiliated him showcasing that he is worried as fuck about the task in hand(he was just excited) and that they are putting pressure on him(they weren't)

I started thinking, if this happened with me, I don't have a comeback, but I wouldn't wanna stay with a manager who uses his own people to get ahead. Would you?

If your manager used you as a scapegoat in a situation, would you still continue in the job?

Hello Grapeviners.

So I was put into Focus (coaching plan, pre-PIP) at Amazon. After the focus period ended I was given two options
Leave with severance
Go into PIP 

I chose to leave. So I am currently serving notice period. My manager is trying to get some unfinished work done from me. I don't want to finish it. There are multiple reasons for it. Finishing this task will benefit him more than me.I am already stressed about looking for my next job

Here's the question:
My manager says that I can provide his reference to my next recruiter/hiring manager and he will provide good feedback about me. (He said this so that I feel indebted to him and finish whatever task that he assigns me)

Do hiring managers/recruiters reach out to your previous manager? Can they reach out to your previous team members instead?

 My teammates have seen me working on the frontlines and know everything about me from my work ethic to my abilities. They can vouch for me way better than my manaher ever could. My manager always underestimated me severely. He put me into focus all because of his blindedness (this came from my teammate not me)

I dont care about burning bridges with my manager because he was toxic af. Just wanted to know if recruiters will reach out to him or not? And can I instead provide a reference to my teammates

Advice needed

My story -
So I switched to a startup last year. I was initially super excited in solving problems. Asking questions and just being curious about everything in general.
   Then, some incidents of my manager's behavior and team folks has turned me into a person who is so fucking afraid of now asking questions, doing tasks. My stakeholder communication sometimes I miss on, some things that seem to be pretty obvious had I been my competent self of previous organization, I am missing out on.
   I don't communicate well simply because I don't want to face my current manager and team. There's huge disconnect as well. I am not at all excited to work everyday. 
 
My friend was miserable in my previous org but now after switch he's damn happy and doing good!

I want to know if this is something that happens with you all? Or are you all like you fit in everywhere?
Or is it just My problem and my incompetence? Because I am always reminiscing my past org and my performance there was exceptional!

Has anyone ever faced a situation where you perform excellent in some org but not in another?

My manager is making thinly veiled threats about me taking all my allowed leaves. 

He took me on a 1:1 today and told me that I took too many leaves last year. Then he said that the leadership is concerned about this and added that while I can take more leaves if I want to, it won't be good for me. He then brought up my promotion. It felt like he was using a pending promotion to stop me from taking more leaves. 

Not sure what I should do. Is this even normal in corporate? I thought our leaves are ours to take but now I'm guilty to take a PTO even for genuine reasons.

Is this okay?

Data Scientist

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I'm working as an APM at a startup for about a year now. I work with another guy who happens to be my senior, PM and both of us report to the director.

Of late, my senior, i.e., the PM has been undermining my work when the two of us are working together, subtly taunting me that what I've done is pretty easy and non impactful business wise. He also disregards the decisions made by me, modifies the PRDs discovered and written by me and mails them as his own.

Eventually, he ends up adding me to the walkthrough calls because I had discovered the features but then concludes everything such that he had owned everything end to end.

Recently, both of us were given a documentation to be done by our manager, i.e., the director. I had completed almost 70% of that document, but in our call with the director he presented it saying that he had written that document and I had made a few changes to it.

This undermines my work and visibility of my capabilities. I don't know how to tackle this situation, my manager is usually busy and leaves it upto this PM to allocate work, which he unfairly uses.

How do I talk to my manager about this. I'm fairly new to corporate, just graduated last year and don't know how to handle all this.

But this thing has been bothering me lately, really looking forward to any advise my fellow grapeviners may have.

Senior taking credit for my work

You definitely need to talk to the director and share your concerns . Possibly separate out projects and independently handle them.

Welcome to Personal Finance's Private Community

I work with someone who constantly takes my ideas and shares them as their own. For example, if I mention an idea in a group meeting, this person then comes and repeats the same idea in other meetings to different people as if it was their own. 

This happens very often so it's not a coincidence. This person is not qualified for the job they were hired for and constantly piggy backs off my work and ideas and appropriates them as their own. I'm really not sure how to address this without coming off as petty. This has been going on for almost a year now and I'm really sick of it. Any suggestions or advice?

My colleague stole my idea and presented it as their own 🤮

Have recently started noticing a bunch of times that my manager leaves me out of meetings where key decisions are taken, related to the work that I only have done. 

I get to know this because I stalk their Google Calendar. It’s just weird. I’m not insecure or anything, I’ve been mostly rated well. It’s just odd. 

This just didn’t happen before and lately has started.
Anyone faced this and knows how to address it?

My manager is leaving me out of key meetings

After working at Salesforce India for a few months if one has the Australian PR what are the chance they can move to Salesforce Australia ? 
Will Salesforce agree to give u opportunity abroad?

What are the chances of in house shift from Salesforce India to Australia after getting Aus PR

Is it a good time to fight your manager or go against his/her decision in terms of the job market. Is there any other solution?

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