FuzzyMuffin

A sweeper gets paid 25k/month at railway. Why service based company pay the same to a fresher ?

Why do educated graduates are paid the same as a sweeper of railway ? Why do service based company do this , do they think freshers are as worthy as a sweeper ? This is a genuine question, most of the service based companies earn in billions why they choose to pay shit to a hard working student who just got a job ? This is so unfair. I feel they are just taking advantage of them.

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QuirkyPotato

Freshworks24mo

Its because it's a capitalistic system where prices are determined by demand and supply.

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

the founders talk about new generation, not working harder with that kind of money, how they think someone can survive in a metro city, also they don't allow remote work.Atleast give them WFH. They can afford to pay but they choose not to. Also if you don't pay stop bashing new generation on TV interviews.

WobblyNugget

Swiggy24mo

Their job their rules... You can choose not work for them

JazzyQuokka

Apple24mo

It might hurt the fragile egos of people who think that they have done a favour on the world by getting a degree and the world now owes them all the comfort and money, but the truth is that a sweeper adds more value than a fresher.

If a sweeper doesn’t turn up for 10 days it would be hell. Freshers - I don’t think anyone would even notice even if they are gone for a month.

Second is that it’s a supply demand balance - there would probably hundreds of freshers willing to do it for 24k.

‘Hard working student’ should try to sweep a couple of public places in this sweltering heat to understand what hard work actually is.

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

If a sweeper doesn't turn up for 10days they get replaced by a vacuum cleaner, or they can be replaced by some sort of machinery, if you think they add more value do anyone dream of becoming one of them ?

JazzyQuokka

Apple24mo

My point still remains. If fresher dosent turn up for a month then also you don’t need it to replace by anything.

There are freshers earning in lakhs if you have the talent and are smart enough. If you are a bottom of the barrel fresher then expect to paid similarly.

GoofyPenguin

Expedia24mo

That’s like comparing a 5 year old running with an 18 year old running, both are running with 2 legs then why he can’t play Olympics? Bro the sweeper is sweeping since all his life, compare a tech salary with the same experience of the sweeper and you’ll surely get the answer of your question.

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

Look up the web, a fresher with a degree and a sweeper obviously without a degree, also without exp.... gets paid the same salary.
Just tell me what skills do you need to be a sweeper? You need nothing, 0 skills.
So why these companies treat graduates like they don't have any skills.

PeppyBanana

IndiaMART24mo

Agreed with your observation regarding unfair pay to freshers. But a comparison with a sweeper is not applicable. Sweepers will get the same pay till retirement whereas IT Professionals can skill up and move to higher salaries as YOE increases.

GoofyPickle

Stealth24mo

All services companies have formed a cartel to control the salaries. There is nothing we can do. Keep on looking for better opportunities.

SnoozyPanda

VMware24mo

Because all IT services need are white collared Sweepers and since there's a huge supply available, so why not ? I remember these IT sevices (WITCH etc) paying 3-4 lpa since last two decades. Why do you think the salaries are so stagnant? Coz there is cheap labour available with no employable skills.
Why do you think they hire even graduates from mechanical/ civil/ electrical etc backgrounds besides CS and IT ? Coz they know they can minimally train them to just do the job. Jobs like Blackbox testing, release engineering etc do not really need much of CS skills. So there's win-win on both ends, people opt for any random Engineer branch, get happy when they get placed even with a 3Lpa job , and the companies can earn after minimal training since they become billable. The entire IT services echo-system is sustained coz we " less employable white-collared cheap labour" work force available.

And perhaps, the sweeper at the railway station would be working much harder than most of the IT services folks ! 🙂 So why compare 😬

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

This is true...most of the guys from other branches who end up doing this is understandable and they are exploited but it's working for them coz they are not unemployed 🥴😲😲😲 and that's how it's rolling since last 2 decades !!!!!!!! So, other engg branches are fucked up and the students end up in these companies..... BC kya chal Raha hai bhai ....and no one is doing anything about it 😔😔.

ZoomyHamster

Stealth24mo

ChatGPT, sweep the railway floor ChatGPT, write a function to do XYZ

FuzzyCupcake

Trellis24mo

Min salary for engineers should be around 50k at start .

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

Exactly, but most idiots are still hurt because compared with sweepers, but that's the reality and people are not accepting it. The amount of hard work a student does to get a job shouldn't go worthless. It takes time, effort, finance to get educated and to learn a new skill.

GoofyRaccoon

Stealth24mo

My Hostel caretaker earns 30k/month. He's only 12th pass

SleepyPancake

Idk24mo

I worked for 2 years and got 25k

FuzzyMuffin

Atlassian24mo

Didn't you feel you were exploited? And don't you think with proper skills you can earn more and change the lifestyle of yours and people who are around you and who depend on you. This mentality of ours needs to changed, we need to stop being exploited by these companies. This is not what we dreamed of growing up.

ZoomyUnicorn

Adobe24mo

Let me in you on a secret: The world is not fair. It is a race and you will always play catchup if you keep on whining. Everyone is out there for themselves. IT companies are working for the shareholders and not you. Any business will do the same what the IT companies are doing.

Demand and supply is a simple concept. Market forces decide your value. Just because you spent some money in getting a degree does not entitle you to a job or some minimum wage. If you want value, you need to upskill yourself and thus move to an area on the graph with less supply and more demand.

India is churning out more engineers than it needs. We probably need more sweepers than engineers currently. The govts across state and center have chosen to freely allow engineering colleges to open in every nook and corner. Easy enough to get a degree and then land a low paying IT job. Now the consequences of it are coming to bite back.

If you are looking to blame someone, look at yourself in the mirror and think about what were the factors you considered the last time you cared to vote in the elections.