Challenges of Language Imposition and Unwelcoming Attitudes in Bangalore
I don’t get the narrative of most south states to force their language on others. I mean people from different states in the north speak different native language i.e Punjabi, Haryanvi etc but still they can do the conversation in Hindi. Most of the people from Bangalore always come with the phrase “Go back to your state”. Someone please tell them that we are living in their state as we don’t have much choice. Also, almost 70% of their employment comes from people like us. IT companies should expand their operations in cities like Gurgaon, Hyderabad and Noida. What do you guys think about this unwelcoming nature of some local bangalore people?
"I don’t get the narrative of most south states to force their language on others."
How fair is it for North Indians to expect South Indians to speak an alien language in their own land? And, that too when English is available. Hindi speakers came to Bangalore for employment opportunities (70% going by your own data) after doing their entire education in English but can't use English as a link language? Strange. I've been living here purely speaking English and broken Kannada and never faced a single issue.
"Someone please tell them that we are living in their state as we don’t have much choice."
Correct. You made that choice. Why should they speak Hindi for a choice you made?
"Also, almost 70% of their employment comes from people like us."
Even if that number is 100% they have no obligation to speak Hindi.
@BrisbaneBunny hey just curious. English works with auto wallahs and small shop owners too?
Has always worked for me. Let's be honest, our bare minimum communication with the auto/cab driver is going to be the location and fare. They do understand the basic words like front, back, side, next, and of course all the numbers in English.
Same is the case with the grocery store/small shops as well. How much is "eshtu?" in Kannada. When they reply a number in Kannada, I confirm it by asking the same number in English breaking down the digits as like "Two Five?". They too understand numbers in English and acknowledge. I've never had a problem so far.
Learning basic words in Kannada like directions and numbers really helps. Nobody is asking us to write poetry in Kannada 😀 And they really don't have a problem if we speak English.
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D0nkey05
Stealth
9 months ago
It's like saying because domestic violence doesn't happen in my household, it happens no where. Like bro get out there and observe!
Let me break some basics for you:
- Hindi first of all isn't even a language. Linguistics doesn't agree to it. In fact, it is an artificially standardized register of the Hindustani language, by forceful Sanskritisation.
- Hindi is a language killer. By spreading Hindi, you're actually killing your own Northern languages. The best example of this is the state of Bihar and Haryana. Decades ago, there used to be more number of speakers for Maithili, Braj, Bhojpuri and Haryanvi. Hindi almost killed these languages. In fact, Central Government is trying so hard to sweep this under the rug by raising the narrative that these are dialects of Hindi, but no, because registers cannot have dialects. They're actual languages.
- Try asking your grandparents about what they used to speak in their childhood. My close friend is a Marwadi, but his grandfather always denied to speak in Hindi, saying they both are different languages. Present Hindi speakers have already killed their original languages in their home. It is like going to some woman and asking her to adopt you because you don't want your mother.
- It is you who is coming to the South. So it is on you to respect the local culture and language. You can't go to someone's house and tell that you'll cook yourself because you don't like their food. Try to going to a different country, like Japan, China, or Germany. You will be required to learn their language if you want to either work there or study there. Will you go there and ask them to speak in Hindi with you?
- Just before you say this is India and not a separate country, India doesn't have a national language. In fact, our constitution has made it illegal to claim that a language is a national language. Every language in India is regional only.
Are you seriously comparing countries with states? 😅. I have been to Japan, Vietnam and Netherlands . They never judge me and atleast, they are welcoming. Also, my mother only speaks Punjabi and still, she never disregard anyone speaking Hindi.
I have some very good friends from Bihar and Himachal. They have their own native language but still we talk, joke mostly in Hindi.
The point is I don’t have a problem learning some basics of any language (needed) to communicate but just don’t treat as an outsider and welcome us with open arms. And yes, even after that if someone disrespects your language then you have the right to express against that.
Until plebs vote with our wallets those dumfucks won't budge. Banglore is too much of nuisance.
Right bro it's the worst City to live in. That's why I left that City for good and shifted to Gurgaon.
UpsetUnicorn
Stealth
9 months ago
Good riddance..
My parents faced insane discrimination for being south Indians in Delhi and Mumbai in the 90s.
My very close friend still face discrimination in Gurgaon since he is a Muslim. Please don't try to white wash any part of the country as welcoming. The entire nation is divisive and intolerant
Agree. Where I live, the local language is my mother tongue and it's not hindi. Whenever someone comes to my mom's store and speaks only either hindi Or english. I speak to them in that language. I don't tell them to go back to their state or learn my native local language. It's that simple there's no need to be insecure. The local shopkeepers here have learnt at least 2 languages and everyone coexist happily.
UnhappyAide
Student
10 days ago
total it workforce in bangalore 15 lakhs.
hindi population in it workforce here 1.5-2lakhs.
major employment doesn't come from you, it comes from karnataka and neighbouring states with high enrollment in technical degrees
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