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So i approached a PM at klub, a revenue based financing firm & asked him about open positions. He forwarded my cv to the hr. Couple of days later, the hr called me & we had an initial discussion. Then he scheduled an intro round with a PM. I had the PM round which was completely behavioral. It seemed like he was not much interested in the interview & took it just for the sake of it. Questions like tell me about yourself, why klub, why PM were asked. 2 weeks later i called the hr(yes, there were no responses from them) & asked him whats the status to which he replied, we have proceeded with another candidate. *Here comes the interesting part* I asked him to provide me a reason because i didnt get any feedback from the PM. This is the conversation which happened He: we are looking for pm with experience in api integrations only Me: okay so why was that not mentioned in the JD He: the requirement was changed later & also you dont have the experience required(1-3 yrs) Me: so why did you contact me in the 1st place if you thought i didnt have enough experience? Also, there are 2 guys who are working at klub who are from consulting background & have no experience whatsoever but they're apm He: but you need to understand that they are from tier 1 college, bits pilani & iit madras Me: how does that make a difference in product experience? I have worked on & built real products even if its for 10 months, all they have are hypothetical case studies, its not like they have been entrepreneur at past He: no we have specific requirements & the hiring manager didn't see yours as a fit Hr will hire people with no experience but from a premium college than people with experience but from a not so known college

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What would you do in this situation

Imagine this: You have spent weeks evaluating candidates for that open role. You have put them through every test, multiple interviews - you have dissected their skills, their experiences, and you’ve finally made your decision. You are now making THE offer. The candidate sits across from you - but instead of shaking your hand he/she leans forward and says "Just so you know, I’m not an IIT grad. Never went there" Now what? This candidate just cleared all your rounds, solved every problem, nailed every behavioral question. What do you do now??? Do you throw them out for lying? Do you punish them for tricking the system into shortlisting the resume and offering them? OR Do you pause for a second and ask yourself - did I just judge someones ability based on a checklist, or did I see their actual potential? Sure your system, your filters, your standards - they all got tricked. They made a joke out of it. And it should hurt. But wasn't the process you trust so much supposed to catch the lie? If the guy is sitting in front of you, with the skills and problem-solving mindset - tested by you and your people - the same someone you were willing to make an offer a minute ago - the same someone you went gaga over a minute ago - minus the degree is still the same guy. Right?? Then did the degree really matter? Sure, his approach might be unconventional, but isn’t the whole point of hiring to get the best talent? If he could game your system and still outperform others within your interviewing standards and assessment playground rules - doesn’t that say something about him? Would you honor his honesty at the last second? Or would you punish the trickery, even though you’ve just spent weeks proving he has what it takes? Would you now question your hiring standards? Would you realize you might be filtering out great candidates because they don’t fit the “mold” you’ve built? Or do you still choose to stay stuck on the labels and shiny credentials? Here’s the real question: Did your system just fail… or did it actually work? What if the candidate rubbed it in your face and said - "And those companies on my resume? Never worked there either” Would that hurt your ego even more? your pride? So many ... Trust me SOOOOO MANYYYYY others have you missed out on opportunities because they didn’t have the RIGHT school, the RIGHT companies on their resume? So if a candidate - does exactly this - Is he/she any wrong - to shake up your system? Some of the boldest moves I know comes from a place of desperation. They come from a place of nothing more to lose So again - I got to ask - what would you do in this situation if you were hiring? PS: SocialExperiment No. 1 - I am thinking of publishing more of these - What do you think?

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AMA: Quit my job as a Product Manager at Jio within 2 months

I applied for the opening at JPL (Jio Pvt Ltd) in June of last year. Received the interview call on 4th July and concluded the entire process with the final HR round on 17th August (already painfully slow). This was followed by a period of complete silence from the HR's end, which finally broke on 30th September (after probably 30+ follow-ups) when they gave me a verbal offer and gave me confidence for the final offer release within a few days. Well, the final offer came on 27th December 2023, close to 3 months after the verbal offer (again, after probably 40+ follow-ups). Joined on 16th January 2024 (due to some emergency), and was treated to a GREAT campus in Navi Mumbai. --And this is probably where everything good with JPL ends. After spending 2 days, I understand that things are not what I expected from any Product organisation, and that I made the wrong decision. Gave myself 30 days to ensure the feelings were backed by more experiences, and I'm not acting impulsively. Day 31, I started interviewing with other organisations, and fortunately was able to get in touch with the HR from another organisation that I rejected for Jio, and they were kind enough to resend the offer letter. Dropped the bomb on 8th March 2024, startling everyone because people usually don't like leaving their comfortable lives at Jio. My L1 and L2 aligned on a 14 days notice period, but the "smartasses" in the HR department thought its a great idea for me to serve the entire notice period of 60 days, and thus I'm stuck here till 6th May 2024. Opening the forum for people with any amount of experience to ask questions about the hiring process, the culture, the turn-off, the decision to quit, ANYTHING.