DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

Is living in India worth it?

After reading replies in grapevine for dystopian policies, HR policies, work culture, companies to avoid(looks like all companies should be avoided), related questions I'm kind of regretting as I took the decision to stay back in India and not pursue masters abroad to live with my parents.

Given how pathetic the work culture is in almost all the startups(I'll go with 99.99%), politics and poor work life balance and living in a country where I don't get any tax benefits even after paying 30+% direct income tax, is it really worth living in this country anymore ? I'm feeling very sad, looks like I missed the opportunity to go abroad as I'm 25 now. Only my love towards my parents is holding me back since they both are around the age of 60 and I don't want to be the son who will make crores of money abroad and not be with them in case of any emergency. I'm don't want to leave them alone. Looks like there is no hope working in India. 😔

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PeppyRaccoon
PeppyRaccoon
Vercel22mo

Checkout r/recruitinghell, r/csmajors, r/cscareerquestions, r/antiwork. Abroad ain't some fairy land

ZestyMuffin
ZestyMuffin

Bro. Do you have some anti-immigration propaganda shit going on? You comment on literally every post that it's better to stay in India than move abroad. You're giving strong hail the supreme leader vibes.

CosmicPanda
CosmicPanda

As someone who’s been in both places

I personally would say go abroad. I know this might come from a point of privilege , no commitments , relatively young parents who run their own businesses so financially I don’t have to support them and we have people to help us with whatever we need.

However I would say go abroad because of the experience you get to new cultures and people as well as most often than not you do get a better work life culture than the ones we face here in India if we even have one. Laws are more worker friendly (white collar). You can always come back to India.

However it’s all got to do with you as an individual and your luck and determination. You might have some difficulties at the start but if you get through it you’d actually see why people run off abroad.

Nationalist pride is bullshit when there’s no benefit of you staying here. Build India , help your country is just a lot of propaganda that is fed to emotionally blackmail us , don’t fall for it. You get nothing for the taxes you pay. Stay in India only if you’re rich and powerful else move away to somewhere better. Your future generations will thank you.

DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

I'm completely agree on the Nationalist pride. Complete bullshit.

Apart from that even my parents are well off financially but we don't have any sort of help in case of any emergency. They are all alone. That's the reason I need to stay.

But I do agree with you. People should go and live abroad. They all can avail tax benefits which is largely unlikely for tax payers here in India. Even the personal health insurance which we take has 18% GST. Govt hospitals and schools are not even below average.

My hands are tied. Can't imagine my parents living without me all alone.

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana

I’m assuming you are giving this piece of advice living in India. Hahahaha…

Not sure if your views are anti-national, but they are definitely anti-rational.

WobblyBanana
WobblyBanana

As someone who has livef in both places - definitely choose India for the long run.

DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

What is there in long run ?

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi
InMobi22mo

Fewer background threads are running when living in India. Ex. Don’t have to worry about VISA, school shootings, finding a maid, random racism from foreigners, Internet charges, money transfer, old parents etc. Can spend time on things that really matter. Govt needs to improve by a few orders of magnitude for sure but with successful lateral entires like Nandan Nilekani, we should see more talented folks steering the direction of our country

ZoomyBagel
ZoomyBagel
Google22mo

Your parents' love is worth it. Didn't your parents work hard and raise you? Culture is what kept them grounded. A lot of the posts you see are from people who have been derooted from their culture, have nothing else to fallback on, and end up ranting here due to lack of other vent for stress. Your parents would have ranted between themselves. What kept them sane was their rootedness. Yes, Indians work hard. Chinese and Koreans work harder. Americans work relatively lesser and Europeans have stopped working. These have larger negative ramifications for the West, something you will see in the next 5-10 years. It's not all rosy everywhere else.

BouncyJellybean
BouncyJellybean

I get that you’ve not had a very good experience of working in India. I’ve been working in a seed/series A funded startup and an MNC. Sometimes I want to go back to the seed funded startup for good work and good colleagues. I don’t expect startups to have politics as they’ve to ship cool stuff or die. I do however get to see lot of politics in my current MNC, I keep shut and endure as I’d like to go back to a B2b startup once economic things settle down a bit.

DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

I'm working at a series D company which is making a good revenue and work culture is really very good but even you know to earn higher salary you need to keep on switching. Option of companies then becomes negligible because of toxic work culture of Indian companies. What about my tax and tax benefits?

DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

Doesn't it hurt to pay so much tax and get nothing in return ?

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana

I think this argument is purely subjective. Some people are hell bent on living abroad and some still want to live in India. I won’t say one is better over other unlike a few commenting here & it’s just the way they are trying to influence you with their own bias.

But I’m amazed at your lack of judgement.

  1. Grapevine app is meant to rant about everything happening in corporates in India. It represents a sample of people living in India that want to unleash themselves. Imagine checking the Blind app and coming to conclusion that living in the US is useless.
  2. If looking at people’s comments here makes you regret about living in India, then I’m assuming you haven’t gained enough experience yourself at workplace or you are just validating your experience.

With over 18+ years of experience, (2 years working abroad), I have seen both extremes in India(I have worked in 5 cities here), and I live in India by choice.

Working in the US or the west might make you feel like living in an elevated status, but if that is all you aim for in life then you must go for it. On the other hand working in India as an IT professional is no less a badge of honor. Yes, standards in India are still poor compared to the west, but if you want to contribute to the cause to raise the bar living alongside your parents, there’s nothing better. The choice is yours.

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

I have lived and worked abroad and in india. Now running having a startup.

India is place to be only if you are rich and can afford to live with out a job.. for a salaried job or own business being abroad is the best. You may get a bad boss there. Even thier worat boss will respect your personal time. The qorst boss will not 3xpect you to qork 12hrs a day or even look at you like you are doing a crime qhen yiu leave in th3 evening after your normal office hours. The odds of having a struggling life is rare abroad. But struggling here is a norm. Expectations to go beypnd your duty is a norm here. So bascially in india.. majority of your time will be taken by your company and most of ylthe money you earn will be taken as taxes. Patriotism and all is fine.. but we are a shitty country. Quality of life sucks. If you have expectations of any decent work life balance and managable work stress then you should have your own business that is not dependent on VC funding.

SqueakyCupcake
SqueakyCupcake

Work culture wise, let me tell you something that here it is a shithole….our management is in US but they’re still stuck with this labour extra phooking hours work mindset!

Long run obv stay in India, but career wise spend most of the time abroad is my goal…just waiting for the opportunity.

DizzyMarshmallow
DizzyMarshmallow

@Httperror404 go when things get better. you can always come back when you need to. you have time now.

DerpyQuokka
DerpyQuokka

Are you suggesting to go now or when things get better

DizzyMarshmallow
DizzyMarshmallow

wow, you have something in hand now? If you think it is worth it, then go.

SwirlyTaco
SwirlyTaco

Working conditions are even poor in many developed countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, China,etc. Just check blind to know the reviews of people working in USA. In Europe only work life balance is good but salary compared to cost of living is very less.

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