Leaks: Shocking email sent by Partner berating Associates for doing right job.
Recently McKinsey employee committed suicide. Now, CAM partner berating three bright associates for doing a job right because the partners looked like idiots. Fuck your seniority. GenZ believes in meritocracy.
samosa
Stealth
6 months ago
email sounds right to me, looks like a senior calling out mediocrity
maybe talking to them in person and in a professional way would have been better, but still LGTM
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
This is the worst way to give feedback. Would you appreciate it if you were spoken about like this and the email was sent to the entire Business unit?
samosa
Stealth
6 months ago
i would send emails like this myself if I'm done with the bullshit around me, I have actually done something similar when I was on my notice period in my past.
and in few situations, beggars shouldn't be choosers
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GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Dude, Cyril Amarchandas Mangaldas and Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas are the Top 2 Law Firms in the country.
BurnItAll
Stealth
6 months ago
Haha this is my favorite comment because it's like saying Reliance is some rando brand.
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The number of people in the comments who are okay with this just reflects how much toxic behaviour has been normalised in India
mistral
Stealth
6 months ago
True and the fucking bubble they live in . They dont how toxic are law firms in general are
SceneUnseen
Stealth
6 months ago
Yes, such idiots deserve a humiliating scolding and soft pushing out of the building in front of everyone. Be polite or GTFO. Damn fools read Steve jobs and think that’s the damn way. That idiot showed the wrong example be being a horrible person to work with.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Arya Stark disagrees.
It's all great for tech folks and robotics engineers to live in their la la land where everyone is mollycoddled.. For the rest of us, this is the way the world works....if you are incompetent, you are fired...
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As expected of a law firm partner. They are one of the most toxic PoS you can find in the corporate world - not just withtheir employees but also with their clients.
CAM is one of the biggest law firm out there. You can find horror stories about working there online.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Damn. Is that true. I didn’t know that.
BlickCait
Stealth
6 months ago
Law firms culture is like that from what I know. Just had a friend crib about it for hours early in the morning
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BiryaniEnthu
Stealth
6 months ago
Why are people calling this normal? There's a way you point out bad work, and there's a respect boundary that needs to be maintained even then.
If so many people have gone through shit like this and made it normal, we need to look back at our working tbh
WooterBang
Stealth
6 months ago
If the juniors aren't being respectful, and turning in shoddy work, then it seems fair to be called out for it.
Email seems like the sender has had enough of their disrespectful behaviour and 💩 work.
BiryaniEnthu
Stealth
6 months ago
Fire them. The last thing you would want to write something like this over uneraseable media and that too as lawyers
GlassSkin63
Stealth
6 months ago
Should have been done in a 1:1 setting but if the feedback was true (about snide comments and incompetent work), I don't see how it shouldn't be called out. I'm surprised they aren't fired if half of what's written is true.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
True true.
SecretSauceOnTheTop
Stealth
6 months ago
She kicked their asses and sent out a clear message to everyone that bullying is not tolerated. Bad ass lady
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
CAM associate spotted
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HappyFeet92
Stealth
6 months ago
That doesnt sound like ‘doing a job right’. If GenZ believes in meritocracy, may be try doing the job right
Feedback could have been shared in a better way obviously but OP looks like he/she is jist crying foul after being at receiving end
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/avaantika-kakkar-4920605_new-merger-control-and-de-minimis-exemption-activity-7171852638781747202-yFJj?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios
Whoever wrote this email is quite good at English I would say. Would like to read more content from them
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Panchatantra language
LOL.
The foul language and ranting you hear in top corporates , this seems like normal.
I have been personally chased by boss with scissors, told that they will throw me from the window in front of while floor (we were on 21st floor), thrown under the bus in front of company president by boss ( “He is responsible for the issue”, wasn’t even my project)
Have heard even worse scolding from presidents to my boss, super boss. Throwing phones at people and lot more which I can’t say.
Mind you these were not small companies but MNCs (Indian as well as foreign origin).
You can only do two things, swallow your pride and work or look for new job. Most industries in India are too small, you will have to deal with same people again in future so no point in burning bridges.
LonelyPray
Student
6 months ago
In which job , the environment is like this
Most of the companies I think.
In some fields this is across all levels (for example field sales).
In some fields you see ugly side as you get closer to the top.
Especially pronounced / common when it is founder/ family run company.
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DaringTrain
Stealth
6 months ago
Tangential, but I have to say this.
Lawyers can't handle excel. Everytime I work with them, I double check all the math, even if it means converting all pdf tables to excel
Relentless
Stealth
6 months ago
Not true for Tech lawyers.
DaringTrain
Stealth
6 months ago
Even those involved in fundraising are bad at excel
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cat
Student
6 months ago
Are you one of the three 👀
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
No 👍🏻🫡
The title is misleading though. While the language is absolutely unacceptable, fail to see what was ‘the right job’ done by the 3 maharathis 🤣
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Okay
Well calling out the person in front of the entire team for incompetent work is dumb.
But calling out a person in front of the whole team due to behavioural issues is the right way to go about because reading the email it feels like there have been various instances where the guy being called out would have made some "sarcastic" comments.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Okay boomer
FallopianTurpitude
Stealth
6 months ago
Since I'm not entirely aware of the other side of the story, it's difficult to comment on this.
Having said that, law firms have a different level of toxic culture altogether. It's horrible; the work, the hours, the culture, the seniors. The pay to work ratio doesn't match. So on and so forth.
But I can definitely attest to the toxic culture aspect, having gone through it myself at another top tier law firm as a first year associate. I don't know how I managed to survive for a year there (possibly due to the pressure of showing a year's worth of experience on my CV) but I spent 7-8 months of that time in therapy for severe anxiety. Caused by the said job. I won't get into more details, but I had panic attacks in the office. I was hospitalized for 3 days due to severe period pain and bleeding and was asked to report to the office during those three days (it was a Friday followed by the weekend FYI) because "you know we have to appear tomorrow at Delhi High Court for xx case. How can you be so irresponsible and get yourself in this condition?"
(For BG: they needed us associates to staple the papers; with the ghoos that they'll mention our names in the petition.) I gave my notice via email the next day.
The partners and managing partners are despicable to juniors. Not just them, even Managing Associates and anyone with a 'senior' title in their designation is absolutely horrible to associate and juniors in general. I swore off law firms after this experience. And I know, 'not all law firms' bleh, but that entire experience just left me with that feeling.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Now this is the real toxicity that I’m this platform was for. Which law firm is this?
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
To the woman who sent the email:
The lion, the witch, and the audacity of this bitch.
If she is right about the bullying and overall attitude of disruption and insubordination, there is nothing wrong with this mail. People need behave their age.
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Achcha?
There is always 2 sides to a story, but junior associates in law firms act no less than entitled brats in their early career years. I have personally witnessed that. So yeah, the langauge and tone of the messaging could have been much better, but if their poor execution is causing embarrassment in critical client meetings, then needs to be correct and reprimanded if necessary. How's it even meritocracy if you're erring in your tasks?
GrapeGodfather
Stealth
6 months ago
Okay boomer
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