It works if the company is one that other people want to work for

Ah i See . Are you a founder in stealth !

Customer Success

Product Owner

Looking for sales or BD roles at start ups -

I see you are a PM what does your start up solve

Been seeing this trend lately : people in start ups who are hiring or calling themselves leads/ directors etc have only less experience but they want to hire candidates with much more experience ho...

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Been seeing this trend lately : people in start ups who are hiring or calling themselves leads/ directors etc have only less experience but they want to hire candidates with much more experience how the hell are they getting hired in the first place

Clueless

Clueless- Grapevine

It takes time to understand and master any domain. You have to do something substantial. Where has the humility gone? Does calling yourself Leader increases chances of getting jobs? It’s mind boggling
And shallow.

Why are 2-3 YOE people calling themselves leader(product leader , engineering leader)?

Software Engineer

A lot of folks working at startups seem to be "passionate " about their job. Some of them possibly, truly are. Some foolishly reverse engineer this passion because they're paid really well and they've been doing a good job and it's good personal PR to say "passion".  A few reality checks.

1. Your cool Bangalore lifestyle is a result of investment risks/bets taken by VC's .

2. Your salary is as much about the market demand as it is about your " passion " and talent.

3. Startups will generally lower the bar for hiring processes to meet their demand for talent. Why need so much talent? Because the startup  needs to spend that 100M$ Series C that just made them a unicorn. That's how they convince the VC to give more money. "We are going to 2x revenue by 2xing our salesforce and buying 10M$ worth of Saas that will increase our productivity by 5x. " And boom ...100M$ transferred into you SVB bank account.

4. You are as replaceable as a garbage bag on your dustbin. The HR is probably flirting with 10 other like you over linkedin.


5. The "values" this startup apparently espouses are mostly nothing but a honey trap and positioning to lure talent.

It's great to have a nice tech job that pays well and allows you to gloat on twitter like a techbro but don't let it fool you into getting an inflated sense of entitlement. You're probably living on borrowed time....and money. :)

" Passionate " Startup folks

Product Manager

The startup culture is so toxic these days, they literally treat people like slaves now. Hiring krte time team team krenge lekin fir attitude aisa ki jaise mazdoor ho jo dihadi lene aagye ho roz, idk if its the case everywhere but i experienced it in 2 startups in NCR.

Toxic startup culture

Software Developer

Is the job market now this bad?! Scary!!!

After Unicorns now it's VCs 😁

Any idea whether this happened in India as well for their new entity ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/07/24/sequoia-talent-team-layoffs-firm-restructuring/?sh=5d3a78d925f4

Sequoia VC  Layoffs

Growth Manager

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I'm new to the job market so I wanted to understand how frequently should I switch companies when I get a better offer.

I've heard that sometimes your employer themselves will match a competing offer.

But how frequently should I do this? Every 2 years? 3?

Doing this too frequently can make me an objectively worse candidate so if anyone can tell me what's the ideal duration, that would be great.

Thanks in advance!

How frequently to switch companies for salary growth?

Founder

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So i approached a PM at klub, a revenue based financing firm & asked him about open positions. He forwarded my cv to the hr.

Couple of days later, the hr called me & we had an initial discussion. Then he scheduled an intro round with a PM.

I had the PM round which was completely behavioral. It seemed like he was not much interested in the interview & took it just for the sake of it. Questions like tell me about yourself, why klub, why PM were asked.

2 weeks later i called the hr(yes, there were no responses from them) & asked him whats the status to which he replied, we have proceeded with another candidate.

*Here comes the interesting part*

I asked him to provide me a reason because i didnt get any feedback from the PM. This is the conversation which happened
He: we are looking for pm with experience in api integrations only
Me: okay so why was that not mentioned in the JD
He: the requirement was changed later & also you dont have the experience required(1-3 yrs)
Me: so why did you contact me in the 1st place if you thought i didnt have enough experience? Also, there are 2 guys who are working at klub who are from consulting background & have no experience whatsoever but they're apm
He: but you need to understand that they are from tier 1 college, bits pilani & iit madras
Me: how does that make a difference in product experience? I have worked on & built real products even if its for 10 months, all they have are hypothetical case studies, its not like they have been entrepreneur at past
He: no we have specific requirements & the hiring manager didn't see yours as a fit

Hr will hire people with no experience but from a premium college than people with experience but from a not so known college

The mindset of some recruiters nowadays

I empathise with this person.

But

This is an important learning for all the young folks - wasting time of those fancy headline tags, regurgitating public knowledge on LI won’t help. Many hiring managers look for a person who can fold the sleeves and work, not play “advisory” roles in general. 

Focus on real work, even when you’ve free time spend it on health, friends and family. 

P.S. - This might sound preachy but I wanted to highlight when everyone wants to be a mentor before becoming a learner.

Learning : Content creation & network effects

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I feel like this is a general problem that people who join startups in really early stages face. They get hired to do a function, then once the startup picks up, someone more senior gets hired and they’re practically demoted. 

This is happening third time to me, but still haven’t figured how to deal with it. The first time, someone from Stanford got hired and I felt really insecure about it. We got along pretty well but I couldn’t take that we were of the same age and this person was managing me despite me being around in the company for longer. 

That person left, my function was changed as well and again after a year, I was layered by another person. 

I just joined a new company four months ago and feel like the same thing is about to happen. I know they’re hiring someone. Makes me feel anxious about how I’ll lose ownership of things I’ve been doing and I haven’t even gotten the chance to prove myself yet. 

Do I just wait it out? Or talk to the founders about it? I understand where they come from, they do what’s best for the company. But I feel like I should look out for myself as well.

Startup folks - How did you get ahead in your career after being layered?

Very well summarised

So true, have witnessed it first hand in one of my previous employers. They create such a strong dependency on themselves that it becomes difficult to pull out as well

Finance Consultant

Associate IT Engineer

Hi,

I saw a role at Sprinklr which is quite a good fit. Can any noble soul refer me?

Also, what is the TC range for 6 YOE for Lead Product Engineer role,if anyone is aware?

Looking for Sprinklr Referrals

Data Scientist

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Do you agree?

The storm is not AI.  
 It's the uncountable number of fresh graduates standing behind you to do the same job.  
 But due to AI and online resources the gap between you and them is very small. 
  
 And companies have realised that they can always cull the herd and still an infinite number of near qualified people are ready to step in. 
  
 And it will slowly spiral to the bottom.

How are these people getting such good offers with very low years of experience. 
I have 4+ years in FE and now just shifted to product management, my profile won't even get shortlisted, forget getting an interview. 

What can I do to increase my chances of getting interviews in good product companies and have a shot at getting 30+LPA

How do people get such good offers

Project Manager

Hello everyone reading this, quick intro, I am a 2023 graduate from deshbandhu college holding a Bachelor's degree in Science with a major in Mathematics.

Started my CAT Prep in august 2023, Left my previous job in november end due to tedious work which was not catering to my long-term goals and now, unfortunately, victim of the current job market.....since the opportunities are not very fulfilling from some time, I moved ahead with continuing my rigorous CAT Prep from january & its going really great....but due to increasing financial problems, i'm now compelled to take up a sales role in a bank's branch....I am not much interested in sales work & it was one of the reasons why I left my previous job.....but, now i'm not much concerned about it.... because i'm being advised to go with the flow for some time & take up any job on the side to manage the household.

The thing which concerns me the most is "will working in a sales role or a branch office affect my application in tier-1 b-schools?" Since i'm preparing for tier-1 b-schools only....i see no benefit in doing an mba from tier-2/3 school...neither monetarily nor network-wise. I'm really scared & concerned about taking up this job & my application in b-schools.....kindly help me out....i'm stressed out and this is causing me sleep deprivation.....

Thank you everyone for reading this!

Suggestions are highly appreciated.

Need an advice from Experienced professionals/MBA Postgrads

Do you have colleagues in your organisation( big brand) who are below average & you still think how are they still working?
I mean people doing ctrlx + ctrlv, basic excel but earning in lakhs?

Below Average Employees

This is just a prediction based on what I've been observing recently. Founder is publishing a lot of self ego boosting articles and aggressively hiring currently.

This has been going on for quite some time and they recently did some layoffs too!

These are some of the early signs when things start to go wrong.

Not sure about their numbers. And even though Indians really love gold it's not an investment. It's a hedge. 

Let's see what happens in the next 12 months.

Prediction - The next startup to fall will be Jar

So there are bunch of hirings in every org of which you have no effin idea what they do and why do they exist! Let’s start - UI/UX researcher

Thread about no clue 🕵️‍♀️

UX Researchers help in clarifying whether the Product manager was actually retarded or not in building features that he/she thinks are helpful for the users but in fact was only building it to pump up vanity metrics.

Intern

So basically like every time I see a job vacancy I do apply for it.. But I'm not sure why I never get any calls back Or mails and these days I only see vacancies where they want only experienced people like more than 5 or 10.. I mean...where am I going wrong in this job hunt... I'm having 2 yrs of exp where I have wasted 1 yr being in bench so I could say I didn't get a lot of insight for my yrs of exp.... It sucks tho.... 😢 where should I start now what should I do? Completely blank...

Job search...

Systems Engineer

Such a society we live in wheee people are given preferences on their job and titles( company name and college name) etc  ) and in the start up space this is too much.  So founders assume someone from a different experience can’t do the job based on what ? If someone wasn’t given an opportunity for once how can a decision be made ?  They only want fell top schools top companies. Look at the US and learn , seen people with diverse backgrounds been given an opportunity in fields of unknown knowledge and they have been able to achieve and do well. But these start ups here only care for branded names , but boast about diversity etc and anyone with passion please reach out to us if want to shape the future of India) bs) and when you reach out they don’t care to reply .  You are just starting and you can atleast reply . Start ups okay with paying some analyst with good package but can’t pay some one else who ants to work and learn for a lower package .

Hypocrisy

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Recently, I gave an interview at this early startup in Bangalore. It consisted of 5 rounds.
- The first four rounds were technical, design, and assignment rounds which went well. I answered all the questions fairly well and the interviewer was happy knowing the answer.

- The fifth round was with the CEO - Now this was the turning point. He was more concerned about my personal situation. He asked questions like, where I live, where is my hometown, if WFO is okay for me (I was working remotely in my current company ), and where is your dad ( I said he was no more and that turned off the CEO of a company), how will you keep my mother in BLR, why your mom not living with your siblings?. And I was like "WTF man".the only technical question he asked -> "Have you ever hacked a system in your recent days?". 😂😂

After wasting more than 14 hours in the process I received a rejection mail without any feedback.

Message to recruiter - if you are more concerned about the personal situation of the candidate, please conduct a preliminary round for that.

Clueless

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