"Baat baat pe, aage aage karna" kindoff people

Software Developer

Maintain a log for your team, mention every work anyone does with comments!.

Senior Consultant

It's impossible to fight the system in a private company. Even if you become successful doing so it usually comes with a price. You could Escalate your concern to senior leadership and seek protection from any possible retaliation. I would say, Instead of wasting your energy in dealing with these people channel your efforts into finding a new role and start making new relationships.

Product Marketing Manager

Program Manager

I think no matter what credit others, nothing can hide your actual contribution.. keep doing your good work 
  
 When you think you have hit your learning/ growth ceiling in the present company move on.

DevOps Engineer

How do you deal with people who don't work/ contribute, but will try to take credits, will do bootlicking of manager?

How do you deal with people who don't work/ contribute, but will try to take credits, will do bootlicking of manager?- Grapevine

I will go first, it doesn't matter if you really work hard on a project, in the end only result matter, no matter how much efforts you made for it

Lesson you have learned from Corporate

Software Engineer

There's this coworker who comes off as extremely aggressive during discussions and individual interactions. This is causing a shift in entire team's environment in the wrong direction. Personally this is causing me to avoid getting into discussions with them. I'm looking for ways to deal with this person and keep the work environment peaceful.

Here are some of the observations about their behaviour:

1. Highly opinionated and treat others who have a different opinion as hostile. 

2. When someone else is trying to explain something which needs to be explained serially A -> B -> C, and they are interested in C, they get restless and start badgerring with questions about C while the other person is still on A.

3. In discussions, which require a deep understanding of the product, which they do not have yet, instead of admitting that they have doubts and asking questions, they try to act as if they understood it when clearly they didn't because their senior was present. For instance, they paid attention in the beginning and then got busy on their phone during the meeting and when asked if they understood, they just told the agenda of the meeting instead of what was discussed.

4. This is what tipped me off the edge. During a meeting which didn't involve their senior, they got easily frustrated when others were giving an opinion different from theirs and pointing out the issues with their opinion. After a couple of minutes, it turned into a heated argument and they started raising their voice and started making illogical sarcastic remarks. And after a bit of that they changed their tone into rude frustrated disinterest and rudely remarked "do whatever you want to do".

So far we have tried to use humor to deescalate the situation. But this is clearly not gonna work in the long run, and their behaviour is getting worse day by day. 

I am trying to avoid a confrontation with them because it is not my place and I don't want it to get ugly.

Need advice on how to deal with an aggresive coworker

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

It's been a year I'm working with one company that has good name. But everymonth I have 40% of the time where I work more than 11+hrs (with food and all activities I work 16 hrs sometimes)

How do You guys balance this?

I tried balancing this but my manager and lead are telling that I'm not taking taking ownership these days. Earlier when I used to work more I delivered on time and took lot of ownership. But when I work less and do just my work or logout after 10 hrs it's affecting this.

Happened with anyone?

Working hours at MNC (Fortune 500) MAANG

Data engineer

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Hey Viners, would like to know your prespective on the situation that if you face a bunch of incompetent colleagues who dont take their work seriously and the manager constantly asks you to maintain quality because of your seniority and you end up cleaning their work, how do you handle it ?

Few Incompetent colleagues

Create a toxic work environment for them that they leave themselves ☺️

Corporate Strategist

I am fed up with people who try to steal other people’s credit. Be it your manager, your colleague or anyone how do you avoid them from taking your credit for the work you have done. Worst part is seeing them try hard to showcase it as their own. What do you all suggest for such situations?

Avoiding people who feed on other’s credit

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I’ve been insufferable at work since 2-3 months now. Total time at my company- 6mo 21 days. Profile - Product Management 
My engineering team seems to be taking no ownership and always have their brahmastra ready that it didn’t come from product’s side. QA again is so great that I have to sit and thoroughly test each release end to end. 
My manager- he’s quite interested in taking my career fwd as a project manager. (I am not) He’s a total asshole and is quite concerned with start dates and end dates of tasks ( mind you, I am not the one actually writing the code but somehow the dates are my responsibility). He totally micromanages and somehow keeps blaming me for each small thing.
Examples:
- My engg team isn’t taking ownership: “you aren’t keeping them motivated enough”
- This isn’t a last minute change : “Do you attend standups? You aren’t communicating well”
- The QA tested and approved it, hence we released it. : “But did you test it? “
- Here are the release notes. : “This looks too jazzy, did you copy from GPT”
- Here are the release notes. : “This looks too basic, did you not copy from GPT”

I could go on forever. 

Gust: I am quite unhappy and is causing me unnecessary stress everyday. Also I don’t feel there’s a solution possible

Should I rage quit?

Product Manager

I'm working as an APM at a startup for about a year now. I work with another guy who happens to be my senior, PM and both of us report to the director.

Of late, my senior, i.e., the PM has been undermining my work when the two of us are working together, subtly taunting me that what I've done is pretty easy and non impactful business wise. He also disregards the decisions made by me, modifies the PRDs discovered and written by me and mails them as his own.

Eventually, he ends up adding me to the walkthrough calls because I had discovered the features but then concludes everything such that he had owned everything end to end.

Recently, both of us were given a documentation to be done by our manager, i.e., the director. I had completed almost 70% of that document, but in our call with the director he presented it saying that he had written that document and I had made a few changes to it.

This undermines my work and visibility of my capabilities. I don't know how to tackle this situation, my manager is usually busy and leaves it upto this PM to allocate work, which he unfairly uses.

How do I talk to my manager about this. I'm fairly new to corporate, just graduated last year and don't know how to handle all this.

But this thing has been bothering me lately, really looking forward to any advise my fellow grapeviners may have.

Senior taking credit for my work

You definitely need to talk to the director and share your concerns . Possibly separate out projects and independently handle them.

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

Co workers and colleagues who seem OK to talk and discuss in person turn passive aggressive and boss around on Slack channels.
They use terms like “As discussed multiple times” , “despite mentioning” etc etc and when you talk to them in person everything seems fine and you start wondering why do they push others down in the first place? Is to to show seniors/managers that there’re more superior? 
How do you deal with such people? Any tips ?

How to deal with Slack Warriors

Growth Manager

You know those type of people? The ones who believe they know everything, everyone else is beneath them, but in reality are extremely stupid?

The ones who will never admit they are wrong even if you show them why? The ones who will try to demean you at every step of the way cause it gives them pleasure? The ones who you just want to punch as soon as you see them in office?

Yeah, I know you’re thinking about atleast one person while reading this. My question is what has your strategy been in dealing with these people? 

So far in my journey, I haven’t faced any sadistic manager, so that has been great, but the people, my god, some of the tech guys in my teams have been absolutely the most frustrating human beings I’ve encountered.

Ofcourse the first thing to do is to take a step back and reevaluate whether if it is you who has been the actual asshole all along, but after that, if you are still convinced that the other person is nothing but the living embodiment of satan, how do you guys go about dealing with them?

How do you guys deal with annoying assholes at work

What to do if your manger is incompetent??

My manager doesn't have any decision making, even if someone asks for 5days leave he'll go and ask COO. 

Skill wise he's null. Still he has some technical terms related to the project with the help of which he sustained till now. 

He treats us like slaves and acts as a tyrant. 

Completely badmouthing kutta with a good owner.

My manager is a bootlicker of the founder; though he doesn't have any skills

Project Manager

As the title suggests, does it make sense to talk about a colleagues’s inability to deliver to my manager. The colleague’s incompetence to take ownership is very evident now to everyone and the manager is not taking any steps on it. Others have to basically cleanup and babysit him. Worse part, this colleague gets paid the highest in the team. At this point it’s just breeding resentment across the team. How to handle this situation? Any tips. Early stage startup, the manager is part of the founding team.

Should you confront your manager about a colleague’s incompetence?

Do not get involved. Try to minimise your own additional work due to that colleague. In one-to-one meeting with manager, let the manager know. Use the words: I just wanted to bring your attention to one more matter. Then describe the challenges that you face. Not your team. Do not gang up, do not conspire or collaborate. Do not mention about how other colleagues feel the same way. If your manager takes a negative opinion of these activity, you'll be fucked, because such a thing would create a negative impression. If the manager is not inclined to go by your judgement of your colleague's competence, you'll lose face. But it's much easier to control the narrative and restore your manager's confidence in you in a one-on-one conversation, than when it's a group mutiny. No matter what others tell you, do not get encouraged. People often sound like they're with you, but they often are not. They won't back their statements, and you'll be alone holding the bag. And moreover, if you stay out of it, you'll be able to carry the high ground of being above the fray, out of politics, and being balanced. Don't do netagiri of this sort. Conserve it for initiatives for which getting consensus is harder. It might be possible that you're the only one feeling so strongly about it. Then you may be in need of a weekend, or someone to vent to, or even therapy. But get your hate in check.

Generalist

I recently started a new job. I would like to share some of the experiences I have had with my manager. I am wondering if these are red flags or if I am maybe being paranoid or thinking too much.

It was quite difficult for me to get into this company and this job. The company is quite great and I was quite excited but some of the experiences I have had with my immediate manager have made me a bit apprehensive.
I would like to share them and hear opinions about it.

Here are some things which have happened which I have not liked so far - 

1. I speak to a Senior Engineer one day and next day my manager asks me if anyone asked me to speak to him. 
2. I shared an insight about a new tool which we can use on a deployment pipeline on the overall pod (under my skip manager). My manager immediately called me and started asking my status update and replied 'Discussing 1-1' in the group to prevent anyone getting visibility of the idea. 
3. My manager pings me whenever I go offline and recently he asked me in a passive aggressive way, 'Please monitor your Teams status. It was away for most of today.' I now feel kind of paranoid to never get up as I feel my Teams status is being monitored.

Is my manager too much of a micromanaging red flag ? I started a new job and my manager monitors my Teams online status.

Yes this is straight up micromanagement and insecurity. 
  
 Just stand up to him man. The more of such things you allow him to do, the more courage he will get and more he will fuck your life.  
  
 Just stand your ground for a few times and he'll understand that you are not the guy he can do this to.

I have an onshore counterpart, one level above me. We two are setting up the project and conducting workshops. The problems I have are:

1. I work in the B shift from 2 PM to 11 PM since the client is in PST. But i login usually at 10-11
2. My onshore counterpart works in EST but logs in very late.
3. Although I work in the B shift, I often extend until 1 AM because I am preparing all the PPTs and doing research. I have to explain everything I do daily for 2-3 hours. She schedules meetings during the PST afternoon to present that work.
4. It has been 2 months of the same routine. In every weekly stand-up, she gets appreciation as if she did the work and research, without giving me any credit.
5. I can escalate the issue, but no one will listen because she has been here for 12 years, whereas I joined a year ago. She has strong networking with the leadership, which I lack.
6. I can ask for release, but I like this project and have provided solutions for some challenging gaps. I feel very bad because I work for 16-18 hours per day. She could schedule the meeting in the PST morning, but she purposely schedules it in the PST afternoon and gets the credit for my work.

PS: i saw her creating a transcript to read during the meeting

Do people like this really exist? If you have personal commitments, why come to work? Don’t you have a conscience and feel guilty about stealing credit for others’ work? Nowadays, there are many posts related to stopping gender-based reservations. Is it because of situations like this?

Struggling with Credit Thief Daily😒

Associate Manager

How to deal with an office buly who tries to take credit of my work, tried undermine me in front of manager. She never mentions if I had done the job but she exaggerates in case I fall behind, I mean I noticed this 4-5 times now. I am at this startup and I have no idea why is behaving like that with me only....she works from home so I don't even get to interact with her or to know why exactly she tries belittle me in front our manager.....

Office buly

Backend Engineer

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

I have joined this new company
Individually contribute and work with folks onsite.
I report to a manager who have multiple projects
There is this guy who is like 3-4 yrs experience but behaves like he is the boss when manager isn't around

Ruins standups every day with digressions and lengthy non sensical updates

He started trying overpower me with some nasty remarks 

Everybody is fed up with him,
With holds information, 
Treated interns as shit
Even seniors are troubled but don't confront aggressively

Got to know one of the recent left employee has reprimanded him and also shared the conflict with higher ups

They are saying no use as he behaves well with manager and his manager

I literally want to confront him and say to behave and act professionally

With his snarky remarks some of my days going bad
Being 11 years experience I feel so frustrated that I am still facing these narcissists


Please advise how to treat this prick in a good way and stop worrying


Ps I am all ok with years of  experience always feel good work place is major contribution for any ones win

How do you deal with people who don't work/ contribute, but will try to take credits, will do bootlicking of manager?

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