Very true. The reason is that there is over supply due to low barriers in entry for Sales and Marketing roles. It is very easy to enter (but very difficult to master) this domain. 
  
 Secondly, the market is specifically down for digital marketing roles as it is the first casualty in higher CAC companies. Marketing is in many ways a Cost centre and not a Revenue Centre and this realisation has hit it hard. 
  
 Thirdly, like everybody else mentioned, the macro- market conditions are not conducive for a change. 
  
  
 It is indeed super hard and it took me well over a year to get a new role and that role was not as expected too.

Does it make sense to switch to a different role outside of marketing? That would mean starting from scratch

Marketing Manager

No. Why would someone with 8 YoE shift to a different role unless they are okay with entry level pay for the new domain?

Sales Leader

It wasn't this bad pre-covid, but tbh marketing has extra competition these days because almost everyone's into marketing. Bad job market + extra competition.

Generalist

Yes, due to current market down run, the demand (openings)  is very less.

Consultant

Will doing some sort of course improve my chances? I'm a hard worker but I just can't seem to crack anything worthwhile

I have 8 years of work ex. and have been looking for a job in strategic marketing/digital marketing for over a year now. It's mentally exhausting and demotivating. Is this how tough it generally is?

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Job hunt- Grapevine

Hi Everyone,

I had to put down my paper in my current workplace without any offer in hand. I have 2 months notice period to look for a job. 

I know, I know, I knowwww it isn’t a sane move with how the job market is, but the culture was too toxic to continue.

So I am reaching out to this forum to help a pal. Please comment below or DM if there are any opening in your circle. Will connect and discuss from there.


Looking for roles in Marketing/Brand Marketing/Field Marketing Manage/Integrated Marketing

Profile brief:
Retail and B2B marketing strategist with expertise in user acquisition, demand generation and product positioning across multiple channels.

Total workex: 8 yrs
Sales and Marketing Workex : 4 yrs
City: Bangalore only

Resigned w/o a new offer!!! Need Help!

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

Struggling to land interviews. I have been applying for months now. I feel it's very competitive and the bar is higher.

Your thoughts? Suggestions to land a decent job in this market.

Feeling frustrated and hopeless day by day.

Role : Data Analytics & Engineer

How's the Job Market 😔

Software Developer

Fresher with good and relevant internship experience, I'm getting rejected for some job roles where I am overqualified(not being cocky)

For job roles, I'm excited about there's work ex needed but one seems to be giving me the job, how will I get work ex? I have sent LinkedIn DMs, cold emails and what not but still nothing. I am getting rejected or worst no revert.

I have worked and want to work in the marketing&brand side preferably learn from senior folks in the industry but seems impossible in this market.

No one's hiring

Intern

I have been actively applying for marketing jobs, the situation seems very dismal. Packages are pretty low, companies are not ready to pay above 12 lpa.

Without an MBA, you will suffer. With an MBA, you will suffer but will have a loan to make life worse. 

What to do in the next one year to earn more than 30 lakhs

Salary issues In Marketing

Digital Marketing

Hi Grapeviners, I have ten years of work ex in performance marketing and CRM. I started job search actively from Feb 15 this year and landed first interview today. 

How bad is the market out there. I usually get hired with in 30 job applications, also I apply to the role only if 70% and above role match with my previous experience also use referrals when available.

Also please roast my resume https://stonedmind.tiiny.site/ have redacted wherever necessary to stay anonymous as possible. For the first time in my career I have a doubt that my resume might not be upto the mark

Please let me know your views in the comments. Any help is appreciated.

To land 1 interview it took 60 job applications

Being a tier 3 college grad, It took me 700 applications to get 25 shortlists, and only 7 interview calls. Converted all of them. 
  
 Sometimes you’re just not allowed to participate in the race 🙂

Product Manager

Growth Manager

Context: 10.5 YOE, Marketing lead. I've been looking for a switch since September last year. I'd seen signs of maybe my role or the company itself folding very early and knew 'twas time to bolt. But it's not that easy. Back then - 1 year in a startup meant hey not bad, people still spoke to you and considered your profile. These days, they treat you like Ebola if you've not had your ass stuck in the same place for 3-5 years. 

Anyway, so the majority of my time searching for jobs was the shitty Easy Apply or IIMJOBS premium account route. Suprise suprise. It doesn't work. But hey I was still employed and not nearly as motivated as someone who's unemployed. 

Cut to layoffs: Got laid off with my whole team and a huge chunk of other leaders. My first layoff, felt hilariously like the last day of school. To the org's credit they gave us 3 month severance, leave encashments and extra months for those who'd been there for 2 years+. In hindsight hearing the horror stories of 2k severance from Byju's. I'm grateful for the nice golden parachute I got. I'll be honest, it contributed heavily to my mental stability. I had time, I had leverage, I didn't have to run for the first shitty opportunity that came my way. 

The How I did it (why you struggled through the above stream of consciousness) 

- Wrote to 159 founders with one pagers to 35 of them with ideas on how i'd lead their marketing function. 5 replies. 3 interviews. 2 offers - didn't take em cuz they were super early stage or diff cities. This is immediately in month 1 so I've already started feeling icky about not getting great brands to have in my set. 
- Easy Applied to 768 (I ran a Gmail search, this is a real number) jobs. 99% no responses or you've been rejected. 
-Kept changing one letter on my Naukri.com profile, got me 6 calls, 3 interviews and 1 conversion 

I think theres a word limit to posts 🥲 following up as comments below.

Finally got a job (here's the do's and dont's)

Part 3 
  
 - Add HRs and hiring managers on LinkedIn, send them free ideas and strategies. Its ok if they steal them it meant they were great. One of them will refer you, remember you or hire you. 
 - Have a CV and a summary (half a page) that gets people excited about wanting to read the CV. Only areas of expertise and bullet points for results  
 - Don't put the OpentoWork filter on your LinkedIn DP. Its radioactive. I know people actively avoid those profiles. But make sure to keep open to work beacon on for recruiters. It pushes you ahead  
 - Dont post low effort i need a job because im laid off, i dont have money, copy pasted by millions on Linkedin. If you're gonna publically ask for a job, make sure that post has enuff of your skillset screaming for a potential hirer to want to explore more. Else you'll get velle gadhe typing CFBR 
 - Dont be anal or choosy about interviewing, i literally gave 35-50 in 3 months that culminated in 4 offers. Each one taught me something, heck ive spoken to startups with 7 peeps in it  
 - The only one that can negotiate CTC is the one that can walk away. When the offer i wanted finally came, my fixed went down a tad, but variable increased. The role was worth it so i didnt bother negotiating. Places i wasnt excited about - oh i quoted 30% hikes and got it at one place :p

Brand Marketing Manager

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Hi friends, 
It's been a long and hard winter for me to be honest, I've lost a lot of hope and motivation and I just want one change to make my life a bit better while i still can. 

Have about 4-ish years worth of work experience (that isn't directly a SMM role) but am super passionate and can work very hard, please help w any referrals?? 

Thanks again

Looking for digital/social media marketing roles

Copywriter

How is job market for Digital Marketing and growth for B2C.  Most of the interest first or mobile first companies are not hiring or hiring at very less exp. and pay.

Can see opening for B2B or product marketing but nothing much from Growth or Performance marketing.

Read there are many who have been laid off some more than 6-8 months but still struggling to find the right opportunity.

Also many senior level guys, on LinkedIn have got into consulting or Fractional CMO roles as they package might be high and no one is in need of such experienced senior ppl team. 

How or when this will change ? 

During 2018 or even 2020 many said Digital or growth marketing will be the future, demand will increase as all business, users go online.. but now seems to be other way round..

Are Digital Marketers finding Job ?

People who are recently doing a job search, how difficult is the current market
Especially for generalist roles- Program Manager, Founders office, Product managers. 

Also, how do you secure referrals.

Any tips would be helpful

Thanks

Job search

Welcome to Personal Finance's Private Community

I have close to 2 years of work exp at a boutique investment bank, I'm trying to make a switch and till date I haven't gotten a single call back, it's been few weeks now, just wanted to understand if this is how the process is or there's something wrong with the market rn?

Is the job market that bad?

IB Associate

I used to work in a start up in Bangalore, they overhired in 2022 and overpaid the freshers, more than the experienced engineers were getting paid.
To fix this put 30% of workforce on pip, laid off 20% I was one of them. 2 months later, they did open layoffs, did it again in 2 months, and one of my friends there heard the founders cracking a laugh that even the investors wouldn't have expected us to do this so fast.

I joined another company, they lost the client I was hired for, and few more clients, I was told they will have to do layoffs and my name is in the list. So they asked me to resign and I refused by saying we'll consider a last working day, if I get an offer I'll resign otherwise anyway I'll have to be laid off and they agreed. This happened one month after I had joined this company ( also a startup ).


So, being laid off once was already a big enough punch of reality, with an education loan on my head.
I joined another company and got laid off again. Tough shit.


I ended up getting an offer before my lwd.
I am not from any IIT, I am not an exceptional engineer. I am very bad interviews, my resume usually doesn't get shortlisted.

Sheer volume of effort I put made the impact on me getting a job.
Right now I am the best job of my career, with a better management.


Trying to say, it's a tough time. But you'll get through it.

PIP then laid off, again laid off

Can relate op I got laid off twice last year. Got trauma because of that 💀. More power to you

Software Engineer

Recently received 5 rejections from FMCG and Retail Companies, for roles where I am a good fit and responsibilities which I am already handling in my current role and company. And all 5 of them gave the same reason, that I lack experience for entry level executive roles in marketing? Even though I am about to complete 2.5 years in the industry. I am really frustrated.

Am just sick of hearing 'We are looking for more experienced candidate'

Marketing Associate

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

I have done MBA from 7 years of work ex and switched into product management later. I have been struggling for the last 3 years with switching jobs every year post MBA.
 I am not able to find any anchor or goal. Further, wfh doesn't help either 😭😭. I was planning to connect with people who empathize with my situation, any guidance or help.

Is there someone with 10 years of experience who thinks, he is miserable in his current job and dont know what he wants to do in his life?

It's been so difficult these days.

All I want to do is get out of the rut I'm in. 

Upskilling, working, interviewing, applying, cooking food, working out etc is sooo draining. Some days, I just want to sleep. 

I don't know how you all do it. 
The rejections and the hot weather don't make it easier. 

Any advice?

How do you all manage to interview/look for a job while working full time?

Account Manager

I am looking for a job outside India(Aus/Singapore) or something remote (company based in the EU and doesn't require to be in EU) and I can work from India.
I have been rigorously applying for 3 months now but I am not getting any responses or only getting rejection emails.
What could I be doing wrong or is the market not good for this zirp-era-like conversions?
Any suggestions would help.
I am applying for customer success roles (for EU, only the ones that require only English).

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Customer Success

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

So basically like every time I see a job vacancy I do apply for it.. But I'm not sure why I never get any calls back Or mails and these days I only see vacancies where they want only experienced people like more than 5 or 10.. I mean...where am I going wrong in this job hunt... I'm having 2 yrs of exp where I have wasted 1 yr being in bench so I could say I didn't get a lot of insight for my yrs of exp.... It sucks tho.... 😢 where should I start now what should I do? Completely blank...

Job search...

Systems Engineer

Is it possible to land a PM job in the current market if I have 2 months and aggressively look for jobs.

By Aggressively I mean, not just easy apply on Linkedin or even rather any org’s job board but actively sending cold emails/dms to founders, product heads and hiring managers and also trying to utilise professional connections. 

PM with overall 5 years of experience across Product (3 years), Marketing and Strategy/Business.

How hard is it?

I have 3.5 years of marketing experience at two crypto companies- CoinDCX and Juno finance. Led and scaled organic channels ( social, brand, PR, product campaigns) at both of them. Come from Tier 1 Bschool. 

Last working month was August last year. Had some personal emergency so didn't focused on job search. Right now, looking out for relevant opportunities but struggling to get strong leads ( due to previous industry- crypto , and startups not hiring much ) 

Open to work in same industry or switch to a different industry provided the role is relevant to me and to the company as well. If you are hiring or know someone you are hiring , can DM or share email below. 

Or do share any suggestions to find a job that had helped you ( till now - I connected with most of connections who are mostly in crypto and some cold DMing on LinkedIn)

Struggling to get a job

I am a '21 graduate from a Tier 1 college (old IIT) and have had short stints as product manager at a couple of startups. About a year back, I decided to startup but after a few months, realized that startup idea wasn't worth pursuing. 

Researched around a few startup ideas and finally landed upon a good one in D2C space. But the problem is financing. I don't have much saving and friends / family network wouldn't be able to finance this. I really want to pursue this idea but finance is becoming a hindrance. 

So started looking for job opportunities about 3 months back. I have been exploring work opportunities in product / founder office / EIR roles or other generalist role. 

Job hunt process has been frustrating to say the least. Getting very few calls. In most cases, people are ghosting after couple of rounds of interview or assignment. In some cases, after getting through 2-3 rounds, I got to know that opening has been closed temporarily. Most HRs don't even have the decency to give feedback. 

I don't intend to work in job for long anyway. As soon as I have the job, I plan to start working on my business idea and quit as soon as I have enough financial leeway. 

How should I go about job hunt process? I have been trying to connect with folks on LinkedIn in whose company job openings are there. Apart from this, I have been connecting with founders from recently funded startups. Naukri / Instahyre and IIM Jobs are other portals I have been looking on. Anything I should do differently here? 

Looking forward to hearing your suggestions / experience.

How bad is the job market?

Just a advice: 
  
 Never do the assignment for any company.This company will ghost you every time after the assignment or will offer lower pay / lower position. 
  
 Companies just try to get ideas via the assignment

Saw this post today & although i appreciate the guys' perseverance, is it really worth it to spend THIS long for another job? I mean i am unemployed for 7 months now & I'm thinking about expanding my search for similar opportunities(PMM, DA, BA).

Does this mean something is wrong with his approach or his skillsets aren't good enough?

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