a background check:  
 I was earning quite well already prior to joining the IIM. I think about dropping off every single day :/  
 just pushing things for the IIM tag

Associate Product Manager

almost everything!! the hectic schedule, poor management lacking basic manners and emotions for students and a lot moreeee

Product Manager

can anyone else also relate? put some perspectives, I really wanna know what you think.  P.S: It's been almost 3 months here.

Welcome to Higher Education's Private Community

can anyone else also relate? put some perspectives, I really wanna know what you think.

P.S: It's been almost 3 months here.

Life @IIM sucks

Life @IIM sucks- Grapevine

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Ok so don't say go for next year best option as I don't have one, it's with a baby IIM or this.

So currently I'm in IIM Mumbai Sustainablity Management course, and I have zero knowledge about it, not even enough to have an opinion on do I like it or not. 

So now I'm just doubtful is this a right decision, all the experienced folks out here please share how can I make a good career out of this and switch in future. 

Also if anyone working in a similar sector please share what kind of roles I can expect, career growth in near future and what pay i can expect.

Joining a kinda Old IIM in a niche field but not interested.

Reading reports of students from IIM Blr and Lucknow struggling for internships. Does anyone have any insights on the real scale of this? Any insights on the ongoing fulltime placement season for 2024?

IIMs struggling with internship?

Executive Director

I recently came across some articles.

https://medium.com/@srikanthp2019/the-intentionally-hidden-truths-of-iim-calcutta-3fc36cfd7e30

https://www.reddit.com/r/CATpreparation/s/JZm34iaRt2

Does ragging of such scale where the seniors time and again disrespect the juniors and humiliate them really happens at top B-Schools( i m talking about IIM A,B,C,L,K,I, FMS, XLRI etc) l.

I am from one of an old IIT and haven't faced any ragging or harrasment from seniors over here apart from the freshers party where the seniors themselves told that if you are not comfortable then you can leave. Not one incident after that. Instead it has been a total opposite scenario and the seniors are too helpful here in a variety of ways. I have friends in IIT Bombay, Kanpur and Delhi and they too told me the same thing.

I was very surprised and astonished when I found out that kids age 18 years old aren't engaged in ragging at IITs but adults age 23 years+ doing their MBAs are doing the same at IIMs.

PS: I plan to pursue an MBA from an IIM in the future but such incidents are a big turn off for me hence I wanted to know the reality.

Ragging at Indian B schools.

I have done my MBA from a tier 3 institute and find it a little difficult to make into strategic positions in my organisation. 

Has anyone found themselves in a similar situation in the past ? If yes then what was your roadmap to get into strategic positions in your organisation. 

Does the second MBA ( especially an executive one from tier 1 institute) make sense. 

Would love to listen to different perspectives here.

Does a second MBA make sense ?

Hi! 
Anyone here who has worked at or looking to work at Political Consulting? This is a relatively new field. Would appreciate views of people who have worked here about the industry, the nature of work, scope of career progression, ityadi. 

Thank you.

Political Consulting Roles

Co-founder

Is going to ISB worth it??

Analyst

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

The current scenario of MBA grads from non IIM colleges is literally so bad. 

They have to agree on working free of cost for SIPs just to get an experience on their resume. 

Unlike IT engineers they have to go to office 5/6 days a week, in cities like Mumbai. Honestly this is the most jarring part of the life. 


I really hope that you consider this while pursuing for MBA , going abroad is not a bad option in my opinion.

MBA aspirants

Software Engineer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

Rant alert: 

Have you felt the same way? How many years of work ex after which you started feeling this way? 

Stability and money I’m grateful for. But I hate the constant comparison and competitiveness among peers/colleagues. Makes me want to quit and do a Teach for India fellowship. A little corporate detox. 

Wish I had become an athlete instead. I know it’s not an easy life, but It’s the kind of competitiveness I’m inclined towards. Not inclined towards the kind where you compete with people to please a company that will never care for you as a human. But people fail to recognise that, lose perspective, and lose themselves too. People have no class in this shitty world. If I have kids, they’re definitely becoming athletes and not entering this hellhole. 

Most ironically, I’m borderline considering an MBA to escape the corporate life for 2 years, but obviously I’m aware I will only get entrenched further in it due to the degree.

Corporate is not for me

I can't seem to relate to much of the non-FAANG junta out there. I mean I have a cushy job with probably 0.1% pay of all SWEs(pretty much like all of us do). But these cookie-cutter roles have been taking a mental toll on me. Like I am getting paid but I feel a little purpose-less. What am I gunning for in this life? 

All my life I wanted to go to a good college to get into a good company. In college I wanted to get a good codeforces rank so that I could get into FAANG. Now that I am in FAANG I have nothing to look forward to. 

Any of you all feeling this way? Because I don't see myself offer-shopping and feeling much happy about that either.

Feeling depressed at Amazon(2YOE/41L CTC). Anyone else feeling the same way?

Take this work a pinch of salt, not to be triggered. 

I work in a company with a good number of folks working in product, growth/ strategy. Many of which are from tier 1 Indian business schools or some even from abroad. 

Paid hefty, I just don't see them being that smart. Putting way too much time into presenting something instead of getting work done. Jugaad method of calculating target metrics, ever changing requirements (low on clarity) is just the norm. 

I was someone who looked upto these colleges and wanted to be in one after having a good 5 yoe. Now I'm not sure. Hoping to be proved wrong, so there's no need to fire your guns at me :)

ISB, IIM Rant

Data analyst

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What are the unique problems that you faced working as a PM in a startup at various stages vs the ones in corporate?

Problems faced by a PM in a startup

I graduated from an old IIM where I wanted to work in the finance domain. But I am stuck in an IT job where I am not even using my teachings of MBA and it is a job equivalent to a BTech Grad (Oracle EPM). For this reason I thought of opting for Bank SO. Planning to do it for 3-4 years which will set my career in core finance and help me switch to a different and strong finance job in future. But I am having doubts as it will be tough to handle my education loan. Where I would be earning half what I am getting here in my post IIM job. (Will be getting 60k pm in my SO whereas I am earning 1.2L pm currently in a toxic environment and in a state where I don't understand the language)

Is it good enough to opt for a Bank SO after IIM?

Finance Consultant

Insight #1:
"Build as much pedigree as you can."

This means going to the right schools, the right clubs, the right academics and the right extra-curriculars.
This also means that you need to get good brands on your resume early and fast. Working in NA, EMEA, Singapore and Australia is typically a plus point.

You typically need to go to M7 schools or IIM-BLACKI or ISB to even have a remote shot at getting in.
This means great GRE/GMAT scores are a necessity. This also means that you need to really nail your LORs. Finally, you need to have exceptional spikes that changes the way people perceive you and your potential translating into a resume. 

Insight #2:
"They care about optics a lot."
The way you look, speak and conduct yourself is probably the biggest thing you can do to improve your odds of getting in. Being at the right places is important. This means if you are already in social circles with Management Consulting folks then some of their habits will rub off on you. This also means that playing Tennis, going to the Gym, going Golfing/Squash/ whatever rich guy sport, the right parties, restaurants and clubs is an underrated advantage.


Insight #3:
"Prepare for Case Interviews"
Case interviews are a crucial part of the consulting recruitment process. Practice solving case studies and seek guidance from mentors or resources to improve your case interview skills. 'Case in Point' is your fucking bible and you need to make sure that you can work your way around guesstimates and reach a conclusive solution in an insight driven manner.

Insight #4:
"Be prepared to walk away."

MBB is not the end of the world and you can out do your peers in terms of Money earned per unit effort spent easily in other fields. So, don't care about what happens. Double down on your Plan B instead.

But if you want to travel the world, walk shoulder to shoulder with some of the smartest people in the business then it is not a bad option. 

Picture: From one of my trips to Bangalore(2023)

How to get into McKinsey, Bain and BCG as a Management Consultant? -By an ex-Management Consultant at Bain

Management Consultant

I am currently the only PM at a very small Agri-Tech startup. I did my MBA from an IIM.
I am currently getting 12 LPA with 18 months of experience.

I wanted to know if I am underpaid. If yes, how should I prepare myself to get referred to better companies?

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I got to know about this online, any ideas what is the scope and validity?

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