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Perhaps we need to enforce an 80 hour workweek

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Let's ask Modi ji to make this a law.

Everyone should work 84 hours per week. All of us have wasted too much time in the last 10 years already.

84 hour work week

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It’s should and will always be about how productive those hours actually are. 

You see, no knowledge worker puts out more than 2.5 to 5 hours of real work in a day. That’s 12.5 to 25 hours of productive work in a week. The rest? It’s just meetings, updates and moving things around.

Five-day work weeks? If you’re measuring by butts in seats, sure. But if you’re looking at actual output, it’s a joke. We need to obsess over productive time, not clocking hours. The attendance/week hours mindset is a pseudo-metric killing the workforce, making us focus on quantity over quality.

Think about it: As a knowledge worker - your days are filled with meetings, status updates, and email threads. How much of that is real, impactful work? Very little. We’re stuck in busyness, mistaking it for productivity. But then again, if orgs obsess on outcomes only, employees will call them out: 'You don’t see my effort to go from A to Z, you don’t acknowledge it.' Hence, orgs measure you by hours. And for those thinking, 'Pay me by hours, overtime factored in' – great on paper, but useless for knowledge workers.

IMHO, we are way more more comfortable measuring by hours than outcomes.
We rave about deep work, about focus hours, but in reality we laude how long someone stays logged in. 

Weird isn't it.

The real debate isnt / wasnt about how long the work week should be (70/60/50/40).

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14 hour work day proposal

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I do agree with him though. Can't build great things without putting in great amounts of work

140 hours

*when you are building your own 
  
 Not working for someone at salary and fixed working hours

Tech Lead

Anyone else doing 80-100hrs a week here?

He's a founder and possibly gets salary and stock dividends in millions of dollars every month. He can most certainly work 80hrs a month.  
  
 Founders usually work a lot, hence the pay. There's nothing new about it.

Analyst

So, this company I have an offer from seems great culture wise. I asked some members for red flags and they said its a software they use that tracks them for 8 hours and takes screenshots every 10 minutes. I have no experience working in companies with this implementation earlier. Can anyone shed some light on whether this may be a deal breaker or not? Heard mix responses from current employees that it’s hard to clock 40-42 hours a week and takes away our personal freedom. What are the thoughts?

Monitoring employees

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Listen folks, you should totally work 70 hours over two weeks. Most of you do already. 

If you factor in lunch and some tea breaks that you normally take during the course of the day, the most productive hours you put in are about 7 hours a day for 5 days a week. So 70hrs is totally doable. 

Prove me wrong.

Working 70 hrs should be the norm

Companies with 4 days work week?

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Yes, we should all work 70 hours a week so shareholders can make 70 millions a week and then at the first sign of trouble they can lay off 700 employees a week 😂

Sales

With all the things going around including companies taking employees for a ride, why do you think officials in governing bodies are not solving for labour laws slightly even in favour of employees? 🧐
How can private folks help or influence officials to change the labour laws. 🤔

Until then we will always see folks feeling cheated by their companies, big or small. 😥🫣

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