Product Manager

Show me the data 😟... Said my boss once

Here is how it will go:   Market will recover  There will be more liquidity with companies  Companies will want to grow rapidly again  Growth will require new projects to succeed  CEOs will want re...

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Here is how it will go: 

Market will recover 
There will be more liquidity with companies 
Companies will want to grow rapidly again 
Growth will require new projects to succeed 
CEOs will want responsible people 
They will hire Product Managers

So yeah, PM jobs will be back big time

Product Management jobs will make a big come back this year 2024

Operations Analytics

Product Management jobs will make a big come back this year 2024- Grapevine

Everyone and their mother became a product manager in the last few years. How safe are these jobs in a recession. I often hear (from engineers who don’t hide their disdain for PMs so maybe a biased opinion) that they are the first one to let go. Is that true?

Job security in product management

Lately I am observing trend that product roles are going down, not many company believe in hiring product roles. At least small/mid startup wants CTPO roles and they want someone to play dual roles, primarily tech led products roles. Pure product roles is becoming lesser. Even few bigger MNCs have fewer products roles to offer. Is it just me? Or grapevine thinks same as well?

Product roles are going down

Lawyer

How does the market demand for product managers in the short term? Do you guys see any reduced demand for the role? Difficult to find any openings or difficulty in clearing the interviews?

How true is this?

When will this product manager have openings in India.any idea?

Product manager recession Kab end hojayega

Biggest query:
Does this career move make sense? Or should the aim be towards a Manager position after spending 6+ years in Product Management?

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Management Consultant

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Consultant, Investment Banking went from sought after careers to fads post 2008 crisis when the world realized that these folks are crooks due to their role in propogating the Great Financial Crisis.

Given the backlash tech companies has been getting and global layoffs, will Product Manager also become a passing fad?

Seeing lot of anti Product Manager sentiment on this app off late. Was Product Management also a fad?

Someone here said engineers can become PM but PM can't become engineers. It can't be more correct than this. But reality is, it sounds goods only in theory.  
  
  I asked this same question to my director, why have you hired us when engineers clearly know more about products than us and are capable?  His answered that before the organisation formally created a team of product managers, it was only engineers that were handling product for decades. But that resulted into substandard products being developed, chaotic product release and consistent drop in revenue. The reason being engineers became backlog managers and engineers beging engineers, never focused on business value. Instead, they focused on technical aspect heavily. Engineers never bothered to check if what they were developing will actually sell in the market or not.  
  
 And mind you, this was a product that all of us use in daily lives. The numbers of users in India alone would be millions. So to summarise, yes, engineers can become PMs but generally they stay loyal to their pedigree of BE/B.Tech and become very shitty PMs. They like to have more technical conversations than strategic discussions and hate things that are not quantifiable, subjective. And business facing people here in forum would know, things are always not quantifiable in business planning, market outlook. It is based on assumptions.  
  
 An excellent PM would be someone who is an engineer but knows how to focus on business value of the product, make it customer oriented etc. I had the pleasure of working of one such PM in my last stint and he was truly outstanding. CEO knew him personally and this is in an organization with thousands of employees

Program Manager

Almost every other post about PM function is as eye opening as this. What do you guys think?

PM future seems bleak?

Hello! I am an entrepreneur who has 4+ years of relevant experience as a business analyst and of Product Manager. I am looking for a PM opportunity, as I could not scale my venture.

My experience was majorly focused in the growth domain with e-commerce and SaaS projects. I have completed a couple of PM courses to brush up my knowledge.

I have applied for 200+ companies in the past month, but did not hear back from anyone.

Kindly share any advice so I can upskill myself more effectively. 
Also please share some insights on how I can get referrals from my network.

PM - Skill enhancement/ Career growth

Up until a few year ago, PM was a sought after profession. The idea was company needed product managers to drive overall product strategy and execution. But recently, I have seen service companies posting openings for PMs. In some of the interviews I have appeared in the past, when asked what is the product I will work on, the interviewer said we don't have any products, it is projects!

I believe companies have rebranded business analysts, project managers into product managers. How do you think situation will evolve in next few years?

Is product management now commoditized?

How's the product manager's job market right now? Is this a good time to switch if you are a PM with about 1 year of work ex?

Job market for PMs switch

Associate Product Manager

Met a PM from IIT / IIM with 4 years of experience. He is working at a  well know soonicorn at a salary of 17  lakhs per year . He used to draw 30 lakhs per year in his last role before we was laid off . Interesting Times ahead

PM Salaries Have Crashed.

A minute of silence to all the grapevine polls where salary expectations are so high 😁

Growth Manager

Product Owner

How's the market for PMs across all levels?

How's the market for Product Managers now?

Software Developer

I am reading very often that the craze around product management is too much and this career is not worth the hype. Adding on to that it has huge supply of PMs and many of PMs are underpaid. Is it true?

Is product management as career reallyworth the hype?

Intern

How's the PM job market now? Is it expected to improve? Been struggling since 6 months now. Not clear on how to manage career.

Product Manager job market

Which are the best companies to target for Product roles in days to come. 

Would want to prepare in a way to land in those companies.

PM Jobs

Me and my friends aren't even getting shortlisted for an interview.LinkedIn isn't working, direct referrals isn't working. After multiple rounds they just decide to go the other way. And this is happening with experienced talent. What the hell is happening!

Rant:What is up with hiring market for product!!! It's way worse than developers. I know that a general comparison scenario but past few months it's gone super downhill.

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Here’s a brief intro about me: I’ve worked as both software engineering manager & software technical architect over the last 18+ years on various tech stacks managing backend, frontend and a little bit of cloud. I have seen ups and downs in the software industry. Currently I’m working as a senior architect in one of the product based companies in India.

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