It is a function of the people on this app, maybe. For example:  
  
 You would not find Footballers frequenting LinkedIn, are you trying to say that other fields are more important than playing football for your nation?  
  
 That they don’t even warrant a section on LinkedIn for only Footballers. 
  
 If other professionals get on the app then Ofcourse they will get their own spaces to discuss.  
  
 Somehow it feels like you’re trying to find reasons to be offended.

I’m not offended, just wondering why people from one section decided to bunch up together, and others decided they don’t want a platform?

You don’t know what you want unless you see what you want. :)

Product Manager

Mechanical, Civil, electrical folks died the day they graduated in this country 
 Then everyday they mourn their own death in this app and similar communities as PMs, generalists, unemployed, therapy seekers, nth career transition advice seekers etc 
 They are all around us but they are no where 
 Ram naam satya hai

System Engineer

Software Engineer

Just thinking. It’s weird how less importance is given to making physical things happen in the world around us.

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Quick question, are fields other than software, finance, design so much more important than others such as mechanical, civil, electrical; that they don’t even warrant a section on any platform for discussion?

Quick question, are fields other than software, finance, design so much more important than others such as mechanical, civil, electrical; that they don’t even warrant a section on any platform for discussion?- Grapevine

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

I see that this channel mostly contains threads that are irrelevant to real software engineering! No one talks about building software or designing stuff. Is salary discussion and a job switch what most Indian Engineers really care about? 
Hoping to see more discussion on stuff like

System Design, advance data structures, Databases, optimization techniques, leetcode questions, programming languages, Cloud Concepts, Machine learning, Microservices, Certification preperation etc.

Why no one talks about Software Development?

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Would you rather be an Engineer learning how to Product or a Product Manager learning how to Engineer?

Answer is obvious mate. And it's already in motion. 
 Everyone knows current product management breed is a messed up fraudulent bunch. They will run into poverty if they don't change ways🙂

Founding Engineer

Hi, just reaching out to people working in core technology and engineering (Not IT, Consulting, PM, UI/UX People) for general discussion on the state of R&D in India, your pay, comparisons to IT folks by your family friends etc.
You may be working in R&D as an engineer or building some deep tech product as an entrepreneur
Non exclusive list
Mechanical/Chemical/Material engineers
People working on Drones/Robots/Transportation/Defense Tech

I am missing a lot of fields here, but I believe there are lot of communities out there of software engineers, design folks, MBAs, not much of the hands on engineers in India

Shoutout to Core/Deep Tech People

Robotics Engineer

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I have three younger cousins. They don't want to code. They have their clarity. They don't want to pursue any particular engineering stream as well. 

They want to get a decent paying job. Let's say 6-8 lpa start with a path to 15-20 lpa in 4-5 years. 

I tried advising them to not invest a lot of money and four years of time in engineering. Their family is average middle class financially. I told them that I'll advise you what all to learn like content writing, seo, data analytics etc. So do a simple course, save money and rather invest in something that matters for job. 

They did listen but did not get confidence to act. 
All three went for engineering stream. These are private colleges with tier 3ish names. Now they don't get time to put a lot of time because 8-4 is usually college time. Unlike tier 1,2 college where you get campus and a lot of freedom, the colleges usually have a lot of classes and compulsory 80% type attendance. 

Did you face similar situation? What did you advise? Do you think I was giving them right decision?

Did you try advising your cousins not to pursue engineering if they don't want to code?

Your advice is misleading. You don't become a best in class data analyst if you can't code. SEO is a shady business and there isn't growth. Even a PU graduate can do content writing or SEO. Engineering is like a passport. You use the degree to make your career. The number of people earning 20L with 5 yoe with a non engg degree is pretty low. I empathize with the 8-4 struggle. I have seen such people, but they are still better off by doing engineering than anything else. There are other core engineering career options in non-software industry, but you will have to be competitive to secure a decent job even there. There are banking, insurance etc. Even these require people to be competitive. There is no free lunch. May be in European nations, but these won't last long.

Analyst

Even after so many layoffs, low salary of  engineers , the craze of engineering is not going down.
Every year 10lack students are writing jee , even if half of them will do engineering somehow then where will they get jobs ?
It is just increasing the saturation of the market, which eventually decreases salaries,
And now this AI
God knows when it will come to an end 😮‍💨

Craze of engineering

Trying to think about how the lowest common denominator's problems can be solved.

Major issues that still persist in slums -

Housing and rehabilitation
Plumbing
Toilets
Water access

Could there be modular houses built/assembled in a day or two out of cheaper and lighter materials that are more durable than mud/dirt? Shipping Container houses being laid down using a crane was my initial thought, but cranes are hard to fit inside narrow lanes, so assembly might be better option.

Instead of constructing a complete cement and brick building somewhere, maybe some Lego housing would be easier. Might be possible to stack upto 2-3 floors. Maybe a porta-potty optional variant where plumbing for toilets isn't available. Rainwater harvesting and solar panels built on the roof maybe. Sink water should collect for use in toilet flush like it happens in Japan.

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Apart from housing, for employment I was thinking about upgrading the hand cart that Indian hawkers use for selling veggies , street food etc. They are a pain to move around and use because they're bulky.

Features I'm thinking about adding -

2 floors of the cart, one where motor is kept (with storage area next to it) and second where stuff to sell can be displayed above the motor floor (some hand carts already come with a lower section but it is usually open). Covered on all 4 sides.

Once work is done, stuff can be stored inside the storage area on the motor floor, while owner can sleep above it. Convenient for those living away from home. Locking it up from inside instead of outside when sleeping in the cart, like an airplane lavatory lock. One seat in front of the cart with a steering wheel.

On the roof - solar panels that can charge a battery to operate a small fan, LED lighting & a charging port/plug for phones and small devices. Not sure if the panel can power the motor for a large cart, maybe electric motor if it can. Otherwise petrol/diesel motor.

Thoughts?

Any mechanical engineers here who can answer a few questions?

Product Owner

Last 3 years of startups have been all about SaaS. I just don't get it. So far, it was about solving real problems at scale.
First with consumer websites (google etc), then software, then shopping & delivery (amazon swiggy zomato fk etc etc) 

And now, it's all SaaS:
- Imma build a startup to help white businessmen in America do better billing 
- Imma build a 360 degree feedback tool specifically for Norwegian miners 
- Imma build a SaaS software to help HR people note down who isn't dressed properly
- Imma build a software to help hillbillies in the US better manage their trucking company

Like how are smart people in India taking up entrepreneurship to build these ideas that are dull and feel like the end of life? How does anybody become excited by this? 

is it just money? what am I missing?

SaaS: Why are people so attracted to it? (mini rant)

Humans mind are not trained to understand exponential nature of any trend.... Currently people are mocking AI because current models are not that good. However people are unable to see the double exponential trend with which AI is improving without any slowing down of scaling laws...Ray Kurzweil was indeed right! 

Hence it would be more prudent to plan a career  path not by keeping capabilities of current models of AI in mind 
but by understanding how capable AI models would become in 2-3 years.

Gemini Pro 1.5 launched! New model just a week after launch of Gemini Ultra 1.0.Has 10M token context window, can perceive and answer questions about 10 hours of video, or 100 hours of audio, or 300K lines of code...

Engineers take the credits on engineering,
Designers on design aspect, Etc.

Product managers don't can't usually own something and the sense of winning dosnet come very much along.

Ever feel like what you do is of no worth?

Support Specialist

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Young SWE start with double digit salaries, while someone in Non tech will need 5-10 years to reach that level
Even the business roles, the direct revenue generating roles don't pay good traditionally

Funny how techies think everyone gets paid similar
A lot of it changed with startups trying to acquire talent, but not sustainable
Because the market simply doesn’t pay

How do non tech compete with this skewed demand-supply chain?

Tech and Non tech Pay Partiality is something no one talks about

Engineers deserve their pay.  
  
 1 - The code that engineers write are assets of a company. The code might keep running and serving customers for years after a engineer has probably even left the company.  
 On the other hand, the work that most non-tech folks do are not assets, but an operational expense.  
  
 Companies don't derive benefit of a non-tech even beyond the same month the work is performed.  
  
 The difference is the same as painting your house vs brushing your teeth. You don't paint your house everyday but you do brush your teeth. Painting here is a long lasting asset, adds to the value of the house. Brushing is necessary work but with ultimately perishable benefits.  
  
 2 - Code that engineers write provide non-linear benefits. A team of 30 in Zerodha were able to serve 3-5x more customers in the pandemic. This same scalability does not apply to non-tech majdoori. Business has scaled? Hire more heads. Not with code. 
  
  
 Obviously above does not apply to senior managerial folks who build and architect the organisation, set the cultures, create processes. The impact of their work is long lasting and non-linear. But work of junior business non-tech folks - well, they're getting paid as much as the value they create. Low leverage, low pay. Coding is very high leverage. 
  
 Before you jump on me, I worked for sales in years. Then shifted to product. Above two points are a reality whether you like it or not.

Consultant

Indian SDEs on LinkedIn & Twitter are some of the worst engineers you will ever find across the real world. Their typical value lies around:

- Cracking a FAANG/MAANG or Product company.
- Make an announcement on LinkedIn & Twitter and accumulating followers.
- Starting YouTube channel, Topmate links, affiliate marketing channels, and more.
- Rant DSA, System Design, Interview resources all day long. 
- Post daily of their office, their colleagues, candid shots, and barely getting any work done.

While this is expected out of early career professionals, it pains to see senior SDEs doing the same shit over and over again. Things don't end here — Everyone talks about creating a revolution. And the revolution is teaching DSA. 

If you are an experienced SDE and still ranting DSA, it just means that you have barely learnt anything that is of worth any value. You are atmost a "Ticket Engineer". You get assigned a Jira ticket, you bust your ass solving it, and that's it. That's your entire value. 

Its high time that these "Bhaiya", "Didis", "Bhabhis" stop ranting DSA and System Design over and over, and build something of real value. You would barely see any credible open-source projects coming out of India (but hey, we have some many contributors!), barely any Indie dev project, or anything that captures the attention of the world. 

Literally every popular SDE you might follow or see over your social media is the same. Their entire community game is a farce and designed to capture gullible college students and shill thousands of rupees out of them. You might be featured on Times Square ($40 ka showoff), but no one would remember you for anything that you built.

<Rant Over. Peace>

Indian SDEs will do all DSA and System Design chatter but cannot create any real value

I often wonder if as a software developer, I'm not making much of a difference in the society. Sure, our company as a whole makes an impact, but individually, it feels like we don't have any visual effect in society.

When I see doctors getting so much respect and making such a big impact, or when I notice the good deeds of IAS/IPS/ Army Officers, I can't help but question what I'm contributing to society except paying taxes which too are eaten up by corrupt politicians. 🥲

Social respect of a Software Developer

Software Developer

My company acts like developers are the sole reason the app ui exists. I’m not trying to diss them, it’s a team effort, everyone is involved. 

But when features go live it feels like nobody gives a shit. If it does well, devs get commended. Design is never given any recognition. It feels like no matter how much we do, we’re never contributing enough to be considered impactful even if numbers are going up. Is this the case everywhere?

Do all product companies treat designers like they don’t do much?

Product Designer

I was wondering what are some good questions to ask the interviewer at the end of the interview? They always end up with -"Do you have some questions for me?". To which I often ask the following - 
1. What is your responsibility and day to day work look like?
2. What are the tech stacks that you are using?
And sometimes - 
3. What are you looking for in this role? 

The 3rd question is mostly for hiring manager. I was wondering if you could share what questions do you ask. It would be great if you could break into - 
INTERVIEWER IS A
 1.  senior dev
2. Team lead/Architect/CTO 
3. Hiring Manager
4. Director

I look forward to your amazing answers and learn from it 😍

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