Most of it is doing and learning on the job. These posts are more towards people who want to make a transition into the role. The smartest PMs I’ve worked with have zero interest in self branding and are comfortable in their own skin. In contrast, a famous PM influenza with 30k+ follower who waxes eloquent about PM with memes and jokes has not been able to get promoted nor break into a Tier-1 Tech first company.

Product Manager

Hi Folks, coming across on linkedin lot of posts by PM Influencers and it is literally overwhelming. How to separate good content from the annoying ones. Can an aspiring PM fix to few consistent qu...

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

Hi Folks, coming across on linkedin lot of posts by PM Influencers and it is literally overwhelming. How to separate good content from the annoying ones. Can an aspiring PM fix to few consistent quality resources and do quietly PM work.


Are quiet PMs able to learn more on product management.


Day by Day Linkedin posts on PM by PM Influencers are shitholes.

Quiet PMs

Software Engineer

Quiet PMs- Grapevine

Coming from a SPM.
Lifecycle of most PMs:
1. Become a PM
2. Keep posting same trite content on LinkedIn
3. Then register yourself as a coach on some PM community.
Nothing against them but frankly none of them ever post a content or article on what features they have launched or worked upon.
Forget any launch,they won't even share the domain learning.Most of the time it will be the copy pasted content from Marty Cagan and Shreyas Doshi

Too much bakar from PMs

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

There are lots of videos and blogs from US PMs, but nothing from Indian PMs. What am I missing?

How to know about Product Management in India?

How do you search for PM roles? Apart from the usual (LinkedIn).

PM Job Search

Its been a few good years of product roles being adopted in Indian companies big & small, 
Yet they remain the most random wild cards.

From skewness towards just tools (SQL, Clevertap, Jira etc) to absolute monstrosity in 3 years exp + MBA + tech background for an APM role 🤡

Latest trend is domain experience. N years in Retail, Erp, Cloud etc. 

Golden days of free entry and learning are over. 

Let’s see how things go if the role even survives in its current form(s).

Evolution of the product role

Is there a PM community without people posting on asking for referrals, salary expectations or how to crack into PM?

I understand these are pressing pain points, there are millions of places where these pain points can be addressed and already gaining more attractions.

Product Managers need a community to share and learn the experience from other Product Managers. Let me know, if any community like that pops-up. 

Please don't get triggered by this post, I have been through the phase of cracking into PM & interviews so I understand the situation.

There are different communities, please try it and it has high response rates too.

Another PM community filled with job referrals/salary

Is it just me or even anyone else who's noticing that there are too many PM courses. And the courses are portraying as tho every Tom, Dick and Harry can become a PM. Linkedin is flooded with teardowns. What y'all think ?

Hello PMs- share some of the best blogs/ podcasts on PMing

Software Developer

[Thread] What is the one thing you could add to PM, so that it doesn’t become the HR of jokes?

What are different options available as side hustle for full time employed PMs that would not create conflict of interest with regular job but can leverage already existing skill set? Got any ideas?

Side hustle for PMs

Welcome to Business Roles's Private Community

As a PM I would say it is to delivery high quality product in less time. 🕰️

What is the biggest problem you face in your daily job? Please mention your role as well.

Wdy think about this take on PM careers by amul.exe? Is future this grim?

Eg. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39699100 is a discussion between SWEs. There is a sub-reddit Indian Developers but not for Indian PMs (or Designers or ML persons for that matter).
Are there discussion groups for Indian Product Managers?

Where can I find quality Indian PM discussions?

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Product managers are a divisive bunch. Ask us what we do, and most of us puff our chests and babble about Steve Jobs, PMF and god-knows-what. The rest slouch and mumble something about writing JIRAs.

Curious about how non-PM folks view us - both good and bad!

What do you think of Product Managers?

Met a PM from IIT / IIM with 4 years of experience. He is working at a  well know soonicorn at a salary of 17  lakhs per year . He used to draw 30 lakhs per year in his last role before we was laid off . Interesting Times ahead

PM Salaries Have Crashed.

A minute of silence to all the grapevine polls where salary expectations are so high 😁

Growth Manager

Product Owner

Lately I am seeing a lot more people talk about the fact that being a PM is a sub optimal strategy for an eventful career in Tech. However, let me remind you that people in tech tend to be predominantly engineers and they like the people skills needed to be good at making Products for actual humans.

I have personally witnessed PMs be great at talking to various teams in Engg, Design, Analystics and Operations. They are so good at talking that they forget that they actually need to work and not just speak all the time. I feel that PMs are all talk but now work and just chill around the foosball table all day. Once in a while they will go and flirt with that new chick that joined their team. In case the joke wasn't clear, "PMs are the cesspool of Tech". 😂

We need PMs more than you think...

Hello! I am an entrepreneur who has 4+ years of relevant experience as a business analyst and of Product Manager. I am looking for a PM opportunity, as I could not scale my venture.

My experience was majorly focused in the growth domain with e-commerce and SaaS projects. I have completed a couple of PM courses to brush up my knowledge.

I have applied for 200+ companies in the past month, but did not hear back from anyone.

Kindly share any advice so I can upskill myself more effectively. 
Also please share some insights on how I can get referrals from my network.

PM - Skill enhancement/ Career growth

With the recent influx of talent who are trying to enter the world of PMing just because they overheard that PMs are CEO of the product, and they get paid really well, the bar throughout the industry is decreasing. 

While we need more PMs, I feel most of the 2-3yoe PMs i'm meeting either for interview or guidance are more like COGS in the wheel. They are doing more and more of Program Management. Any PM at any level should spend atleast 10-20% of their time thinking about product vision, and how will the world look like if their product succeeds in 1y). 

We need folks like Anuj, and other senior veterans, to come up and train the middle management of most of the companies to really improve PMing as a function in India

Future of PMing in India

Hey GV folks, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I'm a product leader at Zomato, managing a team of 8 PMs. Today, I want to share a practice that's become the cornerstone of our product philosophy - and it all started with me being "punished" by my first manager.

At the cost of self praising, this is some really good advice so I hope you’re able to extract the maximum value out of this.

Five years ago, I was a cocky new PM, fresh out of a fancy consulting gig. I thought I knew everything about our users based on data and surveys.

My wake-up call came when I royally screwed up a feature release. Instead of firing me, my manager did something unconventional - she made me spend a week as a delivery partner.

I was pissed. Riding around Bangalore in the March heat, navigating traffic, dealing with hangry customers - how was this supposed to make me a better PM? But on day three, while waiting for an order outside Truffles (fellow Bangaloreans, you know the wait I'm talking about), I struck up a conversation with a few seasoned delivery partners.

What I learned in those 30 minutes blew my mind. They shared hacks they'd developed, pain points I'd never considered, and insights about customer behavior that no amount of data could have revealed. I realized I'd been building features in a vacuum, completely disconnected from the real world our app operated in.

That week changed everything. I rewrote our entire product roadmap based on what I learned. The results? Our delivery partner satisfaction scores shot up, and our order completion rates improved significantly.

Since then, I've made it a point to spend one day every month doing deliveries. It keeps me grounded, provides constant insights, and reminds me who we're really building for.

When I started managing other PMs, I knew I had to institutionalize this practice. Now, it's mandatory for everyone on my team to do a delivery day once a month. No exceptions.

At first, there was resistance. "We have data for this," they'd argue. "I can't waste a whole day delivering food!" But after their first experience, they got it. Now, our team meetings are buzzing with insights from the field.

Here's why I believe every product manager should regularly step into their users' shoes:

1. Data doesn't tell the whole story: Numbers can show you what's happening, but not why. Real interactions reveal the context behind the data.
2. Empathy drives innovation: When you experience user pain points firsthand, you're more motivated to solve them creatively.
3. It challenges assumptions: Nothing humbles you faster than realizing your "brilliant" feature is actually a pain to use in the real world.
4. It builds credibility: When you can say "I've done this myself," your team and stakeholders listen differently.
5. It's a reminder of impact: In the daily grind of KPIs and metrics, it's easy to forget that we're affecting real people's lives. This practice keeps that front and center.

Some practical tips if you want to try this:
- Don't just observe. Actually do the job.
- Engage in conversations. Users (and front-line workers) are usually eager to share their experiences if you show genuine interest.
- Look for workarounds and hacks. These are gold mines for product insights.
- Pay attention to the environment and context in which your product is used.
- Reflect on the experience immediately after. What surprised you? What frustrated you?

To my fellow PMs out there: when was the last time you truly stepped into your users' shoes? If it's been a while, I challenge you to give it a try. You might just find your next big product breakthrough while waiting to pick up someone’s 1 am order from Empire :)

P.S. Took a photo while waiting for my order, would probably have been fired long back had it not been for this evening!

Why I make my PM team deliver food orders - no exceptions

Why does your post sounds like some made up bullshit Gyaan I see on LinkedIn everyday.

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