The inverse of this is the truth. We get many ideas, execution is the key.

Product Manager

Product Marketing Manager

Mind you this is coming from an early stage PM who hasn't even spend an year in the role!!

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This still counts as one of the most stupid post in my LinkedIn feed from a PM

This still counts as one of the most stupid post in my LinkedIn feed from a PM- Grapevine

Hi Folks, coming across on linkedin lot of posts by PM Influencers and it is literally overwhelming. How to separate good content from the annoying ones. Can an aspiring PM fix to few consistent quality resources and do quietly PM work.


Are quiet PMs able to learn more on product management.


Day by Day Linkedin posts on PM by PM Influencers are shitholes.

Quiet PMs

Software Engineer

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

Coming from a SPM.
Lifecycle of most PMs:
1. Become a PM
2. Keep posting same trite content on LinkedIn
3. Then register yourself as a coach on some PM community.
Nothing against them but frankly none of them ever post a content or article on what features they have launched or worked upon.
Forget any launch,they won't even share the domain learning.Most of the time it will be the copy pasted content from Marty Cagan and Shreyas Doshi

Too much bakar from PMs

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I got a decent hike and better job/brand. My current role is wfh until they call, but new role is in Mumbai. 

Initially I was not sure had a convo with parents whether to take it or not. After discussing all this, finally when I said I'm gonna accept my mom broke and started crying. (Cause I'll leave for mum then) 

In dilemma what to do? 
Not sure if right forum to ask 

She had her bypass surgery last year

Mom cried

Story of my life. Had an offer from Mumbai. Good enough hike and a profitable company. 
 Resigned from my previous job. Last day passed by.  
 My father had passed away due to covid and she would be alone when i left.  A day before i was going to leave, mom went into shock.  
 Had to reject the Mum offer and so I am now jobless, looking for opportunities near hometown.

Analyst

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its advertised as minj CEO role but what is the reality?

Why is Product Manager becoming dream career for many?

LinkedIn Cringe : SDE teaching PM after learning from course. When this pandemic of unwanted mentors will end? 🥲

As a PM I would say it is to delivery high quality product in less time. 🕰️

What is the biggest problem you face in your daily job? Please mention your role as well.

Is it just mine or is everyone’s LinkedIn blowing up with absolute crap. Like the most basic thing people are posting and making it sound like they discovered something huge or they’ve found some crazy insights. 

Everyone is trying to build their own LinkedIn brand and it’s just become frustrating. 

A lot of recruiters/founders still put out hiring posts on LinkedIn 

Some funny posts - 

- All founders acting like they’ve achieved something huge by being on the Forbes/times now/etc 40 under 40 list 
- Today someone posted about the business model of Shyamji Chole Bhature 
- People copy pasting the same fake stories

LinkedIn Rant

The day I don't have to open LinkediN any more to look for jobs, is the day I'll have accomplished all I need to in life 🙏🏼

Intern

Founder’s Office

This PM Bhaiiiyyyyaaa ❤️❤️❤️❤️ has 124k followers on LinkedIn

I empathise with this person.

But

This is an important learning for all the young folks - wasting time of those fancy headline tags, regurgitating public knowledge on LI won’t help. Many hiring managers look for a person who can fold the sleeves and work, not play “advisory” roles in general. 

Focus on real work, even when you’ve free time spend it on health, friends and family. 

P.S. - This might sound preachy but I wanted to highlight when everyone wants to be a mentor before becoming a learner.

Learning : Content creation & network effects

Consultant, Investment Banking went from sought after careers to fads post 2008 crisis when the world realized that these folks are crooks due to their role in propogating the Great Financial Crisis.

Given the backlash tech companies has been getting and global layoffs, will Product Manager also become a passing fad?

Seeing lot of anti Product Manager sentiment on this app off late. Was Product Management also a fad?

Someone here said engineers can become PM but PM can't become engineers. It can't be more correct than this. But reality is, it sounds goods only in theory.  
  
  I asked this same question to my director, why have you hired us when engineers clearly know more about products than us and are capable?  His answered that before the organisation formally created a team of product managers, it was only engineers that were handling product for decades. But that resulted into substandard products being developed, chaotic product release and consistent drop in revenue. The reason being engineers became backlog managers and engineers beging engineers, never focused on business value. Instead, they focused on technical aspect heavily. Engineers never bothered to check if what they were developing will actually sell in the market or not.  
  
 And mind you, this was a product that all of us use in daily lives. The numbers of users in India alone would be millions. So to summarise, yes, engineers can become PMs but generally they stay loyal to their pedigree of BE/B.Tech and become very shitty PMs. They like to have more technical conversations than strategic discussions and hate things that are not quantifiable, subjective. And business facing people here in forum would know, things are always not quantifiable in business planning, market outlook. It is based on assumptions.  
  
 An excellent PM would be someone who is an engineer but knows how to focus on business value of the product, make it customer oriented etc. I had the pleasure of working of one such PM in my last stint and he was truly outstanding. CEO knew him personally and this is in an organization with thousands of employees

Program Manager

1. Screenshot of an Easy Apply job having 1000s of applications. "The market is bad" 
No Easy Apply made it too easy

2. 100% hike in Impressions after one post after being dormant for weeks

continue this

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Consultant

Just curious how LinkedIn’s internal staff would be going through this :)) 

Bro if you know it’s annoying why the hell it’s still live??

Most annoying feature

Savage LinkedIn post

Le linkedIn influencer agreeing with their own post

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Pure bullshit takes this person's been offering since past month on LinkedIn. Amazes me how distant are VCs from real life

Founder

I've never used anything else other than Product Manager as a title even though I was a PM and became a senior PM. People are using Product leader, Product Evangelist, Product Enthusiast and more irrelevant s*it. Do recruiters even care?!!

This still counts as one of the most stupid post in my LinkedIn feed from a PM

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