Well It is kind of a red flag on the company. If their employer brand was so strong, they wouldn't have to worry about you not joining.

Software Engineer

Recruiter

already got 2 offer revokes in past month due to this. IT Job market is a circus rn

Frontend Engineer

I have heard that many companies have started doing this but one shouldn't join such companies.

Software Test - QA

Going through the interview process for a company, and they are simply not releasing the offer because they fear I will look for other opportunities, even after I have clearly stated I don't have a...

Going through the interview process for a company, and they are simply not releasing the offer because they fear I will look for other opportunities, even after I have clearly stated I don't have any offer in hand, and just want me to reduce the notice period which is a fair demand I feel everyone does it. 

I get partially we are to blame for this no trust, but there has to be some level of trust, every company has notice period policies.

Why do we have so little trust these days?

Why do we have so little trust these days?- Grapevine

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I am highly annoyed by double standards and hypocritic behavior of companies while hiring for Notice period.

Almost every company wants immediate joining or asap joining and they will definitely ask or encourage you to negotiate notice period, etc.

However they themselves would not have allowed a single employee to leave early or waive off notice period.

I sometimes feel to ask them, that i am sure the employee who's replacement or position i am being hired for would have also asked to waive off notice period, did you allow him/her? If no, then why do you expect another employer would do something different.

I mean, my current employer asked me to negotiate notice period when i was leaving my previous organization, now if tomorrow i resign, i know they won't waive off a single day.

If anyone else have good experiences, answers around the same. Please do share.

Double standards of companies while hiring

Equity Research

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Company has a 90 days notice and i getting very less calls due to this. Putting 30-60 days notice on job portals increased the opportunity but I am bad at lying and when i tell them officially its 90 days , they just run away. How to deal with this?

Also my company dont believe in buyouts or early releases🙂

Tackling 90 Days notice period?

Data engineer

Hi folks, 
I have been searching for a job over a year in the field of Data Engineering on GCP.Whenever I receive call from recruiters I was being completely honest with my notice period(NP) that it was 60 days but recruiters were looking for immediate joiners from 15 to 30 days. After informing the recruiters that my NP is 60 days I wouldn’t receive the next call or a schedule for an interview. 

This was the case for over 6-8 months. Realising that I’m running out of time, I decided to lie on my NP that it was 30 days or I’m an immediate joiner and I could also negotiate the notice with my current company. I had attended few interviews after bluffing on my notice and finally cleared it 3 weeks ago. The new employer is asking me to join in the first week of Sept but my notice ends on first week of Oct. 

I tried negotiating the notice with my present employer by talking to my manager and HR but they are adamant and won’t relieve me in the first week of September. They are also not accepting the buyout option which is available on the Offer Letter. 

If I tell the truth now to new employer then they will lose trust and integrity in me. I asked for an extension of few days but the new company is not ready since they want to kick off the project immediately. 

How to navigate this situation ? How to convince either my old or new employer ?

Problem with negotiating notice

Talking about the new obsession with one nation and one xxxx, a thing that actually matters to us fellow employees is one nation one month notice period. This rule is to ensure the notice period is of max one month and not a day beyond it. 

I know many companies have a 2 week policy and lots of companies in the west have this policy (including startups). But why do a lot of us have to suffer because of 2 and 3 month notice periods when most of the recruiters aren't willing to wait for so long? Also the irony, all these companies want immediate availability. It's high time we make this a law, Modi pls pass the bill for one nation one month notice period.

One nation one month notice period when?

Analyst

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Hi all,

How common is it to clear all interviews and still not get an offer?

The recruiter confirmed I've cleared all interviews & asked for salary expectations etc. As next steps I've to wait for the hiring team to decide based on pay among candidates. Ive never had someone ask me details like notice period, current compensation documents post clearing interviews & still be unsure of offer. 

Can hiring managers please throw some light on this?

Cleared interviews but unsure of offer

Consultant

I recently encountered a situation while job hunting in the engineering field. I applied for a role in a company where I had limited experience with their specific projects. When asked about my salary expectations, I mentioned ₹XX lakh, which seemed to surprise them.

They offered ₹10 lakh less than my expectation. I countered by suggesting ₹XX-5 lakh, with a provision to increase to ₹XX after a six-month probation, contingent on performance. They rescinded the offer without any explanation.

I'm not upset about it, as it might have been a mismatch. However, the lack of communication was puzzling. The offer was made on Thursday at 4:00 PM, with a deadline of 12 noon Tuesday after a long weekend.

For context, I was applying for an intermediate project engineer position. I have 5 years of experience, mainly in wood structures, while this role involved steel structures. The initial offer was ₹8.5 lakh.

Did I handle the negotiation poorly, or did I avoid a potential issue? Insights from others who've faced similar situations would be appreciated.

Job offer rescinded after salary negotiation

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Hi Folks
I recently got an offer and the notice period over there is 60 days. In my past companies it was 30 days everywhere. Just wanted to know your opinion.

Is the 60 days notice period too much?

Mine is 90  
 I feel like drowning in Harpic

Why do some companies expect immediate joiners when they have more than one month notice period.
Why do companies have long notice period?

Long Notice periods

Software Developer

Disclaimer: I respect both of them, svs & SG; dare I say I am a fan.

But being on the other side of recruiting with all the power and influence of the corporate hierarchy, they seem to be out of touch.

Current reality: Firms put candidates on hold for months. HRs hardly reply to follow-ups. Processes with assignments that is free Labour in disguise. Asymmetry in salary negotiation (Companies asking for salary slips without telling us their budget/range).

Candidates are already on uneven field. SG and svs suggesting us to play it with integrity is bordering on their hypocrisy. 

If you like a candidate and he has multiple offers, There's a reason he has multiple offers. Either Pay up or shut up!

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Investment Manager

So I interviewed with a company two months ago, after all the formalities were done, I received a response from the HR that I have cleared all the rounds. But the requirements for the position they were hiring me for suddenly changed and they asked me to wait for a while until a new position positions opens up matching my tech stack. At that time I was about to be released from a project in my current company so getting the notice period reduced to 2 months was not that much of a hassle. 
Today, the HR called me again telling me that a new position has been opened up and if I am available to join I can join. My official period is of 90 days and now I have been allocated to a new project in my current company.
I have been wanting to switch since so long because of variety of reasons. But the problem now is the notice period in my current company. The HR is very strict about joining within the 60 days but I am not getting any vibe that my current manager is going to reduce my notice period.

Please suggest if there are any ways out of it.

Thanks in advance!!

How to get the notice period reduced?

When looking for better opportunities post accepting an offer, is it good to tell recruiters that you are on a notice period when asked? 

Do recruiters consider good or bad? And how to reason why still looking for opportunities?

Is it good to tell recruiters that you are on a notice period?

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I'm have put in resignation, and requested 8 days less than notice period 
Now boss wants "copy of offer letter" as to why I want to leave early

Is it legal?
I don't want to share my offer letter 

What can be done

Urgent advice

I'm working as a BA in my current org. I'm on bench for more than 30 days and I have dropped my resignation but the HR is not approving my early release. I have an offer in hand and I need to join in another 15 days. In even agreed for notice period buyout but still that HR isn't allowing. 

It's really upsetting when we do not have any dependencies why do the HR ask to serve the complete notice period? Infact it is a loss for them to keep Billing me in bench.

Please advice what can be done here in my situation

Early release

Product Manager

I am a fresher, and my company has a 3 month notice period. I want to know do normally people have offers in hand before resigning or they find next stint in the notice period. I ask this because I don't imagine companies waiting 3 months for us to join. Do they?

How does job hunt work with long notice periods?

Data Analyst

I have given interviews and cleared them.
I got a call from HR asking for payslips and another offer details.

They said they will get back with offer.

How to go about here? If they come with a lower offer than what i asked, how much liberty i have to ask further.
Does HR will come with 2-3 various levels of offer and then try to negotiate with me.

Any help or insights would be helpful in how HR comes with offer details.
My interviews were pretty good and i think they like me.

How does salary negotiation before offer work

Don't share payslips yet if possible. Do it after finalising your offer details. 
  
 What information have you shared? Current compensation? Expected range? Do you have any other offers in hand? 
  
 The game that follows now is that of leverage of information vs offer expiry timelines. 
  
 They will share an offer. You can call it "interesting" but don't share more details on if you like it or not - you need to "think more" before you can share your opinion. Say that you need to discuss it with your well-wishers and also evaluate compared to other opportunities. 
  
 Get back to them on email and call the offer "strong" (if it is really good) or "interesting" (for all other cases). Suggest some improvements to the offer that would make it more compelling for you. Don't guarantee that you will accept the offer if these things are provided (unless it's your last day till offer expiry). Keep negotiating with everyone that is interesting and keep dropping the non-interesting ones. 
  
 Also, don't call the negotiation discussions a "negotiation" - that word sounds negative. Call it "discussing offer details" or something. 
  
 FYI: All of these tips are from the highly popular negotiation blog posts by Haseeb. They've worked well for me.

Hi Everyone,

Saying from personal experience, I have noticed that 10/10 times I am getting rejected if I say notice period to be 90 days during a Job Switch.
All companies are looking for 30/60 days joiners.
Even though they themselves have 90 days notice period in their organisation.
But let us say if you say to HR that my notice period is 60 days and then get selected, how to manage? How to securely transition from one organisation to another.
How to negotiate the notice period effectively?

Notice Period

I've been working as a React developer for almost 3 years (2 years, 9 months) plus had a 3-month internship. I'm looking to make a career move to a company that offers better mentorship and growth opportunities, but my current job requires a 3-month notice period before leaving. 

I'm struggling with a few aspects of navigating this job change given the long notice period:

1) Finding Companies Open to Waiting
How do I identify companies that would be willing to wait the full 3 months for me to start after giving notice? When and how should I bring up the notice period requirements during the application/interview process?

2) Getting Referrals
My professional network is somewhat limited. What are the best ways to try securing internal referrals to companies I'm interested in, which could help increase flexibility around waiting for my start date?

3) Preparing for Interviews  
Besides the standard technical preparation, what is the best way to practice for and respond to questions about my reasons for leaving my current role after such a long tenure? How can I reassure them I'm committed despite the extended notice period?

4) Evaluating Offers
If a company is unwilling to wait the full 3 months, is it worth trying to negotiate a shorter notice period or looking at temporary/contracting roles until I can start full-time? How do I evaluate whether the role is worth that hassle?

I want to be as prepared as possible for this transition, so any advice or suggestions from folks who have gone through a job change with a long notice period would be greatly appreciated! Let me know what you think or if you have any other tips.

How Can I Successfully Change Jobs With a 3-Month Notice Period?

I currently have a job where I can be laid off anytime. I started attending interviews with other companies. To my luck I got selected in a company, interviews were done and final documents were submitted. HR said only the offer discussion round is pending. He said it will be done on Thursday but no response. I followed up on Thursday. He said Friday for sure and no response on Friday too.

 What should I do now ?
 How often should I follow up?
Have you faced a similar situation how did you overcome

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