Product Manager

Agree - it bothers me particularly when people say how many resources do you have / need?

Growth manager

Fully agree . But that’s the reality also

Design Engineer

It is very insulting in my view. Thoughts?

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Why is terming human employees as “resources” by corporate honchos not the same as objectification of human beings?

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Why is terming human employees as “resources” by corporate honchos not the same as objectification of human beings?- Grapevine

Are employees humans or are they “resources”?

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Do you think HR roles have become a little toxic at the workplace in India. If you consider the HR policies and work culture abroad they are more employee centric. It's somewhere in the DNA of the HRs, I believe. Is the process of becoming an HR makes you like this or is it the work culture? I'm making this comment in general, some MNCs might be exceptions.

Why are HR not actually Human Resources in India?

Zonal Head

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Guys, one of my friend is going through interviews for a late stage ecom startup. and surprisingly the hiring manager who took the one of the rounds comes to him on a call post the last round. 

bit weird from my pov since he told HR was involved at every step for scheduling interviews but now for the negotiation part directly HM has called.

Any thoughts on this? acc to me this tells a lot about the culture of the company as HRs are given less importance, HM holds more power which they can abuse to their terms. what you all viners think about this?

Manager discussing the negotiations instead of HR

Program Manager

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An HR from Infosys just contacted me on WhatsApp and asked about my details I told them I am comfortable talking on a call rather because I will explain better about my past job profile and other details and that shameless person showed attitude and blocked me.

HRs are worse than human beings and shameless they think people are there to satisfy their ego

Software analyst

This dept is obsolete and not required the dept head should given responsibility to hire right person and other functional things they look into can be replaced with simple softwares like #kelaHr or #Zing  . some startUp have taken bold step to already take actions In fact this dept spreads negativity in form of office politics  of most Organisations.!!

Why can’t companies remove HR dept

Product Marketing Manager

Have seen many lazy ass HR's who don't even bother to listen employees problem why don't they support much?

Why are HR's so ignorant and bitchy

Analyst

Just wanted to know why and how come our companies have horrible WLB and cultures compared to western counterparts. Is it the fault of the employees for accepting whatever and acting like sheep or is it just the mindset of the senior management to treat their subordinates the same horrible way they were treated as some sort of sick rite of passage ?

Why do Indian Companies / Indian management have horrible work life balance and cultures compared to others  ?

Assistant Manager

Do you have the same opinion ? 

My take on this:

1) They are management mouthpiece, no opinion of their own and cannot help in case an employee arises a concern.
2) They don’t reply to email or teams chat unless I add their manager in cc.
3) They dont have any answers to our question and instead ask us to talk to our reporting manager.
4) Recruiters are not HR.

Do companies need HR?

Software architect

Tech spending has gone UP by a lot. These companies are playing on the USDINR arbitrage and still will choose to pay you peanuts so that they can enjoy insane profit margins in this business. You are literally being treated like a daily wage labourer here, the only difference is you are dressed up in formals. 

Let this be your call to start something new or switch jobs.

Why don't IT employees realize that they are being treated like corporate slaves?

Quoting from The Ken (which btw I would highly recommend).

How many of you think this is true for Bangalore and problems that we are facing now with this generation.

+++++++++++++

Between 2020 and 2022, investors pumped billions of dollars into startups whose founders and leaders offered up the mythical “hypergrowth” narrative. Those startups, in turn, pumped money to hire and grow a layer of mid-level and senior-level executives whose job was to deliver on that hypergrowth narrative.

And salaries went through the roof. Hikes of 50% and above were par for the course.

Cut to the present.

If overvalued startups are widely recognised as a problem, can overvalued employees escape the same fate?

A CEO of a prominent company estimates that “in product and tech, 20-30% are in this category”. 



- Extract taken from Ken

Unhireable category of employees, how true is this?

Now why everyone is talking about benefits of working from office?
I saw post from Sunil Shetty on linkedin.

My take is, when pandemic hit companies asked employees to WFH to keep wheel rolling.
Now we know WFH can give greater control over personal and professional life(at least for me) we don’t want to go back to office.

In my opinion corporate want us to work from office cause,

- they can control our time, 9hrs in ofc, you are getting paid for time not skills.
- they want to show who is the boss here.
- Learning is key reason for WFO, bullshit, we have a lot of learning portals and traffic time can be used to learn but it is never a intention.

What you guys think?

WFH vs WFO

Network administrator

Need answer to just one thing. 

Do you guys intentionally ghost candidates or do you guys intentionally ghost candidates? 🙂

Dear HRs - Answer Me.

Let me explain, managers or senior folks who reply/slack/email or do any form of communication outside working hours and especially over weekends… I hate it. If u do it without the counter party explicitly expressing such urgency then you are way worse. 

Just because their current lifestyle or situation allows them to do it… They do it without a second thought. They do not realize that this sets the benchmark or expectations for others who may not be able or like to do same. 

You might say they’re not coercing others to do it then what’s the harm? Well this little thing is what sets the chain reaction to unhealthy WLB. The stakeholders or their heads get the wrong impression and create unhealthy expectation from others. This is just a rant and if u are such a person… Stop doing it without thinking of its unintended consequences.

Hate can do attitude

HRs are good for nothing douchebags who think they are important

Frontend Engineer

I've had the fortune of having worked in 3 countries so far. India is by far the most exciting place to be in 2024.
But there's something about our work ethic that just concerns me. In both white and blue collar.

In most other countries, I've observed people strictly sticking to the 9 to 5, working diligently in those hours - not wasting too much time on chai sutta breaks, instagram browsing, gupshup etc.

They work for 8 hours, then leave. And think about work directly the next day.

In India, most of us spend more hours - but very obviously very few of those hours are productive. In fact, I lately feel that too many people around me are doing even 2-3 hours of work on a good day.

We end up just staying around, passing time, and then go back home. When we could have achieved so much more.

Work ethic has fallen. Work hours have gone up.

We need to be more mindful of our actions, we need to work well at work, and then do well at home.

I think it's a function of being over populated. There are 1.5-2 people doing what 1 person should be doing, hence this effect.

Needs to be fixed, it's the sign of a major problem in the workforce. Thoughts?

Disguised unemployment in India - It's all around us :/

Corporate Strategist

I want to vent out on Indians HRs and the policy makers. Anyone would like to add to this?

Why are HRs adamant on dragging the whole company down.
Everything could be so great and perfect but then comes the HR 🤦🏼‍♂️. They have enough excuses to be stupid and everyone follows because some day they woke up and changed the policies as per their wish.
I hate them all !

Rant on Indian HRs

Cybersecurity

So, my company just started publishing salary ranges for all positions internally. It's been... interesting, to say the least. 

Some people are thrilled about the transparency, while others are pretty upset about what they've learned. It's definitely changed the vibe around the office. Has anyone else experienced this kind of wage transparency? 

I'm really curious how it affects team dynamics and motivation in the long run.

How do you feel about a fully transparent salary system?

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Looking for genuine and non diplomatic answers since it will be anonymous. It is upto you to reveal the name of the company you resigned from.

Lets discuss!!! I will go first -

I quit my last organisation (a famous UPI company) in 2020 because, they still are in old technology. No cloud computing, no kubernates, no terraform. Their entire baremetal infra are in 2 DCs (Mumbai and Bangalore). Leadership ideas are outdated. I was very much bored and looking for a change.

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