Why special place for women in tech ?
This might be controversial but i want to know just why so many benefits for women in tech ? , I saw special hackathons only for women and also special trainings from big companies like Amazon only for women and of course diversity hiring. Is it because men can't work enough and women do more or what ?
Because men forgot that women can also work, and continued to hired only of their kind. Men also went above and beyond to keep women suppressed in all the ways possible.
It's not a special place for women. It's just making their entry to tech easier. Because, husbands are already making their wives life/work-life miserable, so are the fathers for their daughters. All these programs are to bridge the gap of having an near equal perspectives in everything - the gap which shouldn't have occurred in the first place.
But yes, there's a big hole in the approach. Those who're already getting equal and ample opportunities/would have succeeded by their own (from tier 1 or some tier 2 cities and colleges) are getting access to most of these program. They will be a part of multiple programs and prevents those who could have made use of it from making use of the opportunity. Most of the profiles that you see come under this category.
But there are organizations that specifically look beyond them, into the tier 3 colleges where students could be upskilled and hired. So is the case with return to work programs as well.
Most of the men see women as someone who's not capable of doing anything. If women, by any chance, gets to their level or goes above them, men can't stand that. Why go further, some men even ensures that women are not even getting to their level, and even if they reach, be under them itself rather than considering women equal.
With all these problems, women don't complain much as well. So yeah, whatever 'special' things are there, that just tried to help a bit. That's it.
If companies feel that they're not working properly, next steps will be taken accordingly. A business can be run by just women as well, like how men ran it all this time.
For every type of women (in tech), there will be an equivalent type of men as well.
So yeah, being men, if we're not helping them, at least don't complain.
BiryaniEnthu
Stealth
8 months ago
#ThalaForAReason šāāļø
As always... you are mixing equal opportunity with preferential treatment.
I'm sure none of us (ok fine most of us) are not against equal opportunity for women.
What I assume op and similar posts mention is that they don't support preferential treatment.
Because that paints all the empowerment stuff in a negative light.
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BiryaniEnthu
Stealth
8 months ago
You are a man, isnāt it? š
Diversity hiring is tax saving program in many countries, it also benefits the employer brand, helps them get those CSR awards.
This, infact is, top level disguised patriarchy.
Men can work enough, and so can women.
Melon
Student
8 months ago
I don't know about those CSR awards , thank you
Deadshot99
Stealth
8 months ago
In India they also started those awards like ābest women ratio in workplaceā, āgood place to work for women etcā. Companies comes to India, make division hiring compulsory (not compulsory in US office). Takes these awards and increase brand value.
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Women will claim to work as good as men... But not renounce one opportunity to take advantage like special benefits... Heads i win, tails you lose
Umadbro
Stealth
8 months ago
The left in 1977 told women to get any degree and they will be hired in that wave of inclusion while telling unis to admit more women. They skipped tech degrees and went for easy ones[1]. Tech made money, so left and women cried discrimination, (when ratio of stem in 11th is 4:1 and in hiring is 3:1), and pressured big companies to diversify. It became a pr strategy so they did it. Academics brought out false studies as to how it helps the world (when counter factual would never be published) and like everything it became a theatre too.
Next sector to be big would be the one where no is crying out for discrimination and/or inclusivity.
[1] being a nerd wasnāt cool. Look at proportion of women in stem in 1980 and 1990 compared to humanities. Now these ppl also argue for humanities roles in tech companies. Whether itās dei, ethics, or some newly invented fake job.
Melon
Student
8 months ago
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Melon
Student
8 months ago
I guess it's no longer those days where that Empowerment is needed
Brutallyhonest
Stealth
8 months ago
This is bill shit move. Diversity should not be meant for women, itās meant for handicapped and other challenged people. Itās pure women card play in companies like Target, Walmart, Lowes and other USA based businesses. Who knows nothing better.
D0nkey05
Stealth
8 months ago
I think it's downright bullshit for coming up with such 'one-size-fits-all.jpeg' answer to the problem of empowering women, why aren't we looking as empowering the un empowered regardless of who they are? . I genuinely think that these should be dealt with case on case basis. The thing you should be checking for is, was the candidate allowed the same chance as everyone.
First parameter should be money! I don't give a rats ass who you are, if you come from money you most likely had more opportunities than boys/girls who come from weaker financial backgrounds (not because parents prefered girls over boys or other way around, but because money didn't allow them to). The reason I say case by case is because there could always be some rich family that denied females in the family same opportunities as their male counterparts.
And to some degree physical handicap. Again case by case basis!
Melon
Student
8 months ago
Totally agreed š
Men and women are not same. Their perspectives are not same. To encourage diversity of perspectives, companies prefer having as much balance in gender as possible. Statistically there are more men in job market,
so companies initiate programs to specifically hire women. Diversity hiring is a simple solution to demand and supply.
Women centred training is provided to encourage women to move up the corporate ladder which is dominated by men.
FlimsySelf
Stealth
8 months ago
Historically when economy has been supportive, and 2 incomes have not been a requirement, between both genders women have stayed home.
Women have brought up daughters assuming they can choose to stay at home if needed. Staying at home even became a sign of privilege (we are so rich we donāt need two people to work).
This reflected directly on how we raised boys vs girls (and predominantly how we continue to bring them up). Men are pressurised more to work well, they are always taught that they either earn or they are useless, if no value to the society and specially of no value to any woman.
Women on the other hand were encouraged to stay home, be homely, learn things that are regularly needed around the house. Do well in school but 0 pressure afterwards.
Now, when you have a home maker mother, a husband and father who are proud to say they donāt need their daughters/wife to work, aunts who keep preaching the importance of being there for your child/husband all the time and how career can wait, - there are too many factors pulling women out of the workforce.
To balance it out, you need factors pulling women into the workforce. There are no push for men to get out of the workforce, so no pull required to balance this force.
Ultimately, if you know physics, the pull required to keep women at the same equilibrium men have at a workplace - we need to provide women with additional benefits and comforts.
tEchBro
Stealth
8 months ago
Because they know that if the hiring is going to be completely based on merit, atleast 95 of top 100 candidates will be men. But these companies need women so that they can build a good public representation in front of the public, investors etc. So, they need to do separate hiring for women so that they can get some hires.
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