SqueakyBagel
SqueakyBagel

How is the market currently for product managers?

I want to quit my job and take a break.

I Have been contemplating to do the same for almost an year but decided not to do it. So many things have happened since then

  1. Layoff wave started in india
  2. Got married
  3. Had to move back to bangalore from hometown

Reason I want to quit is I don't feel like working , feeling bored and work doesn't interest me that much.

I want to take a break chill for a bit but don't have guts to do the same considering market conditions ( what if I don't get a job when I am back in the market😅)

Please give any advice on how to tackle this situation or if someone has gone through the same, would love to hear your experience.

Also how is the product hiring currently in India?

PS: I do have a good runway for 4-5 months considering all expenses but I am scared to take the step

9mo ago
DancingQuokka
DancingQuokka

4-5 months runway isn’t at all enough.

DancingQuokka
DancingQuokka

I know people who have 2-3 year runway but are still scared to leave their jobs they don’t like.

FloatingWaffle
FloatingWaffle

I think you are scaring the post author a lot. I believe 6- 8 months would be sufficient

FuzzyBoba
FuzzyBoba

Hey, my 2 rupees:

  1. If you are quitting, quit for the right reasons. Ask yourself if you feel you are running away from work? And if so why?
  2. It's important to know what you are running towards too. Have a plan! If you want to quit, what are you going to do with your time?

There is no right reason to quit, nor is there is a wrong motivating to want something. But it's imp to know why you feel so because then you can work on that aspect of yourself.

I do agree with the comments that 4 -5 months buffer is short - it takes about 4 -12 months to convert a job (unless you are not very picky).

Taking a break is a luxury - use it wisely :)

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

Great comment

PrancingBurrito
PrancingBurrito

Nicely elaborated, @Manic. I was in the boat of wanting to run away. Still sometimes feel that way but figured that it was only because of some drastic changes at work due to a new boss who has zero prioritization, says yes to everything the management says and wants the output from the team yesterday. I know I have to quit the boss, so will see if I can do that internally else have already started looking out. Quickly realized that the market is brutal right now - ghost postings, no calls even with solid referrals, and lack of roles that I’m interested in and have skills for.

I was planning to quit and chill for a few months with a 3 yr runway including emergency. Glad I didn’t coz it would have gotten frustrating very quickly for me.

@sturdysail30 However, if you actually just want to quit to focus on things in life like health, family, passions, interests etc, that’s totally fair but you will need a lot more than 4-5 months. Else you will have to keep applying from now to land something by the time your break is over and stressing over getting a job during a break will not be fun.

Suggestions -

  1. Reduce expenses so that runway can be used for more number of months. Consider moving back home if that can help burn less cash.
  2. See if there is an option for sabbatical via your company- not all companies give that option.
  3. While you’re on a break, see if there’s any income you can make from a different source or job without putting in the same kind of hours as you do at your current work so that it still feels like a break.
GoofyWalrus
GoofyWalrus

Not to scare you but it's fucked up. One of my friends is applying via referrals but rarely any calls

SqueakyBagel
SqueakyBagel

I have had the same experience

SillyCoconut
SillyCoconut
Apna9mo

What’s your YoE? Anything above director of products -> market is bad. Stay put. Jr roles there is still some

TLDr - Better to stay than be in this market. However bad org or team or your motivation ia

SqueakyBagel
SqueakyBagel

I have ti have total 5 yrs of exp, with 3 in product and 2 in BA. I would be targeting PM2 sort of roles if I decide to start applying

SillyCoconut
SillyCoconut
Apna9mo

There are such openings but you can’t be super choosy. Best is to apply while on the job and not take a break. Gives you more freedom and mind space to choose the right next role vs doing under pressure of hunting with no job in hand

ZestyQuokka
ZestyQuokka

4-5 months runway is less. Keep a separate emergency fund and atleast a year of runway

JumpyPancake
JumpyPancake

I’ve done this, don’t recommend it unless you are a person with high discipline and will power.
I thought I’ll take a break for 3 months, then it became 6, then it became a whole year. When I started doing interviews, I got low-balled offers as I didn’t have a job in hand.
And in the current economic scenario it’ll be very difficult to get back in once you get out. 4-5 months runway is too less, need at least 2 years.

If you’re feeling burnt out, just work less. Fix a time for yourself like you’ll only work 4-5 hours then check out. Pretend to work if office expects you to work more hours. Find a corner in office and read books/do interview-prep.

FluffyKoala
FluffyKoala

Take sabbatical if the company can allow.

WigglyBagel
WigglyBagel

This!!! This is the safest bet right now

GigglyWalrus
GigglyWalrus

Don’t listen to any of the comments here. If you don’t feel like working, just quit brother.Even I am planning to do the same. Staying away from corporate job for time being is all I need. I cannot sacrifice my mental peace for a freaking monthly paycheck. This is a vicious endless cycle. But you gotta think - if money is your main goal, quitting might not be the best option for you

JazzyWalrus
JazzyWalrus

His runway is around 4-5 months. One month after quitting, panic would kick in and he would spiral into heavy regret.

QuirkyPotato
QuirkyPotato

Most ppl here have commented on having an year of runway. I think that’s solid advice. Times are unpredictable. build up that runway so that you don’t stress out in your break.

Market is not good if you are a generalist. But if you are a specialist ( niche skill set / domain or subject matter expertise) you will be okay

JumpyPotato
JumpyPotato

You are a head of product...give some advise to us fellow product guys, on how can product people become specialists...some particular product domains you can name?

QuirkyPotato
QuirkyPotato

To become specialists, you gotta identify a domain and stick to it for a longer duration, thereby giving yourselves the chance to explore and solve different types of problems and gain understanding of users in that domain. It requires you to commit to a domain for 5+ years.
It’s okay to be a generalist very early in your career. But the earlier you identify your preferred domain, the better. Examples would be gaming, payments, security/fraud/risk , telecom, e-commerce etc.

When markets are good, people are able to seamlessly jump between domains and you see a lot of hiring. But when the chips are down like the past couple of years, recruiters double down on specialists.

MagicalBiscuit
MagicalBiscuit

I was laid off 4 months ago. I haven't found a single job that's worth taking. I'm giving interviews but the interview process is fucked now. You'd need a runway of 8 months to 1 year if you want to work after quitting again. Taking a break right now is a bad decision.

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