SnoozyWalrus
SnoozyWalrus

List of Companies to avoid - short reasons welcome

Hi Grapeviners, creating a thread where you can post the name of a toxic culture company along with which department.

This thread is created as a one stop place to know about Toxic Culture Companies whether it, Early/Seed/Growth Stage/MNC .

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20mo ago
GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut

Putting this again

Most YC funded startups Most *.ai All โ€œEd-techsโ€ (aka โ€œSalMaโ€ sales and marketing) Uber-for-X 10min-thingmajings Niche funded D2Cs BNPLs

DizzyMarshmallow
DizzyMarshmallow

EdTech I understand. Why are Sales & Marketing companies bad?

GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut

Edtech are the sales and marketing companies in this case

MagicalQuokka
MagicalQuokka

Avoid all AI companies if you want to stay relevant as employees (and humans) 10 years down the line.

Otherwise, embrace the dark side and contribute to our downfall as a civilisation.

SqueakyKoala
SqueakyKoala

100% disagree with your statement. While it is understandable to have concerns regarding the impact of AI on job roles and society as a whole, it is important to note that AI has the potential to bring significant benefits to our daily lives.

Through the development of AI, we are able to create technologies that can enhance our decision-making, improve healthcare systems, optimize transportation, and even help solve problems related to climate change. The opportunities for growth and innovation in the field of AI are vast, and businesses and employees that embrace this technology are likely to remain relevant and competitive in the future.

Moreover, as with any emerging technology, it is important to develop and deploy AI in a responsible and ethical manner. This includes considerations regarding the potential social and economic impacts of AI, and ensuring that the technology is used for the greater good of society. By working together to develop AI responsibly, we can build a brighter, more prosperous future for all.

BubblyDonut
BubblyDonut

If I could reply with a GIF, I would use the โ€œArnab Goswami - KUCH BHI!โ€ template for this.

BouncyNugget
BouncyNugget

Indian work culture ruins every organisation. The same company can be a good workplace in the US because the people are better. When it's in India, things change drastically.

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Our work culture is all about showing efforts. This is think is the reason for the crab mentality.

SquishyLlama
SquishyLlama

EasyEcom - shitty work life balance Rippiling - fucked up work life balance, India team doesn't have any say on anything. OnePlus - Chinese buggers control everything. No WLB.

GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut

Rippling: get paid for 2 jobs, now do 3 jobs!

ZoomyMochi
ZoomyMochi

Lets start with PayTM

WobblyBanana
WobblyBanana

Why?

PeppySushi
PeppySushi
PayTM20mo

Paytm Money to be specific

WobblyNoodle
WobblyNoodle
InMobi20mo

Amazon - Toxic culture/PIP/URA Ola - Absolutely poor wlb, bad culture

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo20mo

Doesnโ€™t Uber have PIP as well? Is it better than Amazon or others

WobblyNoodle
WobblyNoodle
InMobi20mo

There's no official pip % in uber like Amazon. Yes, there are perf related firing(every company does that) but it's no where near 10% pip and 6% ura of Amazon.

Culture and wlb are okayish.

CosmicPretzel
CosmicPretzel

OTP-less Toxic Culture Clue-less Leadership Absolutely no governance
Senior Management confused

ZoomyMuffin
ZoomyMuffin

wtf is it? i thought they were doing great in terms of onboarding new users

CosmicPretzel
CosmicPretzel

Have fired 10+ Sales people (6 didnโ€™t even work for 10 days) Fired 3 Founders Office hires including 1 who was poached from EY.
All retained employees are ex-BharatPe hence a bro culture who have been promised insane ESOPs.
Earlier the team was meant to be remote but now calling each employees to Surat with immediate effect (commanded by Bhavik) with no preparedness- no relocation expenses to be paid to the employees
No communication within the senior management as each one has a personal relationship with CEO and the founders

SquishyBoba
SquishyBoba

ITC, unless you want to work in a bureaucratic dinosaur era work environment

WigglyPretzel
WigglyPretzel

But how is ITC growing though?

Asking because I have heard similar comments from a lot of people.

SquishyBoba
SquishyBoba

Brother the Cigarette business is the Cash Cow, earning insane cash and funding all other businesses. And the other products on the FMCG side are also good products per se, even though not market leaders. So, this good product mix greatly negates the toxic work culture.

I am immensely confident of the business and have been accumulating ITC shares from the last 8 years back when I started working there and even after I left after working for 3 years.

But from an employee perspective, not a good place to join imo

ZestyKoala
ZestyKoala

Klub

CosmicPanda
CosmicPanda

What's wrong with Klub, i got asked to interview a bunch of times.

ZoomyMuffin
ZoomyMuffin

tell us more

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Avoid companies that are in 3rd to 5th position within the category of business. The ranking could be within a sector or team within the company. Toxic cultures starts when the new head is hired to improve the business. Managers reporting to him will bend over back and do stupid things to impress him/her. Tisbthe starting point of toxic culture.

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Avoid these -

  1. If it is a startup and no operational profit till 3rd round of funding...

  2. any company that is not profitable (ebita or other).. within 3years of starting business...
    Join these startups for the money. But a have a mental exit date (1 year or 2 year etc.. imagine like engg. A professor you may not like but will have to sit thru the semester.)

But If the Bosses talk a lot of story (like how they are creating revolutionary model et.. ) but no sign of a profitable business... run... dont look back.. just run...

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Bangalore
by WobblyBiscuitProduct Manager

Name some toxic (other than your own) companies

Need a list of companies to definitely avoid (I am new) in bangalore

The goal is to preserve the hairline and get at least enough time during the weekdays to maintain a fitness routine, and get majorly free time over weekends

Indian Startups
by FloatingBagelProduct Manager

Non toxic startups in India?

After going through so many posts on grapevine..I feel like all the startups in India are toxic only ๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿ˜•

Really want to know which are the startups worthy of joining? Preferably in product roles

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user

Bold of you to keep "non-toxic" and "startup" in the same sentence. ๐Ÿ’€

Misc
Misc11mo
by PerkyQuokkaPWC

List of toxic companies

Toxic company - A place which degrades you,and you want to beat your manager everytime you see or hear his/her voice.

This is a temp definition and varies with time , person and company for some its their coworkers for some its m...