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Pros/Cons of Frequent Job Switching

I wish to know the pros/cons of frequently switching jobs. I am in a dilemma, there are posts here and there that say don't switch frequently and then there are posts that nobody cares about frequent job switches, as you are a dev.

Let's discuss ladies & gents✍️

18mo ago
MagicalHamster
MagicalHamster
PayTM18mo

Imagine you are the Hiring manager looking for a Tech Lead who is having 8-10 years of experience.

He/She has already switched 6-7 companies in the period of 9 years. Will you consider that person working for you?

I personally won’t.

GroovyKoala
GroovyKoala
Eviden18mo

This has happened in front of me, I mean LITERALLY. My manager and lead were sitting right next to me shortlisting CVs to fill in another lead position and one candidate had switched somewhere around 4 companies in the last 5 years. Instantly rejected.

SparklyPanda
SparklyPanda

Is there a way like, what if the person just skips 1-2 companies and adds their years in another company. This will reduce the number of switches right.

GoofyHamster
GoofyHamster
InMobi18mo

Best to do at least 2 years in a company before switching. That's considered normal in early days of your career. Anything less than that is a red flag

CosmicPotato
CosmicPotato

Even in early careers as well? As pay is lower in the early years, can't we switch for better fast?

GoofyHamster
GoofyHamster
InMobi18mo

Too many switches early on is a red flag. If 2 years is too much to stay in one place then there are some issues with the candidate for sure (called a flight risk).

Have personally rejected multiple cvs due to switches every 9-15 months

SnoozyKoala
SnoozyKoala

This is more for people who are looking for VP/ CEO or leadership positions in any company, switching frequently loses the network which you have built in the country over long term and the sponsorships from leaders for growth. Career is all about understanding the power centers on the company and understanding and navigating them to reach top and that is very difficult if you switch companies frequently

SnoozyKoala
SnoozyKoala
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SqueakyQuokka
SqueakyQuokka

This is gold. Needs to be a LinkedIn post 😅

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

Depends very much on how frequent it is For me the average duration has been 1.5 years - and it’s worked out really well

It helped figure out what I like or don’t like in my early career: large company vs small company, early stage vs growth stage, growth vs sales roles

And my increments with each change was quite high

That said, I’m not too sure if the increments would continue in the current market. I would switch if my work and work culture sucks, or if there’s an opportunity I can’t stop thinking about.

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

Well, I think <1 year is certainly problematic, because everyone knows that it takes a few months to really learn about how the company works. If someone is leaving within 10 months from joining, then they already started looking 7 months from joining. Reasons to do can be many: getting more money, not adapting to the people or culture, not mature enough to tolerate some of the bullshit that will happen at all workplaces, thereby feeling the need for a change. Some wants change just for the sake of change.

However, there are those people who'd like to see a project through - it is these people who have real good stories to share. They take pride in creating an impact and it takes a bit of time to do that. We respect such people. However, we are all doing this for money and no company will correct your salary to the extent an external offer would. Staying for too long doesn't make sense these days. People who stick for too long at companies significantly underearn than those who switch more.

I believe 1.5 years is the sweet spot here. I have respect those who switch around 1.5-2 years. I tend to think those who stay for longer than 2 years are those (1) who lack agency in life to look for jobs even when they know they should quit and switch (2) they really don't understand how this game works.

You'll see some posts here saying they'd not consider candidates who switch too soon - pure, sizzling crap. It's some psyops by HRs to make people stay longer at shitty companies that underpays. Non-HR folks who are advocating this: there is more ideology or projecting their own inadequacy to get lot of jobs easily onto a career prescription. Companies hire candidates who switch frequently too all the time. It won't make you unhireable because the ocean is pretty big, plenty of fishes.

There's no reason to stay at companies that suck for even a month more than necessary. You could suck balls as a candidate even if you have stayed at companies for 3+ years. (..contd.)

GigglyLlama
GigglyLlama

You could be a fantastic candidate, who knows their worth, who won't brook bullshit.

As long as the recruiter finds you a competent and decent (read, don't have obvious attitude issues), they're likely to conclude that probably it's not the candidate that's the problem, it was the company.

Everyone understands these days that shitty companies exists, shitty bosses exists. They're everywhere, it's the good companies and good bosses that are rare. They'd especially understand why you left too soon, if you did. You can always gracefully say the culture couldn't sit well with them and I believe in taking quick measures to correct things.

However, as you cross 30, start entering upper middle management - your game changes a bit. Relationships start to matter, politics start to matter, culture starts to matter a lot more. You'd already start earning well that you no longer switch for a for some easy short term hike. You'd like some peace of mind, some stability, work at a company that has a decent culture (read, will reward you fairly for good work and won't give you inhuman pressure). When you find a such a company, you tend to stick around for 3-4 years, or even more.

I'm 31, so can't really comment about how it is for the late 30s or 40s folks out there. Would love to learn about their perspective.

SnoozyBanana
SnoozyBanana

Switched 5 companies in 7 years. First company 3 years, 2nd 4 months, 3rd 1 year, 4th 7 months, 5th 2+ years. From 3.5L to 60LPA. I don’t think I would have made it if chosen to stick to 1 company for at least 2 years. I could be lucky or may be right time at right place but this worked for me. And YES my CV get shortlisted.

Pro:
no nonsense politics No need to unnecessarily flattering manager and laugh on manager PJ Took marriage+honeymoon leave in almost every company except first one. :) Can think about FIRE Did multiple freelancing
I decided to stay in current company as it’s in-line with my interest.

Cons: You won’t be get shortlisted in MNCs may be but startup zindabad. Given that I took marriage leave, GF nhi bani

I keep giving interviews in every 3 weeks/months always. First employer underpaid me. 3.5L to 5L in first three years. You learn in first 2-3 years and then earn. Pretty simple, don’t underestimate yourself. This is not favorable time to switch so could look bad on CV but this is prep time. Phir time aayega

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DizzyPretzel
DizzyPretzel

This is applicable in SDE only or such cases happen in other domains too?

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

Doesn't matter if you're a dev or not. I've made frequent switches and it made life difficult, even though they were all mostly shitty companies and I even skipped adding/deleted many of them in my resume and LinkedIn.

Makes you look flaky and unreliable.

SnoozyDonut
SnoozyDonut

Hiding companies you've worked in, in your CV is not an issue during BGV?

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

Unless there's ppf and stuff carrying over, not really. That too they'll mostly just look at last org, not the previous ones.

ZestyWaffle
ZestyWaffle

There is no right or wrong. It's all about the context. My spouse is a serial job switcher, she has done it because of issues with roles, bosses, some personal circumstances. It has not impacted her prospects and in fact she has done well both from a career and monetary point of view. This is in the HR domain.

In my case I have worked in only 3 companies in my 14+ years of career. I know colleagues and friends who have switched 5-7 companies in the same period. More have done well than bad.

If you are in a hot area like Digital Marketing/Full Stack Development/Product Management etc.. Your job hopping will be tolerated while being short listed and considered. It's a matter of demand and supply. Not so much in other areas.

In good times it doesn't matter but when the tough times come around, like now, a job hopper is less likely to be considered or shortlisted. You will definitely make more money but will you build a career?

GroovyCupcake
GroovyCupcake

💀 My friend joined Atlassian after switching 4 companies in 4 years. It all depends on HR's mood. Keep your standard flag practice in the bin 🥳

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FuzzyQuokka
FuzzyQuokka
Google18mo

I think the market will correct that automatically. Assuming that someone who switches frequently is not preferred/hired by the companies then in that case their tenure at their last company will anyway go up. So, as a candidate, I should always look for better professional opportunities in or out of your current company. If the market accepts you then you will get it if not then the tenure will average out.

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