Ken creates hype to sell subscription....bs 
  
 5y atleast, data science will exist

Cost arbitrage is what employs Indian techies...

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Came across this article. Please share if someone has access  https://theken.com/story/datascientistisdeadlonglivedatasciencehowindiaslargestanalyticscompaniesarecopingwithgenai/

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Came across this article. Please share if someone has access

https://the-ken.com/story/data-scientist-is-dead-long-live-data-science-how-indias-largest-analytics-companies-are-coping-with-genai/

Analytics firms facing major headwinds

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Analytics firms facing major headwinds- Grapevine

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Nithin Kamath undermining Data Analytics 🥺. 
https://twitter.com/Nithin0dha/status/1623575805719719936?t=Wm-TCKdo0DR7h-9hzV6bDQ&s=19 

Also read this, 
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34694926

As someone from this domain (Not a DA or DS) I kind of agree to what's being discussed here. Please read the links and let me know what do you guys think.

Big data is dead?

Data engineer

Analytics a dead career?

Business Analyst

Been seeing a lot of articles by the publication praising google's gen AI model - Gemini and the strategy around it. Articles heavily implying doom is just around the corner for Open AI because Gemini is going to kill it.

I firmly think Open AI currently has a huge headstart, and is the model of choice for devs as well as general folks and google (where i also work) has a lot (A LOT!) of catching up to do. Does anyone get the same sense from their articles?

What is the deal with Analytics India Mag

Investor

How’s the market for Data scientists job in India?

One of my friend got laid off and he started searching for all kinds of job.  
Even in such a rescission drowned market jobs for software developers is not less. But on contrast the data engineering market is just doomed and every 10 Dev job there is 1 data job. 



Thoughts ?????

Data Enginner’s downfall ??

Software Engineer

I've seen a glaring issue with DS in India: desis don't genuinely want real insights. The boss only want insights that agree with his gut feeling. I always thought that we had to uncover truths.

The moment your analysis contradicts the boss's intuition, your work is dismissed. It’s disappointing as fuck. Unless your product is uniquely DS/ML/AI-led, you are mostly a yes-man, bending data to fit a narrative that keeps the management comfortable. The truth? They don't want innovation or disruption; they want affirmation of their outdated ideas.

This attitude fucks up creativity and growth. How can I progress when data is manipulated to pacify your ego. The truth is that ego leads to poor decision-making and business failures.

The problem with Data Science in India 🇮🇳

Analyst

I just went to LinkedIn and looked for Data Analyst and Data engineer roles, browsed some job posts in Bengaluru and some others. There are very few roles available and a lot of applicants for each job, forget entry level, there's very few posts for specific roles.

Same case with Indeed and others as well. I don't know when the situation will improve for this field

How bad is the Job market for Data Science roles?

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I spoke to an experienced guy in the IT sector who has worked in many FinTech firms and consulting companies. He said when the data science hype started several years back, companies started getting funds from venture capitalists to set up data science wings . Companies went on a hiring spree with this money to hire data science professionals.

However, as the years passed, these data science departments failed to generate revenue as expected. Also, some aspects of data science will very likely be automated. So companies will probably hire less data science professionals and may even fire the resources hired earlier.

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/zzji46/is_data_science_a_bubble_about_to_burst

Data Science Bubble is about to Burst...

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Which role is likely to have a better future in terms of career growth? A data modeler or a data engineer?

I have 7.5 years of experience with around 6 years of experience in data analytics/engineering and last 1.5 years as a data modeler.

I have given interviews for both these rules in the last month and have got offers from mostly service based companies. But I am not sure whether to continue in this role or go for a masters in data science with a DE background. Please share your viewpoints

Career advice

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I work on head of razor-pay analytics  and currently I feel the work quality is very bad only product good analytics dashboard and few projects on a smoky detection and rest is crap bau work . I have worked in Swiggy before and very few ground breaking Ai work . I have decided to quit Indian startup  and start my own . Tc 1.5 cr exp 15 years . Nobody can give me good work

Very bad analytics work in razor pay

Heard from people I know at Bain that they are laying off.
This is mostly the first time an MBB is doing layoffs (earlier they would silently fire, or delay onboarding) 

A friend got impacted. Seems like this could be 10-15% of their consultants. Unprecedented.

Layoffs at Bain India. At least 100+ people will be affected

When I think I should leave my job and start searching, Grapevine pops one of these scary items 😭

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I feel data science and analytics has glass ceiling in tech , maximum people can go is head of data and analytics and salary is max 1.5 cr for Indian startup and people will be laid with more experience for analytics .  I feel to have stable career in tech cto and engineering has better long term career as salary can be as high as 2.5 to 3 cr , more job opportunities and more market demand . Data science and analytics is a dead career even world is jumping for llm.

Long term career in tech

How's the analytics culture and demand in Dubai and how good is it compared to India wrt to salary and work life balance ?

Analytics in Dubai vs India

I was working  as head of data and analytics in  Zepto , Swiggy , flipkart now is razorpay. 
I felt work is of very poorly quality in most Indian startup , no idea of kpi, useless machine learning model , no investment in infrastructure. I think no point in joining any Indian startup as very few founder value data 
Now I have worked in Walmart and Citibank , core strategic decisions  happens in USA and headquarters so Indian office is only pleasing the hq with support work 
Now analytics service like tiger fractal again work is to do sales bring any work and add to top line 
Witch company even more shit show 
So I am delusional and thinking of quitting the data and analytics  field or build something of my own 
Data and Ai in India is just to show off and get investor money and load the pnl without return

Where to go to get good work in Ai and ml

Could somebody throw some light on Department wise breakup of tech layoffs ? 

Someone working in swiggy would broadly know the numbers but nobody has shared.

As in tech i believe there could be departments or BU as Data Science, Product, Analytics or add i missed anything here.

This would be of great help navigating the current market scenario as we have SDEs have been hit specifically across the org, even geographies. But we don't have much info on DS, Analytics, product folks

Swiggy layoffs details

Program Manager

Just curious about what others think here.

From someone I met yesterday, they concluded that it might not be dying but it has gotten extremely competitive at entry levels. It might be dying for the extreme noobs probably because these noobs can find better jobs (money/effort) in Product Management or Founder's Office yada yada.

Personally, it’s highly competitive now. I mean it was always easy to get in with a masters degree. Now it is hard to get in even with a PhD.

True, people get hired without masters degrees but only a small fraction of them are doing really great work. Your skills to progress matter more than a piece of paper here.

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