I had this doubt, let’s say team wants to go above and beyond work hours weekends to get shit done when it’s honestly not even required.  I do whatever is given within work hours and deliver! Thing...

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I had this doubt, let’s say team wants to go above and beyond work hours weekends to get shit done when it’s honestly not even required.

I do whatever is given within work hours and deliver! Things might take longer since I don’t slog my ass off. My concern is they might say I’m underperforming and who knows, might even fire me! Typical Indian company mentality.

How do you handle this situation without getting targeted ? So far I document everything that I’ve done and make sure there isn’t any place they can point fingers at! Looking for some pointers.

Handling not wanting to over work

Software Developer

Handling not wanting to over work- Grapevine

It's been a year I'm working with one company that has good name. But everymonth I have 40% of the time where I work more than 11+hrs (with food and all activities I work 16 hrs sometimes)

How do You guys balance this?

I tried balancing this but my manager and lead are telling that I'm not taking taking ownership these days. Earlier when I used to work more I delivered on time and took lot of ownership. But when I work less and do just my work or logout after 10 hrs it's affecting this.

Happened with anyone?

Working hours at MNC (Fortune 500) MAANG

Data engineer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

So, my boss is an absolutely lovely person, and is the best boss I've had so far. Not to brag, but I'm also the best performer in my team, by a mile. So, while I do get my pats on the back, I'm also rewarded with more and more work. I love, atleast so far, what I do, so I didn't mind taking up more work, because I learnt a lot in the process too, and it helped my hone my craft better.

Cut to now, I'm losing interest in work. Don't feel like taking up any new work, no matter how exciting the brief, or how great its potential.

I feel like I'm burnt out. And majorly demotivated.

What makes it worse is seeing this other member in my team chill the absolute fk out. He's hardly even given any important projects because of what a waste resource he is.

I've also just been promoted. So, I'm not sure if I should share what's on my mind with my boss.

My mind says I shouldn't, but my heart says it should be fine.

What should I do about:
1. Telling or not telling my boss what I'm going through (because I'm scared if it'll come back to bite my later)
2. Me feeling extremely burnt out and demotivated.

Drop in a joke or two, if you want, but please drop in a serious and genuine reply too.

Should I tell me boss I'm burnt out?

No, please dont in my opinion. Are you not taking leave’s? Please take leaves. 
  
 It might be contradictory on what i said but when it comes to bosses, it better not to talk about burning out and demotivated etc. 
  
 If you still want to do, sound as positive as you can be.  
 Boss sab ka bharosa nahi yaar.

Software Engineer

Marketing Creative

They have no life
They have nowhere to go
They have no one to be with
They have no passions outside work either

And they make your life hell as they become the baseline for comparison for all sorts of management from appraisal to work distribution.

Feel free to disagree with me, but I’m genuinely pissed today. How do you deal with them? I have a decent life outside work but lose most of it while trying to catchup to such people so that I don’t get fired.

Sorry for the title.

How the F do I deal with overworkers?

I'm also like this brother. But why I work like this? 
 I come from a small village in India . Haven't got proper education or exposure. Not born with silver spoon and this is the only way to feed our family. We too have emotions like you, but sacrificing everything for our future and family. I strongly disagree with @Elon_Musk. Usually, only people who don't work hard do like that.

Product Designer

So thing is  In last 1 week my manager/project lead has been threating that you will have to work on weekend if you dont complete your task by friday and put the the task to testing.

And this boils my blood soo damnn much . But as a person who is on lowest level i cant do/say shit. I just disagree with him and dont argue.
What would you have done .[ practical advice only]

And thing is i do all my dev work on time even earlier almost everytime and he just goes around and threatens everyone with this. Soo annoying thay dumbfk needs to get rekt .

Work on weekend?!! Advice needed

Hi everyone , as the title mentioned i am getting tired with this corp culture. My managers are giving bullshit timelines for tasks and expects me to finish it. 
Now i know u guys gonna give me advice to switch on mncs but my friends at mnc are also saying same things. I am just really getting fed up . Its just been 2yrs for me. Expect salary i could never find anything good in it but i really dont see a long term career in this .

Tired with corporate culutre

My new manager at a new company works on weekends too. Comments in documents, sends mails and a bunch of other stuff. Sends mail at fucking 4 & 5 in the morning.

I feel pressured to work on weekends too because he is working. I'm already clocking 10 hour work days. How to deal with this situation?

About me - PM at startup.

Manager works on weekends

Stop it at the start. Don't put yourself out there, so they start considering your extra effort as normal or default.  
  
 Shut the laptop on Friday and open it only on Monday. Don't follow up on weekends which might become a habit and they expect you to respond on weekends. 
  
 Until they don't ask you, you don't respond. Also there could be multiple reasons why they prefer to work during certain times. 
  
 Once you break the boundary you have, there's no way getting it back again.

Product Manager

What are some of the questions related to labour law in India that you always wanted to know (probably something that your HR may not explicitly tell you) - Ask here!

Labour Laws that you always wanted to know

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Context: I work at a startup, it's a pretty chill work environment, very flexible, hybrid model. Everything is great.

Problem: They take flexible work hours too seriously, I have meetings at 10 PM on weekdays and almost every weekend there's some work which they need the next day in most cases but apparently have to keep the meeting on the weekend with no prior notice.

I mean, i like going to office twice a week around 11-12 and coming back around 7, wfh when I have a few meetings that day but is it normal to work on weekends? and after work hours?

P.S. I've only been in this company for a month and joined as a fresher.

Now that I've put it down, this is such a gen z problem lol

But what should I do?

working post work hours and on weekends?

Welcome to Business Roles's Private Community

Manager seems to give more work when I complete the assigned task in a short period. Should I do work at the pace of others in the team who work at normal pace or continue with the very fast pace. How to escape this deadlock.

Btw, I try to be fast paced in my work to maintain WLB and have some me time. 


Advise/Opinions please.

Workplace issue !!!

Welcome to Confessions's Private Community

In my corporate experience, I have observed two kinds of leaders - 1) A hard task master, very high on IQ but more often than not low on EQ and 2) High on EQ, above avg on IQ. I as a manager/ leader fall under 2) and usually get work done without authority but I do experience at times, some peers and reportees taking advantage of my behaviour

 In my view, anecdotally I see type 1) leaders succeed more in corporates even if it comes at the cost of facing flak/hate from directs/indirects. One of my previous managers was unpopular for his toxicity but somehow I kind of built a decent bond with him. Once over drinks and dinner, he candidly told me, I'm not here in this organization for making friends and I'm here only to get results and he did deliver on results every year.

My question is, can type 2 leaders even climb up the ladder specially where cut throat competition exists. Sometimes I do feel I need to be more like type 1 leaders obviously not at the cost of toxicity - disrespect, shouting etc. 

What are your thoughts?

Task Master vs Empathetic leader

Program Manager

Right time to Switch

SAP Consultant

Hey guys,

I'm on notice period and I left my job because of the bad conditions and unhelpful team and messed up mental health. I have 2 months notice which started 3rd july

I wanted to know can the company do anything if my performance in notice period is bad. Basically if I get the work, I'll try to deliver but 8 won't be messing up my mental health if I'm not able to deliver.

I plan to simply say that, sorry i tried but I'm not able to figure it out. If someone helps me its fine and if not then I'll continue to say it.

Can the company do anything if I keep a good behaviour and not deliver tasks.

Performance in notice period

Is working on your own startup while in MNC a moonlight case, will it lead to serious blow from your company. Wanted to know the opinion what happens when your manager finds out that you also run a startup.

What are the possibile things you can do to avoid this  ? Any recommendations by anyone . Or any things to be aware of ?

Side Hustle

Founder

I joined Synkrama Technologies Private Limited  with enthusiasm, inspired by a positive and supportive environment. Initially, the atmosphere seemed promising, and I was motivated to contribute to the team. However, as time went on, I faced numerous challenges that profoundly impacted my professional and personal well-being.

Early in my tenure, I was appointed as a Team Lead on several projects. This role, though a significant opportunity, came with immense pressure from our CEO, KJ. The expectation was to meet deadlines at any cost, which led to continuous mental stress. Under his directives, I inadvertently became a source of pressure for my colleagues , AN , and AB and other major colleagues . This created a strained and uncomfortable working environment for all of us as i used to put pressure on them on the influence of Karan Jain 

The situation worsened as I found myself working through weekends and even during leaves, resulting in severe mental exhaustion. Despite these efforts, new developers were hired, and I was sidelined. This period was particularly tough, leading to depression and sleepless nights. After enduring this for several months, I decided to resign from my position.

Unexpectedly, KJ contacted me, urging me to withdraw my resignation. He assured me that the previous issues would be resolved and praised my contributions. Reluctantly, I decided to stay, hoping for a positive change.

However, the company's environment continued to pose challenges. We were subjected to screen monitoring via Team Logger, where management frequently questioned my idle time. Despite my high productivity and efficiency, I was often scrutinized for taking breaks or assisting colleagues, which is essential for maintaining a collaborative workspace.

Most recently, a significant and distressing event occurred, further affirming my decision to share my experience publicly. it’s crucial to address and bring awareness to the toxic practices that can affect employees’ mental health and overall well-being.

I hope my story encourages organizations to foster genuinely supportive environments and prioritize the mental health of their employees.

source: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rutvik-borad-12409b19b_theabrcurseabrofabrcoprorate-activity-7199762667471839233-3wyR

The Curse of Corporate

I saw your post on LinkedIn yesterday and shared it with my friends and colleagues. In my previous organization, my manager faced a similar issue but didn't have the courage to speak out. I'm glad you addressed it, as it will surely encourage others to share their stories and raise awareness about such practices. Thank you for your bravery.

Data Scientist

Education

I am new in a team and got a story assigned to me on Thursday afternoon. It was Friday morning and my manager was almost forcing me for 5-6 times to send the update on the story to client. As I work on VDI and it's too too slow, I was unable to go through the story properly, so forcibly, I had to send incorrect updates to client, to which they asked questions to my manager. 
And suddenly my manager's Second face revealed, and he asked me in the group "why did you send this incorrect update? You should have asked someone in team first. " (while he didn't give me some time to check with someone in team and forced me in the standup call to send updates at that time) and I was shocked, how this man turned his face within minutes!!!! When I justified my point, he started taunting me in the group chat, started argument and almost blamed me and shared the whole discussion to his manager and acted innocent. 
How these managers are so ruthless and double faced??
I am feared he would not approve my 1 week leave, I am planning to take during Dussehra or would give bad rating.

Should I stay strong or apologize (even though I am not wrong )? 

Please suggest what should I do now???

Had argument with manager

Can missing standups even if u r constantly delivering items before deadline cause to be terminated?

Frontend Engineer

Hi 
Wanted an opinion on how do you all tackle the assignment bit when it comes to assignments as part of hiring processes. One, how regular or normal is it at senior positions ? And two, I feel that a lot of times they just ask you to do everything that is expected of the job. Eg: Create a marketing strategy after analyzing landscape and top 3 competitors. Add graphs etc.
I always have a concern of getting most out of you. Since its at round 1 they would be getting multiple such assignments, which means by design lpt of this work will be a waste and lots of inputs freely sourced.
How do you all handle it ? Can you push back ?
P.S: Am from business/ marketing aide of things and not sure of how it works for techies/ product.

Assignments as a part of interview process

Brand Marketing Manager

Hi, I am working in a early stage startup and our CEO has established the culture of transparency where he shares every update regarding company funding, customer sales, revenue and answers all questions within company but one thing that has been bugging me is his micromanaging. 


He has integrated a bot in slack which ask for what did you do yesterday ? and what are you going to do today ? , Everyday


He also managed a spreadsheet of our tasks and takes the exact estimate in days makes a calendar view there and keeps asking up to update on our tasks progress in multiple meetings or on chat. 


I didn't had such experience in prior companies but he mentioned, such things were being followed in NyKa, DineOut, etc as well 

Does the well known companies like Phonepe, Uber, Zomato, google, amazon, Microsoft, De shaw, sprinklr follow this as well ? 

I just wanna check, is he doing too much or it this a standard in Indian companies ? 

Thanks to all whoever reply to this post, please share your current & past experience.

My CEO is Micro Managing Engineers 😡

Sounds like a daily standup update just in written format. 
 Or am I missing something?

Rant 
I have this person who has been nominated as POC from New Zealand. I have been trying and chasing the person to schedule calls, and till now I have rescheduled 4 times because he is now showing up on the time slots HE communicated. Even though I adjusted my work schedules according to his time slots, given I start my work as per USA timing.
That's highly unprofessional. It goes like-
Me: Hey! Let me know what time suits you?
Him: my calendar is free from so and so. Please schedule 😃
On the day of call

Him: Hey can you reschedule to * absurd timings which don't suit IST* 
Or
Him: I'm unable to join, my calendar is blocked 

I'm so frustrated. I have messaged him ( in corporate speak) that I have already rescheduled so many times based on your schedule ( which you communicated) I would appreciate it if you show up. I am already working beyond my standard working hours for you.

Onshore employees have no time  respect for fellow Indians working in India

Why don't you do the same? Show you aren't someone to be stifled with? 
  
 Like say, hey, these are my working hours in whatever his local timezone time. I am most effective in this time. Let me know what works for you within this timeline so that we can effectively communicate and move things forward. 
  
 Remember, unless you take stand for yourself, no one else would. World is a selfish place to live in, and standing up for yourself is one of the most effective lessons you can learn.  
  
 If the person still suggests rescheduling, ask them to give a time within the slots you are free in. Before the call, 1/2 hour before, Just check in, if they would be joining

Consultant

Analyst

For context: Weekends are off. So just fri WFH. This is a Series B startup. I am not even asking for a leave but WFH for just 1 day. I joined recently. The only thing I did wrong was possibly informing a little too late.

Want to get opinion if I am overthinking or this classifies as toxic culture in startups where you are expected to push limits above and beyond regularly and sometimes weekends.

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Is this toxic work culture or I am overthinking

Not a great culture, also you don’t have to give the actual reason, instead say due to some unavoidable work or family health reason you will need to wfh. Its a good way of seeing what kind of employer one is, when they also treat urgencies like that. Indians feel they need to give a detailed explanation as to why they deserve wfh or leave, whereas in international companies, you just have to inform the manager.

Handling not wanting to over work

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